hey i know this thread is sorta dead.. i got a CAP X on ebay for $40! it's had a rough landing,, and needs some work, but can't beat it for the money..
i'm going to pick it up monday,, anyway,,,

do you guys think the MDS 2.18 will fly this puppy?? i don't wanna have to add weight, so i thougth maybe this will work, nearlya pound over the OS 160
Please let me know! there is one on ebay!

I have a Moki 2.10 in mine. You won't need all that power. You will enjoy it.

I got iit to balance by moving the battery aft.

I had a landing "mishap" too. I revamped the LG plate by making a larger one from 1/4 inch ply.

Chief is also advertising the Cap-X at $209 - but the picture on the ad is in the Alitalia trimscheme. Anyone know if this is a new scheme for the Cap-X or is Chief just using the wrong images?

I think I'm going to have to order me one regardless at $209, but the Alitalia scheme would be my preference.

thanks tom.. what kind of servos do you have in it? i'm thinking that i should use the metal geared hitecs,, cause i can prob. use the tail weight..
the whole thing will be heavy, but hopefully the MDS 2.18 has enough "kick" to make it work... did i mention the smoke system..??

roger

adrenalnjunky, any more info about the plane sold by Chief Aircraft titled as a Cap X? I ran into Chip Hyde at the Toledo Show (actually the ETOC) and he told me that he had a boat load of the Altia Caps. I am also aware that this Altia plane was built at the same chinese factory as the original Cap X but with silght differences. In one of RCU forms, maybe this one, there is a slight comparison between the two Caps.

One thing that is making me not call Chief Aircraft is the bad reputation I have heard about them. If you do purchase the plane from CHief, please let me know the condition of the plane?

Cheers
Hosam

The Cap on chief's look like the same plane with weight, hope the covering is much better than the red, white, purple coating which is on the cap I have.

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I know that Chief has gotten a bad rep by some, but I have dealt with them over the years with no problems other than sometimes slow shipping.

Chip Hyde's website even points buyers to Chief to order the planes that they are currently out of stock on.

looks like a false alarm - if you blow up the pic on Chief's site, I'm pretty sure I see a Hangar 9 sticker on the wheelpant, and there's a JR sticker on the rudder. Seems like Chief is using a pic of a H9 ARF.

Hi Roger I have Hitec 645 metal geared servos all aroung in mine, except the rudder. That's an old Futaba 132 oz.

I think your MDS will be more than ample power. I looked at them before deciding on the Moki.

I take my comments back - while it does seem they're using the H9 image for the ad - Chief replied to my email stating they have both trimschemes in stock (Alitalia and the Jagged/shattered). $35 shipping to my door in Louisiana. I'll be ordering an Alitalia tomorrow if my financial administrator (wife) clears it.

That Alitalia Cap has been around for a long time. It was once sold as the Extreme Aircraft CAP 232.
Back then if you even suggested that this CAP was the same as the Chip HydeCAP-X you'd get flamed. Now it has been resurrected as the Chip Hyde CAP-X ARF? Well whaddy ya know?

Back on 6/10/2005 I posted the following (Post #: 782 on page 32) in this thread:

"Can anyone direct me to a post that shows evidence that the Chip Hyde CAP -X and the Extreme Aircraft CAP 232 and not the same ARF kit?
There are those who keep saying they're not the same plane but all I can find are similarities.

It's understandable that if you got hooked for $379.00 for a CAP -X that you wouldn't want to believe that somebody else got the same plane under another name for only $249.99.

Just some observations:
1. Elevator servo openings too large in the fuselage of both planes.
2. Both have a 73" wing span even though the Cap -x is advertised as 74".
3. For both kits you have to purchase push rods, clevises, tail wheel assembly, main wheels, wheel axles, rudder pull-pull rigging.
4. Aluminum control horns in both kits.
5. Aluminum motor mounts with vibration isolators in both kits.
6. Extreme Aircraft CAP 232 current price $249.99, reduced from $299.95, reduced from $329.95 and offered in two color choices.
7. Chip Hyde CAP -X (also called a CAP 232 ) current price $299.00, reduced from
$329.00, reduced from $379.00. "

Oh, by the way, see the RCU Review of this plane, Extreme Aircraft CAP 232, Published in October 2004.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=422

There is also an old Extreme Aircraft cap 232 thread started on 4/24/2004 in RCU.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_17...tm.htm#1753793

Very Interesting.....Thats my Cap X......I dont see a difference. I paid under 300 for mine last spring. Minus the motor mount..

My opinion - CH had the factory tweak the Cap 232 they were producing to his satisfaction. Then over time the factory decided to just make them all to Cap X specs. Costs less to bouild a bunch of the planes one way than 2 ways

Adrenalnjunky, I would like to think that.... I thought it was strange that the wing span is 73" and not 74" as advertised. I wonder if the wing area (as advertised) is based on 74".... My combo seems to be working well with the Saito 220. It weighs in on the heavy side @ 12lb12oz, but, there is minimal if none, wing rock in elevators and harriers... In the end I really dont care this plane flys great and am having a great time with it so, whatever....EMVIN....

Emvin - mine is on the way - got the Alitalia scheme - I plan on putting my Brison 2.4 in it - hopefully can keep it under 13.5 lbs. Should be a missile, as the Brison is currently pulling a 15lb Yak around with authority.

I'm more into the IMAC style of flying than hardcore 3D, but I know the Cap-X is plenty capable.

adrenalnjunky, sounds good. You should have a great time doing the sequence style flying with this plane. I had to mix out rudder coupling when in knife edge as it tends to push / pull towards the belly. But, other than that no prob. It snap rolls ausome.

EMVIN

hey gang.. it's my first big bird, and i'm really excited!
and ebay find....for 41 bucks!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...6955&rd=1&rd=1

i read some posts in here that i can't find.. are you guys crossing the wires in your rudder pull pull setup?
it seems to make the geometry much better, but the wires will rub, and i'm affraid that can cause RF interferance...
do you cover them some how?
any input?

also, i know most of you are having to add weight with an OS 1.60 .. how much weight are we talking about?
i had my sights on a MDS 2.18, but found too good a deal on the OS...

i just ordered these cirrus servos,, check out the specs! and for $32! i hope they work out..anyone use them ever?

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/440704.asp

i did break down and get the $55 digital hitec for the rudder... had to splerge a little!

thanks for your time!

Yeah - the last Cap I owned was the 60" Hangar 9 Sport Cap -had a OS .61FX in it. Plane flew great - I'd buy another one if I could find one. I know Minicraft still makes the plane under their own name, but no US distributors.

The KE coupling is something I'll have to mix out, but every cap I've flown that had a relatively scale elevator line seems to do it. Figures I lost my 60" in KE flight - dumb thumbed it in when it rolled to the canopy more than expected.

How is this plane on landing? I had a CMP 73" giles 202 with a 26cc Brillelli in it - the stock carbon gear was prone to breaking, so I substituted Cap-X gear as did many others with that airframe. It weighed about 12.3 lbs and when it landed, it just stuck - rarely bouncing. I liked that, even on a hot landing, it just stuck, slowed down and rolled out nicely.

Twig,

That's a great find. That plane would take one evening for me to fix - I'd consider some aluminum angle inside the fuse to bolt the gear to. that's the second time I have seen a Cap-X with the same looking damage to the LG block - seems that the blind nuts like to pull through the light ply. I'll be reinforcing mine when it shows up.

I know nothing about those Cirrus servos - but as long as they hold together - looks like a good deal. Might want to research around here to see if anyone else has some input. If there are issues, someone will have talked about them.

Manual says run the wires straight, but run them however you think will work best for you.

Some say "tomato some say tomoto" I have guys in my club that insist the pull pull cables must be crossed and there are others that insist the opposite..I dont know what to think any more. I have tryed it both ways with the same result...No problem... I cant tell the difference. I have never experienced interference do to this. If your running the cables straight and they are rubbing on the fuse than cross them.. However if they are rubbing each other...............Confused Yet.....Good luck.... EMVIN....

Out have fun with the Cap yesterday. Had 3 flight and going on 4th. Well before I take off with the plane I like to run them up some. The way I do this is have 1 leg on get side of the plane. Well I broke my left ver. stab. I will be doing wel reparie this weekend. Lesson learn after about 150 flight on this plane. Won't be do that after I fix it up.

RE: Chip Hyde's Cap-X - Building & Flying - 1/26/2007 2:16:30 PM


patzane ,
Good thing it happened on the ground! Easy fix.

About two weeks ago I had mine out was flying having a good time and then....Deadstick....it landed right side up, hard, on the entry road to my field. The whole front end on into the fuse cracked off. As luck would have it the break points were where the fuse knotches together. so it took a little time to get everything back is place, but is probably stronger than ever. There's a plus for the aluminum landing gear. No damage, fiberglass or carbon fiber would have shattered on this one.

....EMVIN....

Emvin glad to hear you have it back togther. I will be starting on mine tonight.