Dave Patrick 27% edge do you like...
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I was just wondering what kinda luck other's was having with there DP 27% edge's.
Mine has 46 flights on it now and after alot of tuning and trimming on the plane it fly's OK. but the main gripe i have is the construction of the plane. I'am constantly glueing this thing back together!! The fire wall came unglued and literally fell out. The side of the fuse come unglued. [:'(]
Not to mention the "Edge" is suppost to be great on knife edge but i have had to mix elevator to rudder and airleron to rudder to get it to knife edge properly. I really hate that they cut the airlerons short so you cant keep it from torque rolling. Not that i dont want to be able to torque roll but sometimes i just like to hover without torque rolling.
Anyway i was just wondering what kinda luck others was having with this plane or if it is just me.
I have a ZDZ 50 on mine. Any input would be good. Thanks
Chad
Mine has 46 flights on it now and after alot of tuning and trimming on the plane it fly's OK. but the main gripe i have is the construction of the plane. I'am constantly glueing this thing back together!! The fire wall came unglued and literally fell out. The side of the fuse come unglued. [:'(]
Not to mention the "Edge" is suppost to be great on knife edge but i have had to mix elevator to rudder and airleron to rudder to get it to knife edge properly. I really hate that they cut the airlerons short so you cant keep it from torque rolling. Not that i dont want to be able to torque roll but sometimes i just like to hover without torque rolling.
Anyway i was just wondering what kinda luck others was having with this plane or if it is just me.
I have a ZDZ 50 on mine. Any input would be good. Thanks
Chad
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I have one out of DP's first shipment. After all of the bugs were worked out in assembly and I fixed the balance issues, it has been a GREAT flying plane with my Brison 2.4. I too had to reglue part of the hatch and about a month ago landed the plane only to find the spinner about 1-1/4" down and to the right. When I shut down and removed the cowl, I found that the top and bottom of the engine box had come unglued which allowed the sides to come unglued and spread apart and the firewall came loose. The engine was only being supported by the cowl! Don't ask me how I got it on the ground--on final it was all squirrely which was unlike the usual behavior of the plane, and luckily I didn't have to go around! I've since repaired the firewall and have some BVM carbon fiber angle braces reinforcing the thrust box. The firewall has been pinned and some additional triangle stock added as well. Surprisingly, the balance was barely affected by the mods. Other than this, I have LOVED the plane and plan on flying it until it REALLY comes apart!
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Thanks for the replies , overall the plane is just ok in my book , it is a little on the heavy side though. Wing rock in harrier is a little scary at times. If it was about 3lbs lighter it would be an awsome plane!!!
Chad
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Man, I don't think you could make a similar plane any lighter. I've got single aileron wings, the pull-pull tail, 2 1400 mAh servo NiCads, a 600 mAh receiver NiCad (EMS Jomar Optical Isolator), a Brison 2.4 w/ a 1200 mAh ignition battery, and when I put it on the scale it last weighed 14.9 lbs. The wing loading is so darn low that the plane just does not want to land. Weight might be an issue with the larger 50cc engines, but with a light motor like the Brison, the plane stays nice and light and has MORE than enough power! I've noticed the design has some stability issues in certain maneuvers, but I still would argue that there are very few if any that can match its all around performance for the size, price, and quality.
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rongreg13, look familiar? My firewall along with my ZDZ 50 broke loose on a deadstick when I was dialing in the ZDZ. I started out with a Moki 2.10 but that engine was touchey, it would run great one day and like crap the next. I like the ZDZ 50 a lot better. I too have had problems with the fuse coming unglued at the sides where the landing gear block meet the fuse sides and my fire wall broke loose on a dead stick.
I reinforced the corners of the engine box with hardwood and fiberglass. The only part I didn't reinforce was the actual firewall because it is notched into the sides of the engine box, I thought it was pretty sturdy but I was wrong it also has been reinforced now. Two dead sticks and two sets of carbon fiber gear broken so I went back to the stock gear no problems.
I agree it doesn't knife edge very well. Mine has four 625MG servos on the ailerons and all gaps sealed top and bottom with ultracote. No signs of flutter at all. I could probably get away with only two aileron servos but I am not brave enough to try. Mine came in at 15 pounds without the Sullivan Smoke System that it now has. I have been flying this plane since October 2003 and has over 100 flights I would say. Overall I like it a lot.
I reinforced the corners of the engine box with hardwood and fiberglass. The only part I didn't reinforce was the actual firewall because it is notched into the sides of the engine box, I thought it was pretty sturdy but I was wrong it also has been reinforced now. Two dead sticks and two sets of carbon fiber gear broken so I went back to the stock gear no problems.
I agree it doesn't knife edge very well. Mine has four 625MG servos on the ailerons and all gaps sealed top and bottom with ultracote. No signs of flutter at all. I could probably get away with only two aileron servos but I am not brave enough to try. Mine came in at 15 pounds without the Sullivan Smoke System that it now has. I have been flying this plane since October 2003 and has over 100 flights I would say. Overall I like it a lot.
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That firewall seems to be a common issue! I haven't had any problems with mine since I patched everything up. I also have never had any flutter issues with mine, although I keep my speeds down by actually using the throttle every once in a while unlike a lot of people I've seen flying these planes! I use single aileron servos on mine. They are Futaba coreless digital 9252's that are putting out around 120 oz-in. or so at a regulated 6V. I use 4-40 connections with ball links to help stiffen things up as well and this combo has been problem and flutter-free so far.



