Engine will be a YS 110...mounted on it's side with a Pitts slimline muffler...

I thought about washers...but after tightening the mount...and given the vibration...I would think the washers would just "Sink" into the Wood of the firewall....

It would be much better to spread the load over a larger area...to insure the mount doesn't work loose over time.

also..you say use a washer...but what size washer...how thick????

What about adding down thrust as well as right thrust??

That thing is going to be wicked with a ys 110!(BEEF THAT FIREWALL GOOD) I would definately put the 2 degrees to the right to help compensate for all that rotational torque you are going to have. I had a Saito 1.00 on mine with 1 degree right and 1 degree down which is equivelant to 1/16" washer. Since you are wanting 2 degrees to the right you could go with larger diameter 1/8" washers if you are worried about them sinking into the firewall. The smaller 1/16" washers on the back two mounting holes of the engine should be sufficient to get your 1 degree down. 1 degree down is plenty in my opinion, but you will want to make sure you have some down, and that will help in landings as the Plane tends to be a bit of a floater!

Ahhh...you say Beef up the firewall...

I have the epoxy and cloth..but thought the firewall was plenty srong without reinforcing it!

Have there been problems with the firewalls???

So..If I read this correctly....and since my engine will be side mounted.......

If your looking at the front of the plane....starting at the 2 O'clock position

2 O'clock position (1) 1/8" flat washer + (1) #6 Flat washer.
4 O'clock Position (1) 1/8" flat washer
7 O'clock position No washers
11 O'clock position (1) # 6 flat washer



Is this correct????

Are the washer sizes (thickness) correct??

Larry

The only reason I say beef up the firewall is that usually the engine of choice for this Plane has been a 91-100 4 stroke, and the occasional 120 4 stroke. I have not read where to many have used the YS 110. I would compare the ys 110 more towards the 1.20 and maybe even a bit more powered. I always remember VectorFlight suggesting that you should reinforce the firewall if you were going to use a 1.20 size four stroke. Since the YS engines are well known to be extremely powerfull, it might not be a bad idea to add a little reinforcement just to be safe. Don't want that high dollar YS engine falling off the front in flight!

Larry wrote
your looking at the front of the plane....starting at the 2 O'clock position

2 O'clock position (1) 1/8" flat washer + (1) #6 Flat washer.
4 O'clock Position (1) 1/8" flat washer
7 O'clock position No washers
11 O'clock position (1) # 6 flat washer

That sounds about right Larry!

Ok...Will do....

Looks like another pilgrimage to the hobby store!!!!

Larry

Can you say "LIGHTNING FAST VF EDGE-540" ? Man it's going to scream !!
The firewall is very strong. But as ckangaroo70 suggested ,,, beef up for the power. To save weight I'd just go for the tri-stock and some 30-min epoxy. The cloth makes it heavy.

Don't forget to seal the surface gaps and add the extra hinge to the ailerons. It's a fast plane for an Edge540.

im with sturtz on sealing the gaps, probably the most positive flying change i made, a big difference
and fast it is

Hinges were factory installed...4 per wing...so there isn't much I can do there....

As for sealing the gaps....I've read the clear shipping tape way..but it seems kinda Rinky Dink...

What Other more "Finished" options are open to me???...

Also on a top slotted aileron..exactly HOW does one seal the bottom gap?? ????


Again...this bird has lots of firsts for me...and sealing the gaps is another...

I can see she will be fast..Nice clean lines...and the YS 110....

It's all good...I like speed....


I was also wondering...I am going to use 3" Lite Foam Dave Brown Wheels...so the stock wheel pants gotta go....
What about Spats rather than Pants.......

I always liked the looks of a set of Spats.....



Larry

On my Extra 300 (VF), I used a strip of white sign vinyl on the underside. I reflexed the aileron all the way up and placed the sticky-backed material right into the space. I used a piece about 1" wide and the full length of the aileron - bottom side only. It doesn't show at all and doesn't inhibit movement to any noticeable extent. Remember that you do not need a lot of aileron throw for this bird. (The Extra and the Edge are quite similar in terms of performance.) The clear packing tape will work as well but is not as tidy.

Ross

Larry,

There are [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXE953&P=7]thrust plates [/link] made by Ernst. They make them according to the size of the engine/mount. Tower, yeah I said the dirty word, sells them for less then $3 each.

I have used the screw method myself and it works fine. But if you are having some reserve about them pressing into the wood I would suggest the thrust plates.

You can seal the gaps by using some low temp Monokote (Towerkote/Econokote), but DO NOT USE AN IRON! You can activate the adhesive on the back by using Monokote Trim Solvent if your Hobby Shop happens to carry some. As mentioned above, sticky back vinyl sign material would be the simplest.

Ok...so only seal the bottom...Check.....

I can get the white vinyl no prob....



Can I take a Min of your time and say that I really appreciate that you all are so willing to share on a thread that has been dead for so long....

I know VF is gone..(For Now)....and I hope they do come back....

I bought this plane last fall....when I fanally had to say goodbye to my H9 Miss America.....

See...ever since I got that plane (Miss A) we NEVER saw eye to eye it seams...

I wanted her to come down in one piece...and she would rather have a temper tantrum on the runway!!!!

She gave me a severe case of "Crash Fever"...and I thought I was DONE with this hobby....

I'd leave the house with a BEAUTIFUL PLANE...and come home with TOOTHPICKS.....

I got sick of the old fly,break ,repair.....

I bought the Edge because everyone seemed to agree that she was a tank.....

I ordered her..and Waited..and waited.....

finally..I got her..only to hear that VF was shutting down....

So now I have a new bird..a crash fobia..and no way to get replacement parts....that all adds up to trouble!

I would avoid going into the shop..just so I wouldn't have to look at the bird sitting on a card table waiting to be built...

Recently, and it must be the warmer weather, I started to read my RC magazines again...and the thought of hitting the field felt good again!


I think I'm geting my Passion for the hobby back.....and since this plane is just waiting to hit the wild blue yonder...I knew I would need some help here on RCU!


So..let me say thanks to everyone that has helped me....and a BIG thanks to STURTZ...who has sent me so many e-mails helping me thusfar!

You guys are great...and I hope to repay each and everyone of you for your attention!

Larry

I know that Sturtz, myself, and many others on here have been talking about VectorFlight Edges pretty much since this thread began some 1500 post ago. So I think it is obvious that we really do enjoy the VF Planes, and enjoy talking about them as well. I for one am just happy to see yet another VectorFlight Edge going together even though the Company has been closed for a few months. Its a sad thought to think that someday there will be no more left for anyone to assemble, and thus I wouldn't be able to share my 2 cents as much on the matter. So I am glad that you appreciate the tips, but I think there are those like myself, and Sturtz who probally benefit from it more. I have more Planes than I can count on my fingers from various manufacturers, but the VectorFlight Planes are always my favorite to talk about even though I lost mine in a Trade, and never got another one ordered before they closed. I will always kick myself in the ***** for Trading mine off, and not getting one ordered to replace it before they closed!

We just want you to get that Edge done and get to flying soon. More maiden flight reports and another happy customer .
I will admit again,,,, that I do tend to keep my VF Edge in the hanger a bit more than I would like. But I too would hate to lose it forever. Now that I really know what this plane is built for and have gone the extra mile reducing weight and changing to a more RPM type engine I'm very happy with mine.
And it is built like a tank. I doubt seriously if a small landing mistake will even matter now that you got those Dubro nylon landing gear.
Unless you land upside down.

EDIT: Don't forget to reinforce the landing gear block at least with some 1/4" ply.

Yea...umm landing gear
My stock ones are pretty hosed as of yesterday. Nice cross wind one wheel landing, wind got under the wing and there go the gear. Nice bend in them - 2nd time its happened.
I didn't really want to change around the weight, etc. so I've held off on it. It balanced perfectly with no weight at all.

The Dubro 40-60 size fiberglass gear? Anyone know if someone makes CF gear to fit the plane?

I use the GraphTech CF gear Shakes. What is the horizontal measurement of the gear platform again ?

I have no idea but I would LOVE to have Graphtec gear for this plane - have it on my big Yak and love the looks of it.

Looks like a fit right here. Went out and measured my Edge. Good ground clearance with a 15 to 16" prop.

#127 Hangar 9 Funtana .46

4-1/2" / 5-3/4" Axle / 12-3/4" / 1-1/4" to 1" / 2.5 oz.
#127 $24.95

[link=http://www.graphtechrc.com/Secure/mall/maingear.asp]Graph Tech[/link]

Thanks!!!!!!!! Ordering tonight

Here's another close match if not perfect. But the Funtana gear has a wider spread.

#227 Precision Aerobatics Katana Mini

4-1/4" / 5" Axle / 10-1/4" Spread / 1" to 1/2" Much stronger than stock.
#227 $19.95

I odered the funtana gear from Troybuilt Models, they carry the Graphtec gear and have been great everytime I've dealt with them.
I really appreciate the help.

You'll be soakin it up now Shakes !!!

Oh ,, almost forgot Larry. Here's a couple of real photos of the Zivko's panel if you want to make yourself a nice cockpit with exact scale intruments.
I can also send them to you in a larger file format like .PSP , Photoshop or .BMP.

Here's another from one of the gang. Can't remember who. Speak up who !!

I think that dash photo was actually one that somebody sent to VectorFlight many moons ago when the VF Edge had first been introduced. It was pictured on the VectorFlight Site for a very long time, and may not have belonged to anyone who normally post here. I may be mistaken though, or thinking of another photo.