Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
03-20-2007 | 07:17 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
I contacted Futaba today and they confirmed the MSA-10 will work with any servo. So it's on it's way to the house. Hopefully, this will solve the issue. Until then, I'll press on with the assembly!
03-21-2007 | 09:55 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
I have a question for the guys that are using the TH-.75. Did you guys try to take out weight out of the plane? Or did you install everything like the manual says including the decals? Also what Prop are you using, and what material? Wood? Plastic? I was hoping to turn a 15X6 but I am looking at the post and the biggest is 14X4W I have a giles 202 now and I am turning a 14X6 and I am overpower. What do you guys think?
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03-21-2007 | 10:23 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Try a few props, but honestly I think the 15" prop is too much for that motor, unless it's a 4 pitch, which wouldn't be a bad idea. You need this plane to pull hard but not fly fast, so I suggest sticking to a pitch of 4 or 6. Unless that is you want your plane to flutter apart in mid air, lol.. The surfaces on this plane are huge, and not meant to fly fast. Not sure what you mean by "over powering" on the Giles. Does that mean too fast?
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I have a question for the guys that are using the TH-.75. Did you guys try to take out weight out of the plane? Or did you install everything like the manual says including the decals? Also what Prop are you using, and what material? Wood? Plastic? I was hoping to turn a 15X6 but I am looking at the post and the biggest is 14X4W I have a giles 202 now and I am turning a 14X6 and I am overpower. What do you guys think?
Thank you
I have a question for the guys that are using the TH-.75. Did you guys try to take out weight out of the plane? Or did you install everything like the manual says including the decals? Also what Prop are you using, and what material? Wood? Plastic? I was hoping to turn a 15X6 but I am looking at the post and the biggest is 14X4W I have a giles 202 now and I am turning a 14X6 and I am overpower. What do you guys think?
Thank you
03-21-2007 | 11:34 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Yes I meant too fast. I had a 13X5 on the giles and it would flutter a lot. So I went to the 14X6 and it is better. But I think I can do a 15X4 or 15X6 and I will have enough power to do 3d and everything. I will try it and let you guys know.
03-22-2007 | 08:25 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Ok Here are the final numbers for my extra. With everything on it but the decals and the blue things on the side of the landing gear, the plane weights 7Lbs 5oz. I am almost sure that my giles weights more than that with everything on it, and the TH .75 with the 14X6 on it gives me a lot more power than what the plane can handle. I am thinking about doing the maiden flight today but there is going to be 25 MPH winds and it may be a cross wind. I am going to the field anyways and if the wind is in line with the runway I will fly it. so wish me luck. I know I will have no problems while I am up in the air but when it is time to land that is a diferent story. I will let you guys know tomorrow.
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03-22-2007 | 10:57 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
It is very unlikely the .75 is going to give you 3D capabilities on that plane with that weight. It may give you mild aerobatic's, but not extreme 3D. People think just because a plane can hover, that it has 3D abilities, no it doesn't quite work like that.
03-22-2007 | 08:42 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
What's the best way to apply the decals to this model. I've heard soap and water, peel backing, position, squeege excess, blot dry and wait 24-48 hours? Is this good?
03-22-2007 | 10:05 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
You could also give a light misting of windex to the model and then apply the decal, squeegy and let dry (about 2 hours). I just squeegy with a paper towel wetted with windex.
03-23-2007 | 08:04 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Hello my good flyer friends. I have done the maiden flight and I have to tell you that the engine has enough power to do everything. May be not to do it 3 feet from the ground but it can do hover fine. I am running it with a wood 14X6. Now I know that the engine is not giving me all the rpms that it can so my questions are:1- If I lower the pitch on the 14X6 to the 14X4 will I get more rpms? 2- Should I go with a plastic prop? does it matter while in flight? what are the main diferences? 3- what do you think that will happen to the rpms if I go with a 13X6?
Again thank you in advanced for the help.
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Again thank you in advanced for the help.
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03-23-2007 | 09:09 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Where did you exit the anntenna from the fuse? Instructions say just drill through the side and route it out that way. I was wondering if anyone routed it inside the fuse.
03-23-2007 | 02:03 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Try the APC 14x4w. It should give you another 600-1000 RPM (if not more). Static thrust might should be a bit better.
ORIGINAL: ccameselle
Hello my good flyer friends. I have done the maiden flight and I have to tell you that the engine has enough power to do everything. May be not to do it 3 feet from the ground but it can do hover fine. I am running it with a wood 14X6. Now I know that the engine is not giving me all the rpms that it can so my questions are:1- If I lower the pitch on the 14X6 to the 14X4 will I get more rpms? 2- Should I go with a plastic prop? does it matter while in flight? what are the main diferences? 3- what do you think that will happen to the rpms if I go with a 13X6?
Again thank you in advanced for the help.
cc
Hello my good flyer friends. I have done the maiden flight and I have to tell you that the engine has enough power to do everything. May be not to do it 3 feet from the ground but it can do hover fine. I am running it with a wood 14X6. Now I know that the engine is not giving me all the rpms that it can so my questions are:1- If I lower the pitch on the 14X6 to the 14X4 will I get more rpms? 2- Should I go with a plastic prop? does it matter while in flight? what are the main diferences? 3- what do you think that will happen to the rpms if I go with a 13X6?
Again thank you in advanced for the help.
cc
03-24-2007 | 12:21 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Sooo what's the verdict on this plane from those of you who own one or have seen one fly? How is 3d if the plane is kept light? IMAC? Build quality?
03-26-2007 | 09:16 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Well I have to tell you that this Saturday the rain and the wind were at its worst in my airfield. Me and my friends were waiting for the rain to stop and see if we could fly. Then Eddy "magic fingers Ed" got there. Eddy is one of the guys in the club that will fly anything. And that you can give him your plane and be relax because you know that he is not going to crash it. The rain stoped but the wind was really bad. So I told Eddy to take my plane up and to tell me what I could do to the plane to make it better. This guy flu for about 6 minutes but he did every possible manuver in those 6 minutes. And he did it with and amazing precision. The plane was already a keeper in my book but after seeing this guy fly it and tell me that it was a great plane now it is a keeper more than ever. 
03-26-2007 | 12:40 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Hmm nice. I think this will be my next plane then, and maybe get a Saito 1.25 to put into it.
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Well I have to tell you that this Saturday the rain and the wind were at its worst in my airfield. Me and my friends were waiting for the rain to stop and see if we could fly. Then Eddy "magic fingers Ed" got there. Eddy is one of the guys in the club that will fly anything. And that you can give him your plane and be relax because you know that he is not going to crash it. The rain stoped but the wind was really bad. So I told Eddy to take my plane up and to tell me what I could do to the plane to make it better. This guy flu for about 6 minutes but he did every possible manuver in those 6 minutes. And he did it with and amazing precision. The plane was already a keeper in my book but after seeing this guy fly it and tell me that it was a great plane now it is a keeper more than ever.
Well I have to tell you that this Saturday the rain and the wind were at its worst in my airfield. Me and my friends were waiting for the rain to stop and see if we could fly. Then Eddy "magic fingers Ed" got there. Eddy is one of the guys in the club that will fly anything. And that you can give him your plane and be relax because you know that he is not going to crash it. The rain stoped but the wind was really bad. So I told Eddy to take my plane up and to tell me what I could do to the plane to make it better. This guy flu for about 6 minutes but he did every possible manuver in those 6 minutes. And he did it with and amazing precision. The plane was already a keeper in my book but after seeing this guy fly it and tell me that it was a great plane now it is a keeper more than ever.
03-28-2007 | 09:34 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
I'm wondering about the placement of the fuel tank. I have a Magnum .91 for power and I replaced the stock tank w/ a 14oz dubro. I mounted the tank right next to the firewall. I just noticed a post that said to mount the tank as far aft as possible. Looks like I there is room to move it back about an inch. Should I do this? Would this potentially create issues with fuel getting to the engine? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks,
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03-29-2007 | 08:34 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
I have the stock gas tank. I have it installed flushed with the walls of the little tunel where you set it up. So it is about 2 to 3 inches back from the firewall. It works fine and it gives me about 12 min flytime in my TH.75.
03-29-2007 | 08:36 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Hi everyone:
How good is this plane doing 3d ?
I been reading that some have used the Th .75 and that it hovers.. but i think it would need a bit more oomph, which engines do you recommend or have used?
What about the GMS 1.20 BB, if anyone has used it. How good or bad is it?
How good is this plane doing 3d ?
I been reading that some have used the Th .75 and that it hovers.. but i think it would need a bit more oomph, which engines do you recommend or have used?
What about the GMS 1.20 BB, if anyone has used it. How good or bad is it?
03-30-2007 | 07:18 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
I would imagine the GMS to perform a lot like an OS 1.2 like one of the original guys to post back on page 1 or 2. Should have great vertical, but you will have to move weight around. I have a Tower .75 and I had to move my batterties to the back of the canopy in order to balance. According to RCU the GMS weighs about 10 oz. more than the Tower .75 so I would be ready to make some mods like a rear hatch for your battery so that you won't have to add any real weight such as lead.
03-30-2007 | 01:57 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Oh okay so got to balance the plane considering that, no problem with that.
But how good is that GMS 1.20 engine? Has anyone used it? Is it reliable?
But how good is that GMS 1.20 engine? Has anyone used it? Is it reliable?
03-31-2007 | 04:41 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Don't know about the 1.2 but I have a GMS 0.47 and it's great. Runs smooth w/ good power. I'd buy another GMS in a second.
On another note I've been reading that the Phoenix Extra is sensitive to snapping with too much elevator. Would it be wise to set up less throw than the recommended 35mm? I'm still trying to make sure I have everything just right before taking it up.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Gabe
On another note I've been reading that the Phoenix Extra is sensitive to snapping with too much elevator. Would it be wise to set up less throw than the recommended 35mm? I'm still trying to make sure I have everything just right before taking it up.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Gabe
04-01-2007 | 08:35 AM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
WooHoo! The maiden flight is complete and most successful! I have a Super Tigre G90 in the nose, Futaba S3003 on throttle, Futaba S3010 high torque servo on rudder, S3004 on each aileron, Hobbico Digital CS-140's on each elevator half, a Futaba MSA-10 servo synchronizer on the elevator servos, standard 4.8 volt battery pack and standard FP-R127DF reciever. With no fuel, the aircraft weighs in at 7lbs 8oz.
It left the ground after a 30' take off roll, needed a few clicks right and a couple clicks down to fly straight and level. I flew most of the maiden with the throttle at 1/4 and it was plenty for your basic loops, rolls, etc. It's very stable and responsive! Not to mention it will float nicely for a landing. I'm very happy with the plane! And you just can't beat the price!
It left the ground after a 30' take off roll, needed a few clicks right and a couple clicks down to fly straight and level. I flew most of the maiden with the throttle at 1/4 and it was plenty for your basic loops, rolls, etc. It's very stable and responsive! Not to mention it will float nicely for a landing. I'm very happy with the plane! And you just can't beat the price!
04-01-2007 | 01:57 PM
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Great pictures!
ORIGINAL: jbloom
WooHoo! The maiden flight is complete and most successful! I have a Super Tigre G90 in the nose, Futaba S3003 on throttle, Futaba S3010 high torque servo on rudder, S3004 on each aileron, Hobbico Digital CS-140's on each elevator half, a Futaba MSA-10 servo synchronizer on the elevator servos, standard 4.8 volt battery pack and standard FP-R127DF reciever. With no fuel, the aircraft weighs in at 7lbs 8oz.
It left the ground after a 30' take off roll, needed a few clicks right and a couple clicks down to fly straight and level. I flew most of the maiden with the throttle at 1/4 and it was plenty for your basic loops, rolls, etc. It's very stable and responsive! Not to mention it will float nicely for a landing. I'm very happy with the plane! And you just can't beat the price!
WooHoo! The maiden flight is complete and most successful! I have a Super Tigre G90 in the nose, Futaba S3003 on throttle, Futaba S3010 high torque servo on rudder, S3004 on each aileron, Hobbico Digital CS-140's on each elevator half, a Futaba MSA-10 servo synchronizer on the elevator servos, standard 4.8 volt battery pack and standard FP-R127DF reciever. With no fuel, the aircraft weighs in at 7lbs 8oz.
It left the ground after a 30' take off roll, needed a few clicks right and a couple clicks down to fly straight and level. I flew most of the maiden with the throttle at 1/4 and it was plenty for your basic loops, rolls, etc. It's very stable and responsive! Not to mention it will float nicely for a landing. I'm very happy with the plane! And you just can't beat the price!
