edygert,
I've already posted in your other thread, but I'll say thank you again here too. If there is anything I can do to help please let me know what I can do for you.

Ken

Hi guys! I m quiet new to covering and would like to ask you a simple question if i can : ). Soo...when you cover a whole wing then is it better to cover it only with two pieces of covering one on top and one in the bottom or can you use more pieces???Or will there be lots of seams left. I mean covering only with one colour. THX

Patryk

If you are only using a single cover, then cover each wing half in 2 pieces. Start with the bottom first. Then apply the top piece, allowing the leading edge to wrap all thw way over the curve of the leading edge. There should be no exposed "raw" edges facing the front of the plane. I'm sure Ken will illustrate this thoroughly when he gets to the covering.

This will vary with some models but typically I cover the bottom of one wing and then the top. Then I cover the other bottom and then it's top side. Therefore 4 pieces would be used. If you have multiple dihedral breaks (polyhedral), like on many gliders, there would be more pieces.
An alternative is to do both bottoms and then both tops.
You may also want to do the tips first, depending upon their shape.
Many variables and just need to study/plan a little before jumping in.
There are also times when you do the center section first and then the outer wings.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3746641 and later may help.

I will first have to start from the leading edges first as i think it will be easier becouse they are round. And by the way im building the puppeteer mk2 kit so the model has quiet a large wings so maybe i will use more than two pieces of covering. Anyway ill see in the future what
rc ken will offer us in his very good lessons.THX

Patrykl

Ok, I'm going to do something here that is a little bit out of character for me. No, I'm going to do something that is WAY out of character for me. I'm going to use this thread as a place to climb on my soapbox and blow off a little steam. And since it relates directly to this build thread I won't feel bad about doing it here.

I HATE HEWLETT PACKARD

Before I say way let me tell you a bit of my history. My wife and I own and run a computer shop. No fancy terms for it, it's a local computer shop and we've been doing this for 10 years now. I do a lot of network consulting for businesses in town and my wife handles all the of the personal computers that people bring in the front door. So we have the perfect background for me to say this, we've been watching first hand how HP equipment has been changing over the last few years. In the 6 months or so we've been noticing how much useless software gets loaded on a computer when a HP printer is installed, and this bothered us too. But tonight was the final straw.

I have a HP 7660 photosmart printer. One of the features of the printer is that it has card slots in it so you can use the printer to download pictures off of the card from a digital camera. Normally I will just plug a USB cable in the camera when I want to download it, but I've found that when there are a lot of pictures on the card the camera will actually power down (battery saving feature) before I get all the pictures downloaded. When I have a lot of pictures I will put the card in the printer and download them from there. So I put the card in the printer, get an error. Remove the card and make sure the contacts are clean and make sure there is nothing in the printer slot, all good. Put the card back in, same error. Ok, consult HP.com. Standard answer, reload the software. So I reload the drivers. Put the card back in, same error. One last try, I lift the end of the card up while I slide it in to make sure it makes good contact with the metal contacts. Bingo, it sees the card. I start to transfer the pictures to my computer. Errors out. I pull the card out and put it back in the same way, still can't see it. So I say screw this, I'll just do it in the camera but transfer a little bit of the pictures at a time. I put the card in the camera and the camera tells me that the card needs formatting because it's not format. WHAT???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! I double check it. Yep, the card is empty. Gone. Over 200 pictures from this build thread!!!!!!! Gone. And they are going to be hard to duplicate because they were taken while the work was being done.

So one more time to make myself feel better

I HATE HEWLETT PACKARD

Aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, so now that I've said that I can move on. I'll have to see what the real damage is and what I can redo for this build thread. I will apologize if there are parts and pictures not as well documented as they could be. I'll do the best I can to recover from this.

Thanks for listening

Ken

Crap, sorry to hear about that! I had the same thing happen with a video,,,,luckily my son was running another cam and got the shots as well.

Luckily, you have posted most of the pics on here, so If someone were to go back through the whole thread and right click and save as, onto a seperate folder("RCKens Rescued Pics"?) that would be cool.

Sooner,
I wish it were that easy. These were pictures that had been taken but had not been processed for posting here in this thread. The way I do it is I take the picture, transfer it to my PC, prepare it for posting (I have to reduce the size of the picture to post it here on RCU), and then move it into a folder that I hold them in until I can get that step written up in the thread here.

Ken

Two words, Card Reader. Something like 20 bucks at the local Wallzmarts and worth every penny. Honestly the only printer I will even consider buying now is a lazer equipped with.....NO ADDITIONAL FEATURES. Here at work we pretty much use Lexmark products now while the b&w lazers work great their color lazers suck, and don't even get me started on the inkjets. [:'(]

Cannon Fodder,
I've been thinking of getting a card reader, but since the printer did the same thing I held off. Big mistake obviously. But you can bet that I'll have one this afternoon.

Ken

MAJOR BUMMER!!
That's part of the reason I don't even bother loading the drivers for the HP card readers. Not only are they unreliable, they are PAINFULLY SLOW! (at least on my 7350) Now the USB connection on my Sony digi-cam isn't exactly lightning, but it is reliable. I also occasionally have similar problems with digital media in handheld devices. The bottom line is if it's important, back it up immediately.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=2470623

That is what I bought when I got my cheap Canon. I haven't had any problems with it reading CF, which the Canon uses, or SM which an old 1.0mp Olympus I borrowed from work used. I wouldn't format the card just yet, the card reader my be able to read some of the pictures off of it.

That is very good advice. Try any and all available devices to read the card before writing it off as a lost cause.

I'm planning on doing exactly that. I've got the card out and set aside until I get the card reader. Fingers crossed hoping it can recover them. We'll see what happen.

Ken

There is a way to get around the timeout problem but it requires spending a few bucks. Buy a multi-format card reader that connects to the USB port on your computer. Take the card out of the camera and put it in the reader. The reader just looks like a disk drive to windows and you just do regular file copies to move the images to your hard disk. I use a Sandisk ImageMate 12 in 1 which reads most kinds of cards. It works great and no timeouts! It is currently about $35 at Staples. I am a software developer (consultant) so I have to be able to read almost anything.

So any luck Ken?

Cannon Fodder,
Thanks for asking. I was planning on posting a little later this morning my progress. I purchased a card reader but still couldn't access the pictures on the card. I called the data recovery firm that I send all my clients to when they have hard drives crash and they referred me to a product called Photo Rescue. [link=http://www.datarescue.com]www.datarescue.com[/link] . It cost me $29 and was a wonder. It didn't' get all of the pictures back, but it did recover about 3/4 of them so it was worth every penny to me. I can do a work around on the pictures that were lost. I'm still not happy with HP, but at least I recovered from the disaster!!!

Ken

Glad to hear that RCKen, looking forward for your update

Thank You Ken and others for the excellent post and wonderful cause this is! I just finished reading all 17 pages and it has been worth every minute! I received this kit as a X-Mas gift and this post will help tremendously... This is my first R/C airplane and I am working on the fuselage now- thanks again for everything you are doing.. Kirk

Ken,
Its looking great My girls love the color!!!
Thanks Jim

In case you guys are wondering, Ken is behind on his typing and actually has most of the covering done. He has sent seabee1 still photos of the plane to view. A few of us have had the pleasure of seeing the work. Real pretty. You'll love it when he gets it posted. Worth the wait.

I got those also Bruce. For everyone else, next time you see a post from Ken, make sure you have sunglasses nearby. He may have posted pics and trust me IT"S BRIGHT

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Ok, Bubbagates and Bruce spilled the beans about where I am in the build. I hope to get back to posting before too long. But here is a small preview of what they were talking about with the color. As Bubbagates said, put on your sunglasses because this plane is BRIGHT!!!!!!

Here's a couple of pics to tide everybody through.

Ken

Did you loose all the pictures for the stab setup?

No, the only pics I lost were those of the sanding process.

Ken