Seeing how i am just about to finish my LT-40 build I am looking for the next build as a second plane how does the TF Cessna 182 stack up would this make a good second plane?

"I MUST HAVE THE FEVER Since I haven't even flown the LT-40 yet!!!!!!! I see no cure, Just LOTS of Treatments ---- AKA buying more planes


GOT WAR-BIRDS ON MY MIND

I would not suggest a SCALE plane until your 3rd (4th is better ) plane. Most newcomers normally go to a low wing taildragger for a second plane.

There are several good ones out there - 4 star, Tiger II, World Models Rambler (ARF only ). Any of those planes will take you to the next level of flying (basic aerobatics and taildraggers ). These are a "Point and Go" type plane. They are not as forgiving as a trainer, but not so advanced that you will be overwhelmed trying to handle them.

IMO the TF Cessna 182 would be a fine second plane provided you do well with your trainer and spend enough time with it.
I do want to ask, why another high wing trike plane if you have "WARBIRDS ON YOUR MIND" ?
I would want to work my way toward low wing tail draggers.

I've got to agree with Campy here, for more than one reason. There are actually 2 reasons why you want to wait for the Top Flight Cessna. First is flying. Even though it's got a high wing it doesn't fly like a trainer does. It's going to take some skills to stay on top of it and keep it from being re-kitted. Also, this plane isn't designed to take rough handling like a trainer is. Rough landing can and will do a lot of damage to a plane like this. The second reason is building. Your LT-40 was designed to be built by a beginner. It is designed to be an easy and straight forward build. The Top Flight Cessna is designed with the builder in mind. Meaning a modeler that has building experience under their build. In the hobby it's referred to as a "builder's kit". The construction of a plane like this can be totally different from what you experienced with the LT-40. On a builder's kit there are things that they don't explain how to do because they assume you know what you are doing and you have experienced building. Also, this is a larger plane. Mistakes like poorly fitting parts and gaps between parts won't do much to a smaller plane like your LT-40. But when you get to a bigger and heavier plane things like that can be a killer for the plane. If the structure isn't built true and solid the plane can literally fall apart in the air.

With these points in mind you may want to get some more experience under your belt before tackling this plane. Make it a 3rd or 4th plane that you fly. And get some more building experience before building this one. I'm not trying to rain on your parade here, but I would rather give you some bad news now than to see you hurting after you have spent the time and money on this plane just to see it crash.

Hope this helps.

Ken

I was given a GP Cessna 182 and am flying it as my 2nd plane (NexStar was 1st). I cannot address the building issue (it was already built) but I am very happy with it as a 2nd plane to fly. Sure it's still a high wing tricycle monoplane, but it requires more skills, and mine has a 4 stroke engine. All of these and that I will be adding flaps later, make it a good 2nd plane for me. It flies faster, and since there is little to no dihedral, it does take more skill to fly and land. I'm sure you will get many other opinions but I like mine.

For my next one, I will be researching low or mid wing, tail draggers with flaps.

Good luck and keep is informed as to your decision and your experiences.

Richard

Campy,Ken
the main reason to pick this plane is that it adds flaps.It is a more complex build I know that it will take me two years to build plus my dad used to fly full scale cessna 150 year's ago i haven found any kits for a 150 yet and i have a emotional value to this plane i also concerned that the kits are disappearing for me that is more than half of this hobby (arf's ain't fer me) with that in mind what would be a good kit 2ND plane I want to get a way from the box fuselages or the flying sticks
I know that most warbirds were low wing taildragers
Got any sugestions

thanks guys this fourm is great darn credit card is on fire now !!!!!

not to change the subject but (feel stupid being a IT guy and all asking )where do you go to put up an avatar[&:][:-] looked in the profilie section couldn't find it


you know that sometimes you can't see the forest because all the trees ---lol

B_man,
I still stand by my recommendations about building this as a second plane. I do understand about getting the kit before they disappear. Nothing wrong with buying it and putting it up on the shelf until later on down the road when you have some more experience. I am an avid kit builder and I too see kits disappearing from the market. Because of that I will buy any kit that I feel I might be even slightly interested in. I've got quite a few kits stashed away on the shelves.

Ken

Sure the Cessna would require more flying skills than a trainer because its faster and more responsive, but then a 4* and a Tiger 2 are also faster and more responsive so from that point of view I don't see much difference. I can't comment on how solid a build the Cessna may be. The Tiger 2 is a sturdy build. I had a Cessna 182 that was banged up. I fixed it up and it was a fantastic flyer. It wasn't any harder to fly than my Tiger 2, just different. Also the top wing planes are a bit easier to see than the bottom wings. I prefer tail draggers because they stand up better on our grass field, no front steering linkage to get bumped out of position! If you hold off on the Cessna flying, I would look at the Tiger 2. It is set up so that you can start it off as a trike gear, and then switch it to a tail dragger after you get used to flying it. [8D]

Who makes the tiger 2 kit????

Ken Just getting started don,t have all the $$$$ to put in to the shelves (plus a wife that thinks i am abandoning her with my new interest ) she will have to get over that. what would u recommend for a new kit more challenging that a trainer want to do some sheeting and glass work

The Tiger 2 is a Carl Goldberg kit. Follow the link below to get a look at it and check out the specs. The wing has 680 sq. in. which makes it easy to see as well as fly. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXDJC9&P=7:D

Fastsky
[sm=thumbup.gif]Looks like it might do the trick it does have some shape to it. how was it to build???? didn't see any option for a tail dragger is that going to have to be a custom job [:-]

It sounds like the only real negatives are the build proccess and not the flying abilities. (I have not flown one and am basing this on research I have done)
It is assumed that because you are flying a trainer now that you have no building skills. I make no such assumption. I am flying a trainer myself but it was not my first build, I have built numerous free flight and display models over the years as well as other non airplane builds that I can carry technics from. I think anyone that likes to build can build anything they want if they take their time, follow instructions and do some research when they are not sure of certain areas of the build. Only YOU can judge if you are ready for this build.
What low wing?
I was planning on a 4 Star 60 as my second plane but gave up on that because I got tired of waiting for the backorder. I do have a Hobbico Brightstar I bought used (out of production) that I will probably fly next followed by a Hanger9 AT-6 (ARF)or a Tommy Georges Thunderbird 60 (kit)that is on the build table right now.(talk about lack of instructions. 4 pages of text only, no pictures)
I doesn't hurt to have both a short term and long term build. My long term build is a Balsa USA 1/4 DR1 with full, Glen Torrence cockpit and 2 piece alumn. cowl. This model will be highly detailed and will take a couple of years to finish.(and most likely even longer before I have the skill to fly it)
Whatever you decide on I wish you the best.

[quote]ORIGINAL: Missileman

It is assumed that because you are flying a trainer now that you have no building skills.

i do have some. been building models off and on since i was a kid some some 30+ years plus i have a reasonable wood shop. i did some hope to do scratch build some day but i have learned a lot from this forum and always try to improve my skills. the fact that the kits are disappearing is of great concern to me if the kits go away than the parts will be next then we Will have to re-pioneer the hobby. we have to get the young back involved i don't know about your clubs but around here it seams to be a old man hobby """sorry just a thought"""

back to topic i know i think i will get both (boy the wife is going to kill me !!!!!!!)


as they say " the difference between men and boys is the price of there toys"

As someone who'd rather build than fly, I'd get the Cessna.

Nick
i think you are right i am getting both, what the h-ll its only money and i ain't getting any younger

humm------- is this what you call a midlife crises ????? that way i got one and something to advance my flying skills. maybe we will do a build thread on the tiger 2 going to turn it in to a tail dragger i think

ok we have the next two planes in the bag

hey i am looking for an instructor in the Raleigh wakforest area. anybody interested please pm me
leaning to the rdrc club (close to house) hey you aeromasters y'all are pretty close too can't seam to catch anybody at your field [:-]