Sig Somethin Extra help!
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Good to hear you used 3 hinges
But if that gap is anywhere near 1/2 inch then that is way too large. Ideally you want to just be able to slip a piece of paper through the gap. At the most the blade of a butter knife. A gap that is larger than that will certainly result in flutter and you'll loose the surface in mid flight.
If I were you I would definately get some help putting this together instead of going at it on your own. They could've prevented many of the problems that you've run into while building your SE.
But if that gap is anywhere near 1/2 inch then that is way too large. Ideally you want to just be able to slip a piece of paper through the gap. At the most the blade of a butter knife. A gap that is larger than that will certainly result in flutter and you'll loose the surface in mid flight.
If I were you I would definately get some help putting this together instead of going at it on your own. They could've prevented many of the problems that you've run into while building your SE.
Originally posted by montu
I used three hinges dont worry. The gap is less than half an inch.
-Jordan
I used three hinges dont worry. The gap is less than half an inch.
-Jordan
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From: Calabash, NC
Hi Montu,
I sure am sorry for all the problems you are experiencing with your Something Extra. I have read all the threads regarding your postings. I must agree with everyone's advice however. This plane at best is going to be a handful for you. I don't have one, but I have flown another members. Even at your quick learning pace, I think it would be a really good choice for a third plane. I would like to make a suggestion to you. Consider a good low wing trainer. A couple of newer fliers in our club went from their trainers to a Hangar 9 Advance 40. This plane has a pretty wide performance envelope. It is a tricycle gear configuration. It takes off and lands very nicely and has fairly gentle stall characteristics. As they progressed, they increased their control throws and this plane performs a pretty impressive list of manuevers. Another good choice is a plane that I went to from my trainer. It was a Goldberg Tiger 2. I see now that is is offered as an ARF also. But if you must try the SE, be sure to have an experienced flier check it out first. And I will "kick a dead horse" here too. Be sure to carefully read and follow all instructions on these planes. It will save you time and grief that you are presently going through. Best of luck to you.
Jeff
I sure am sorry for all the problems you are experiencing with your Something Extra. I have read all the threads regarding your postings. I must agree with everyone's advice however. This plane at best is going to be a handful for you. I don't have one, but I have flown another members. Even at your quick learning pace, I think it would be a really good choice for a third plane. I would like to make a suggestion to you. Consider a good low wing trainer. A couple of newer fliers in our club went from their trainers to a Hangar 9 Advance 40. This plane has a pretty wide performance envelope. It is a tricycle gear configuration. It takes off and lands very nicely and has fairly gentle stall characteristics. As they progressed, they increased their control throws and this plane performs a pretty impressive list of manuevers. Another good choice is a plane that I went to from my trainer. It was a Goldberg Tiger 2. I see now that is is offered as an ARF also. But if you must try the SE, be sure to have an experienced flier check it out first. And I will "kick a dead horse" here too. Be sure to carefully read and follow all instructions on these planes. It will save you time and grief that you are presently going through. Best of luck to you.
Jeff
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It wont be a handful because I am a member of a club and I am getting one of the instructers to fly it first . After that I am doing the buddy box for as long as I need til I get the hang of it. Plus I am putting low throw rates on. I should be ok from what I heard from other ppl. later
-Jordan
-Jordan
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WEll
HAVE read and read and read, and tehn read somemore, all I have to say is don't ever try to put a kit together. That Sumpthin Extra in a kit was one of the easiest planes I ever built. And As and ARF should of been like not counting glue curing time about 3 hours from box to flight. I think I have had more than 3 hours of reading questions on it. Oh well good luck.
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HAVE read and read and read, and tehn read somemore, all I have to say is don't ever try to put a kit together. That Sumpthin Extra in a kit was one of the easiest planes I ever built. And As and ARF should of been like not counting glue curing time about 3 hours from box to flight. I think I have had more than 3 hours of reading questions on it. Oh well good luck.
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Hi again Jordan,
This will be my last .02 cents worth on this issue. To address your issue of "buddy boxing". Buddy boxing is somthing that is normally done with an instructor and a beginner flyer with a trainer plane only. If you have to fly the SE with an instructor flyer to bail you out of a possible crash, what do you think this should tell you? It should tell you that maybe you are not yet ready for this plane. Ultimately, it is your decision. Please keep in mind the risks of not only crashing your plane, but losing control and hitting someone or something. This plane in much more manueverable than a trainer.
This will be my last .02 cents worth on this issue. To address your issue of "buddy boxing". Buddy boxing is somthing that is normally done with an instructor and a beginner flyer with a trainer plane only. If you have to fly the SE with an instructor flyer to bail you out of a possible crash, what do you think this should tell you? It should tell you that maybe you are not yet ready for this plane. Ultimately, it is your decision. Please keep in mind the risks of not only crashing your plane, but losing control and hitting someone or something. This plane in much more manueverable than a trainer.
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Well I should be able to fly it by myself with the throw on low rate. I was very comfortable flying the superstar. So I will let the instructer fly it first then land and then let me take over. He will just give it a check up to make sure everythings cool. Then I should be fine. I think you guys would probably think different if you saw me fly in person(imo). I shouldnt have said buddy box I meant he will fly it to check it out first.
-jordan
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Originally posted by montu
I am in the process of putting my sig something extra and I was wondering if there were any hard parts that I should know about. Also I have a o.s 40 la engine , how would i go about making it fit with the needle in the way. Tips would be helpful for other things too. thanks
-Jordan
I am in the process of putting my sig something extra and I was wondering if there were any hard parts that I should know about. Also I have a o.s 40 la engine , how would i go about making it fit with the needle in the way. Tips would be helpful for other things too. thanks
-Jordan
One thing is definite though . . You simply MUST put the ailerons on VERY low rate (maybe as low as 20%) or you will find your first flight will last about 5 seconds.
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Somethin Extra is done , just to let you all know. Saturday will be its madien flight. Im very excited. Also I'm going to get realflight g2 tomorrow. lates
-Jordan
-Jordan
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Originally posted by montu
Somethin Extra is done , just to let you all know. Saturday will be its madien flight. Im very excited. Also I'm going to get realflight g2 tomorrow. lates
-Jordan
Somethin Extra is done , just to let you all know. Saturday will be its madien flight. Im very excited. Also I'm going to get realflight g2 tomorrow. lates
-Jordan
At the risk of repeating advice . .
The model is very stable, and doesn't snap when using the elevator, but can roll in the blink of an eye, soooo, make sure you have low rate (around 40% or less), on the ailerons, or it'll roll more than you want it to on your first turns.
-David
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Hey Guy, thought I was a Hot Shot, flew Hobbico Trainer and tore the wings off doing loops etc that the plane was not designed for. Next a Sig 4 Star 40 with a 61 4 stroke Mag. Just completed my Sig, 300 Arf. Had help on first flight and now I am humble. This is not for a novice regardless of how fast you learned to fly your trainer. ( I have a OS 46FX). Keep your hands off the Flaps in your set up for them. RJ. Pay attention to your club seniors.
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Well today I finally flew after waiting weeks for the wind to calm down and the bad weather to leave. I had it on low rates (i also bought a TT Pro 46 and put it on there) it flew so nice. I flew 4 great flights. The wind can really affect its flying but I will get used to it more in the coming days. I am buying a used futaba 6xas for dual rates and expo. peace
-Jordan
-Jordan
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Congrats Jordan! I think you'll like the 6xas with your SE. It's definitely a plane that is more fun when you can use dual rates. The SE's also a great plane to fly when you want to "use" the wind...
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Originally posted by Dennis DiBona
WEll
HAVE read and read and read, and tehn read somemore, all I have to say is don't ever try to put a kit together. That Sumpthin Extra in a kit was one of the easiest planes I ever built. And As and ARF should of been like not counting glue curing time about 3 hours from box to flight. I think I have had more than 3 hours of reading questions on it. Oh well good luck.
THE DiBo
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HAVE read and read and read, and tehn read somemore, all I have to say is don't ever try to put a kit together. That Sumpthin Extra in a kit was one of the easiest planes I ever built. And As and ARF should of been like not counting glue curing time about 3 hours from box to flight. I think I have had more than 3 hours of reading questions on it. Oh well good luck.
THE DiBo
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I see this is your first post.
I already know there is a spell check feature in this forum and It is used most of the time, but after waiting for it to load for the answers to this post, which seemed to be getting ignored anyway, it was not worth the effort..
I agree, you are here to help but when it gets to the point of being ridiculous THEN Enough is enough. When you have entered many more posts you will learn that after you open a post 15 times, only to see questions that any one WITH any amount of common sense, should be able to answer YOU will get tired too. Oh and by the way, I only repeated what I was getting back via other private messages from many on here. Did you ever hear the saying that GOD HELPS THEM THAT HELP THEM SELVES. You cant spoon feed everyone. Personally I think we were being taken for a ride on this.
THe DiBo :tired:
I already know there is a spell check feature in this forum and It is used most of the time, but after waiting for it to load for the answers to this post, which seemed to be getting ignored anyway, it was not worth the effort..
I agree, you are here to help but when it gets to the point of being ridiculous THEN Enough is enough. When you have entered many more posts you will learn that after you open a post 15 times, only to see questions that any one WITH any amount of common sense, should be able to answer YOU will get tired too. Oh and by the way, I only repeated what I was getting back via other private messages from many on here. Did you ever hear the saying that GOD HELPS THEM THAT HELP THEM SELVES. You cant spoon feed everyone. Personally I think we were being taken for a ride on this.
THe DiBo :tired:
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Originally posted by Dennis DiBona
OH
And by the way YOU should of used the spell check feature yourself
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And by the way YOU should of used the spell check feature yourself
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Originally posted by Dennis DiBona
I see this is your first post.
I already know there is a spell check feature in this forum and It is used most of the time, but after waiting for it to load for the answers to this post, which seemed to be getting ignored anyway, it was not worth the effort..
I agree, you are here to help but when it gets to the point of being ridiculous THEN Enough is enough. When you have entered many more posts you will learn that after you open a post 15 times, only to see questions that any one WITH any amount of common sense, should be able to answer YOU will get tired too. Oh and by the way, I only repeated what I was getting back via other private messages from many on here. Did you ever hear the saying that GOD HELPS THEM THAT HELP THEM SELVES. You cant spoon feed everyone. Personally I think we were being taken for a ride on this.
THe DiBo :tired:
I see this is your first post.
I already know there is a spell check feature in this forum and It is used most of the time, but after waiting for it to load for the answers to this post, which seemed to be getting ignored anyway, it was not worth the effort..
I agree, you are here to help but when it gets to the point of being ridiculous THEN Enough is enough. When you have entered many more posts you will learn that after you open a post 15 times, only to see questions that any one WITH any amount of common sense, should be able to answer YOU will get tired too. Oh and by the way, I only repeated what I was getting back via other private messages from many on here. Did you ever hear the saying that GOD HELPS THEM THAT HELP THEM SELVES. You cant spoon feed everyone. Personally I think we were being taken for a ride on this.
THe DiBo :tired:



