Throttle set up
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Just wanted some opinions. I have generally used a wire cable for my throttles, but at the field the other day one of the guys suggested that I move to a firm flex throw rod, are there any strong feelings out there? I have had some problems with Engine Outs and the guy at the field suggested it was because of my throttle set up. I have made the change to a hard rod, bent to get around my fuel tank, it seems to have much less play and was pretty easy to set up. On the other hand I had people tell me to use the cable in the first place.
I guess what ever works, but what is the standard.
Just wondering.
Manks
I guess what ever works, but what is the standard.
Just wondering.
Manks
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To quote an old song, "different strokes for different folks!"
I usually use a cable set up so that a hit on the nose doesn't translate into a broken servo gear. I used to use an override set up with springs. I didn't have trouble with either of them... but that might mean I'm using a more forgiving engine than some.
I usually use a cable set up so that a hit on the nose doesn't translate into a broken servo gear. I used to use an override set up with springs. I didn't have trouble with either of them... but that might mean I'm using a more forgiving engine than some.
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Only reason to not use something is if it sticks or flexes. A braided cable inside a tube is good if each end of the tube is locked down, and the cable is not binding in the tube. Use that setup almost every airplane. Now that the carburetor arms are plastic, nothing to avoid up there.
There is so little force required to control a carburetor, there isn't really any setup that doesn't work if it's installed correctly.
There is so little force required to control a carburetor, there isn't really any setup that doesn't work if it's installed correctly.
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Only reason to not use something is if it sticks or flexes. A braided cable inside a tube is good if each end of the tube is locked down, and the cable is not binding in the tube. Use that setup almost every airplane. Now that the carburetor arms are plastic, nothing to avoid up there.
There is so little force required to control a carburetor, there isn't really any setup that doesn't work if it's installed correctly.
Only reason to not use something is if it sticks or flexes. A braided cable inside a tube is good if each end of the tube is locked down, and the cable is not binding in the tube. Use that setup almost every airplane. Now that the carburetor arms are plastic, nothing to avoid up there.
There is so little force required to control a carburetor, there isn't really any setup that doesn't work if it's installed correctly.
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Personally, I prefer flex cable. Since the throttle linkage often has to be worked around the fuel tank, this type provides the easiest, most friction-free setup.
Your "engine out" problems are caused by the set up of the linkage, not the type of the linkage. They can also be caused by improper engine tuning.
Dr.1
Your "engine out" problems are caused by the set up of the linkage, not the type of the linkage. They can also be caused by improper engine tuning.
Dr.1
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I used to use cable but I've switched to using .047 music wire in a golden rod inner sleeve (hey if it's good enough for Sullivan Cable it works for me)
I'll solder on a 2-56 threaded coupler and use a nylon clevis on engines with a metal throttle arm. If it's a plastic arm I'll just solder on a metal clevis.
The .047 rod is still fairly flexible but a bit stiffer and lighter than cable. The Servo arm gets a screw set EZ connector..
I'll solder on a 2-56 threaded coupler and use a nylon clevis on engines with a metal throttle arm. If it's a plastic arm I'll just solder on a metal clevis.
The .047 rod is still fairly flexible but a bit stiffer and lighter than cable. The Servo arm gets a screw set EZ connector..
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I use the cable, it`s easier to set up the 4 strokes .
I use the cable, it`s easier to set up the 4 strokes .
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The four stroke, at least the one I had, the throttle was on the other side of the carb (left side if viewing from the rear). That made for some interesting linkage setup in the plane that I had that engine installed. I had to carve some of the fuselage cheek next to where the carb linkage was to make clearance.
So, if you decide to go four stroke, make sure you look such things over.
One more thing I might suggest, no matter what method you finally decide on: avoid is metal-to-metal contact at the carb throttle arm. Some are made of plastic, so if that's the case, then it won't be a problem. But some are made of metal. So, avoid using a metal clevis to make the connection. I use these neat little plastic Dubro Ball Socket gizmo's that work great. The ball attaches to the throttle arm and the socket attaches to the hardware you use for the linkage from the servo, for a 40 - 60 size, you might use 2-56 hardware.
I use a length of Sullivan Golden Rod with a 2-56 threaded rod that has been screwed into the center of the golden rod. The golden rod is flexible and strong. Just provide two or three hard points for the guide tube along the path from the servo through the firewall. Scrape or sand the surface of the guide tube a bit, enough for epoxy to 'grab' on to at the hard points. The golden rod will slide easily through the guide tube so you can 'steer' it around any obsticals (within reason). Then attach the ball socket to the 2-56 rod, and adjust the opposite end (servo) for the correct length and put a clevis on there and off you go.
So, if you decide to go four stroke, make sure you look such things over.
One more thing I might suggest, no matter what method you finally decide on: avoid is metal-to-metal contact at the carb throttle arm. Some are made of plastic, so if that's the case, then it won't be a problem. But some are made of metal. So, avoid using a metal clevis to make the connection. I use these neat little plastic Dubro Ball Socket gizmo's that work great. The ball attaches to the throttle arm and the socket attaches to the hardware you use for the linkage from the servo, for a 40 - 60 size, you might use 2-56 hardware.
I use a length of Sullivan Golden Rod with a 2-56 threaded rod that has been screwed into the center of the golden rod. The golden rod is flexible and strong. Just provide two or three hard points for the guide tube along the path from the servo through the firewall. Scrape or sand the surface of the guide tube a bit, enough for epoxy to 'grab' on to at the hard points. The golden rod will slide easily through the guide tube so you can 'steer' it around any obsticals (within reason). Then attach the ball socket to the 2-56 rod, and adjust the opposite end (servo) for the correct length and put a clevis on there and off you go.
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The four stroke, at least the one I had, the throttle was on the other side of the carb (left side if viewing from the rear). That made for some interesting linkage setup in the plane that I had that engine installed. I had to carve some of the fuselage cheek next to where the carb linkage was to make clearance.
The four stroke, at least the one I had, the throttle was on the other side of the carb (left side if viewing from the rear). That made for some interesting linkage setup in the plane that I had that engine installed. I had to carve some of the fuselage cheek next to where the carb linkage was to make clearance.
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