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Old 09-07-2005 | 04:29 PM
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Thanks for the advice on the blade grips... this will probably help out on keeping the blades tracking straight instead of it looking off set where one blade sits higher than the other when observing the blades in rotation. I spent a good deal of time getting the blades balanced and the tail mixing about right.
Old 09-07-2005 | 08:41 PM
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ORIGINAL: pHREDD

I feel like im am making progress with the blade. I have went from scooting to hopping. Maybe one day I will hover. I keep fooling with the trim but I feel like I can never get it adjusted just right. Anytime I feel like I am making progress my battery runs out and I have to start all over. I know once its in the air I will have to put input on the TX but it still feels like I have to put in to much input. SHould I be able to adjust it where there is little input? I am looking foward to a controled hover.
PERFECT .. do not progress beyond your full understanding of the machine.. it'll save ya time and heartache.. And Money.. fiddle with it, and understand its infinate possibility, and Just when ya think ya got it all figured out.. A new dynamic will show up. Your on the right track '_;
Old 09-07-2005 | 08:57 PM
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the blade grip tension should really not have much effect on their tracking unless theyre out of balance. If they are not balanced CG wise.. (center of gravity) its best to keep them a little tighter than normal. The better the balance the blades.. the looser in the grips you may maintain them, which adds to fluidity and effienciey, Most new pilots tend to keep them tight as possible but able to "give" at impact for obvious reasons. whichever method you use to test their tightness, its best to take in consideration also are they too loose and floppy? Tolerance is critical when it comes to helicopters.. and it rides right there with balance, and the amount of tolerance you wish to maintain. the tighter the tolerance, the tighter the turn.. or.. impending disaster?
Old 09-07-2005 | 09:27 PM
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After work I went to a paved lot and did the hover thing. It was my best yet. 15 seconds of glory. In the open lot it was a lot easyer than my 6x6 square in my bedroom. the only hard thing was it was pretty windy. I did crash twice, once I was hovering and the landing gear (and the training gear) fell off and I had to drop it and ruined a set of blades. the second crash I flew into a tree. I was trying for a long hover and it started to get further away and rising. It got over the road and I knew I had to bring it back but I didnt notice how close the tree wasn. It hit the limbs and got hung up about 8 feet in the air with hardly no damage. I hope to keep increasing my hover time and soon learn to fly this heli.

Thanks for the input everyone
Old 09-07-2005 | 09:32 PM
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I picture my dad behind me 100 feet when I realised he wasent helping me ride a bike,., though as soon as I realised he wasent there.. I crashed!.. uncanny..
Old 09-07-2005 | 09:54 PM
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The way I learned to fly a plane was get it real high and then control it from up high, gave me enough height to learn action and reaction and I did crash allot until I finally got it...
same with this small heli,, I kept trying to hover it and it was taking to damn long to learn so I took it out and gave it full throttle so it went way up and Walla I started to control it even though it was all over the sky
I finally flew it and I was so excited till it crashed! I even learned to throttle it off before it hits the ground so it doesn’t explode.
But that gave me enough to want to keep trying more till now I fly like a pro :P after only 1 month I am flying loops, upside down and well hovering with out a problem

I think i would still be trying to bunnyhop it off the ground if i didnt decide to go ballsout!!

worked for me.. guys at the field think i need a gas now "a move up"
but i im getting a trex or the humming elite pro..

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Old 09-07-2005 | 10:10 PM
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You sure your connectors for the servos are hooked correctly? pull the plugs out of the receiver for the two motors and then turn the chopper on then look at one of the blades or tip from the side, give the transmitter throttle and make sure the tip of the blade twists clockwise.

Transmitter to chopper test.
Put the tail of the chopper pointed towards you.
Left transmitter stick test :
Push stick left = servo on the rear right pushes up servo on the rear left pulls down.
Push stick right = servo on the rear right pulls down servo on the rear left pushes up.
Push stick up = servo on the front pulls down and both servos on the rear left and right push up.
Push stick down = servos on the rear left and right pull down and the servo on the front pushes up.

Right transmitter stick test :
Push right = tail motor will push the tail to the left.
Push right = tail motor will push the tail to the right.
Push up = the rotor blades twist clock wise and the chopper motor revs up for lift.
Push down = rotor blades twist back to center or an even plane and motor slows down to off.

Hope I didn’t give to much info:
yep, all that checks out, well, aside from the tail, i have the remote reversed so that with the tail in, left moves the tail left, and vise versa,
thanks for the suggestion tho, im going to go check evereything over again, and replace the flybar and make sure evereything is snug where it is suposto be, im still thinking i have my picth out a bit on one blade, (i have set the tracking on the blades) so, keep checking it over and over, i know i missed somthing somewhere
thanks again
Old 09-07-2005 | 11:55 PM
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Are the flybar paddles aligned?.


Old 09-08-2005 | 12:10 PM
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Ok, I got the new main gear/shaft, center hub, and retaining pin replaced. Nothing else changed. Now when I try to fly it, it just spins in circles. Do I have something to tight to make the tail spin like this? The tail rotor is spinning but with left tx stick all the way to the right, I get no response. I did nothing to the 4 n 1 settings. Not sure where to go from here. Thanks in advance.
Old 09-08-2005 | 07:02 PM
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I figured out the problem. The tail rotor motor was dead or almost dead. Replaced it and put on some new carbon blades and it is a different heli. I can't believe the difference from flat wooden blades. The heli pro at the LHS says I should be flying a raptor 30. The smile I got from him when I asked if I could fly his (already knowing better) told me that I need to save my money. He did show me how much more stable it though. I can't wait to upgrade.
Old 09-08-2005 | 10:14 PM
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flybars? the the bar was warped, so i replaced that, and still nothing.
i am still thinking that it has somthing to do with a miss configured pitch,
i might be using the guage wrong, but when i try setting it, it ends up with a -15 to +7 if i center it with the stick down to a +-0 pitch, it is stupost be at a -+10 in either way right? so im going to asume that the remote trim needs to be center as well?
and can anyone give any advice on setting the pitch without a guage? im kinda thinking the one i have is too big for my heli, thanks
Old 09-09-2005 | 05:24 PM
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mine are a 9
with the throttle stick all the way down or off..
Old 09-09-2005 | 10:32 PM
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I bought the eflight Blade today. I am new to heli. I notied the instructions don't at all tell me how to fly this thing. What do you guys recommend? Thanks!
Old 09-09-2005 | 11:11 PM
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Garywi - Being new to flying anything also, my first suggestion is to take it nice and slow. Read the manual. First of all did you get training gear for it. I strongly recommend that you do get some or build some. I was told the first thing you want to do is learn to keep the tail in towards you. Don't even try to lift off with it. Take it one step at a time and don't rush it. Here is a link that will give you some idea what to do even though it is for the Raptor helicopter. Start with "How To's - flying" - "Learning to Hover" and read what he says there.

http://www.raptortechnique.com/

The only other suggestion is to find someone at the Local Hobby Shop (LHS) who flys helicopters and talk to them. I have yet to meet and talk to a flyer that would not help me.

Good luck.
Old 09-11-2005 | 09:51 AM
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question on carbon fiber blades how much difrence do they make and are they worth the money?
Old 09-11-2005 | 09:59 AM
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carbon fiber blaedes do they make a diffrence and if so are they worth the money
Old 09-11-2005 | 12:08 PM
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rampage - I just put carbon blades on mine and it is a different helicopter. I went straight to the carbon blade and did not use the wood symetrical blades so I don't know if there is a difference between those two sets. If you are still crashing a lot, I might try the wooden sym blades just because of the cost to replace. I am sure others know a whole lot more than me since I am still a newbie to flight. I did not change motors either. Just put on heatsinks. Hope this helps.
Old 09-11-2005 | 12:13 PM
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Here are My Mods to date on my Blade..

I first installed the GWs Tail Mod and 2 Heat Sinks.
Then I updated the landing gear added a tail boom support and fine from Century H.B.
Next I changed back to the 10 tooth gear, faster head speed. I then added a secound heat sink to the main motor.
Installed C.F. Main Blade's.
1320 lipo.
I installed the E-Sky bell-hiller head on my Blade, Much more nimble
Installed the Century pro Brushed 370 motor and 10 tooth gear.
What I found.

1: No More tail Wag. Pot is set to full on receiver.
2: 10 tooth Gear On main motor gives faster head speed, more stable heli, two heat sinks keeps her cool.
3: With added weight of the struts it's stable as all hell, and can take one hard landing.

here are my pic's

http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/ga...emberId=187661
Old 09-11-2005 | 12:41 PM
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I just put heat sinks on my main and tail motor. The main motor still gets pretty hot to touch. The tail motor gets warm but not nearly as hot as the main motor. Should the heat sink be below the two holes in the main motor or shouls they cover them? Also, would heat sink paste work better to disapate the heat?


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Old 09-11-2005 | 12:47 PM
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Wanny07 - The heatsinks need to be below the vent holes in the motor. The motor needs to breath. Put a thin layer of heatsink compound on the heatsink before installing
Old 09-11-2005 | 12:52 PM
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Does Radio Shack sell that stuff?
Old 09-11-2005 | 01:02 PM
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Wanny07 - Yes or a local computer store will have it also.
Old 09-11-2005 | 01:38 PM
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no dont hardly ever crash anymore i am still learning i have masterd hovering and foward straight flight along with aft straight flight but as for going in circles or anything more than keeping the tail towards me well diffrent story i am practicing everyminute i get or when ever the batteries pertain me to lol but i have 1320 lipo the sym blades and motor and heat sinks i just has been so windy hear i cant really practice and flight beside hovering i also want to find a video of this flying beside what they have at horizon hobby thanks for replying
Old 09-11-2005 | 05:39 PM
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Does the heat sink paste work a lot better than just the heat sink itself? How hot should my motors be getting with just the heat sink on?
Old 09-11-2005 | 07:31 PM
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Boy, this is a long thread.

Got the Blade Heli this past Friday, and I have been working at it all weekend. Yes I am new at Heli.

I can't control this thing. I can't get the tail trimed out, either by the 4 in 1 proportion setting, or by trim on the control. Nose wants to go left mostly, but then right after I adjust. No middle ground. Also, this thing is all over when I get it light on the skids, even if I make big inputs on the controls, it does not really respond crisply.

What are the adjustments I should be making to at least get a few inches off the ground in a controlled manner.

Could someone summarize all 28 pages in this thread?

What are the top 10 adjustments or hop ups that you must do?

Thanks



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