Not the collars that are close the the main shaft but the ones that are next to the paddles

They act as flybar weights

I removed mine completely.

Rolling to inverted is much easier than fliping forward or backward. It rolls much faster to the right than it does to the left. 3 mistakes high and punch the positive cyclic then perform the roll and smooth it out to negative cyclic as it gets inverted. Best way to do it.

If you must flip it the heli seems to go forward easier than it does backwards.

Thanks losts0ul appreciate the reply. The first adventure into inverted i tired to pitch back. That just didnt work out. I will get it repaired and try to roll into it next time. THanks!

Anyone have any vids of rolling the CP or going inverted by rolling forward or backward?

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...mynameisdookie....what in $%^ made you pick a name like that...ROFLMAO...Thats hilarious.

No vids...but heres a pic....and yes I did plant it shortly there after.

Hey now, don't laugh....it's a family name. HAHAHA jk. It's better than "HelloMyNameIsBryanAndI'mAMethAddict......BOOM!The reGoesTheTrailer!".

I've seen the vids done by RCU at the Micro Heli Championships, but I want to see some vids of people going inverted that aren't pro pilots.

The roll started above the housetops, to my rear....you cant tell it but the helicopter isnt quite inverted. Its actually at about 30 degrees. It was getting so low, I shoved reverse pitch in it, and it shot off towards that tree you see in the pic. I managed to roll it back over right side up, and then shortly there after I tried a forward flip, and planted it in the yard across the street.

I think there is a video on the Horizon website that shows them rolling it over inverted. You'll need lots of altitude and plenty of space the first time you try it.

The new bell/hiller head will help ALOT if they ever release it.

"BOOM...theregoesthetrailer" HAHAHA...I should change my name to "BOOM..canIborrow20bucksforsomenewheliparts"

ptgarcia

How did it respond without the flybar weights (wheel collars next to the paddle)?

If anyone can toss up a link if they can find that video of the inverted CP

Thanks

In my opinion, much better. It responds a bit quicker to inputs, which helped me. I was always over-doing it with the input because there was that delayed reaction. Now, when I input it responds almost immediately.

Thanks for your input

Here's a link to the World Micro Heli Cup vids: [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=600]Click Here[/link]
And to Horizon's vids: [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH1100]Click Here - At bottom of page look for "Video Footage"[/link]

Question: What is a good TX to use that doesn't cost me both of my kids to buy? I am looking to upgrade my Tx, but I want to know if I can use the same crystals that I already have or will I need to buy new ones, or will I have to buy something else to replace the 4-in-1?

Thanx

I bought the Futaba 7C from AllERc. It is an amazing TX. Almost all of the functionality of the 9C only without 2 channels. AllERC sells just the TX for $149 for the airplane version. There are 2 versions. 1 for heli's and one for airplanes. The heli one is $169. The only differences between the 2 are the switch layout, heli one has a non-ratcheted throttle, and the default model type for the heli one is a heli instead of a plane. Otherwise they are exactly the same transmitters with the exact same software only different defaults. Why the heli one is more I don't know. I highly recommend this TX.

http://www.allerc.com/product_info.p...roducts_id=753

In order to use it with the Blade's 4-in-1 you must use a Futaba Short crystal. It's single conversion on the channel that the transmitter is on. I have mine working on channel 43 which is what I use with my planes as well. Works wonderfully. If you get the 7C I have the entire programming for it for the blade posted in numerous places here and on rcgroups.

i have a blade cp as well as futaba 7chp. can you post your setup for the tx plz.
thanks

Have a question for you fellow CP owners. I purchased two blade cp's and they both have been piles of S?it. One i have to send back to horizon the other seems to have a mind of its own. No matter what i do i cant get the thing to just hover without tons of trimming or tail input. Took the thing outside and the stupid cheep tail rotor broke well you can imagine how well it flew then. Just pretty frustrated after all this time and money they are just piles of fing crap. Has anyone seem to struggle with there setup. I think im done with electric all my experience have been pretty bad. :-/

Phenom, not to sound rude, but I think you may need to exercise a little more patience. One of the first things the manual recommends is to work out your control inputs, and then to tune the response of the heli by adjusting the trim pots on the 4-in-1. Mine was all over the place as well - however with "patience" and trial and error I have the thing locked in and I love to fly it. It took me all of 10 minutes to get mine dialed in the first time, and then with each upgrade of blades (I'm on Carbons now) I had to do more fine tuning. I had even more fine tuning to do when I went to my Futaba radio over the stock unit. Trimming and tweaking helicopters is part of the package. The surprising thing about these for their price is the fact that you get a helicopter that has had the CCPM mix already configured for you - you don't have to deal with that, only minor trimming.

No offense, but if you think these are difficult to tune and trim I'd suggest staying away from the more complex birds. The only thing they have going for them - and this is AFTER you have gone through the pain of setting them up - is the heading hold gyro and potentially more stability as they are larger.

I think if you take the time and exercise enough patience to get yours in trim you will really enjoy flying it. Just my .02.

J

I agree with what maxim said. Horizon wouldnt have sold thousands if they were junk.

Best thing you may want to do is find a hobbyshop or a heli guy that will help you. This is my 1st heli and they are complex, but when I had someone show/help me , setup and fine tune. I love mine, just flew mine outside without the training gear. No crashes and lots of fun. I know it can be agrevating just find some help.

yes i do belive patinece its a short trade for me. Ill set it down for today and try again when im not so heated :-/. Sorry for the rude post. and thanks for the advice

Is Bdavison going to get to finish the Blade info. I think he left off when he was getting ready to do the upgrade section. Was very interesting, and I want to keep learning. After I started reading this forum, I had to have one of these. Thanks to Bdavison and everyone else that has offered info and experiences.

From planks to rotors!!!

That's what keeps me reading this thread, in hopes that B Davidson has added something.

Upgrades, my LHS had one of the new aluminum swash plates. I wonder when the Bell-hiller will be available from Horizon. I think that may be the biggest "bang for the buck" upgrade.

Question to anyone.... What exactly does the Bell Hiller System provide for the BCP besides extra weight issues... I wonder...With that aluminum swashplate, bell-hiller system and a possible aluminum airframe (upgrade) and even maybe a CNC Head this electric mini helicopter would be a flying BRICK.....
I know someone has had the money to try out the whole deal.... If someone has really tried this setup please inform us all on how flight performance is effected by the extra weight...