I have been having fun trying to learn to fly on my Pro but it has just started to act weird. With the Tx on the table i.e. untouched by human hands, the servos start twitching and occasionally the rotors start to fire up.

Last time I tried it, the rotors span up enough to pick up the machine and then smash it into the ground hard enough to take off the rotor tips.

I haven't had any hard crashes but I did bend the Tx aerial very slightly at the tip. It seems to me to be the Tx because I tried leaving the helo powered up and turning off the Tx and no servo twitch but I really have no clue.

Anyone have an ideas - especially since it is now really too dangerous to use?

If you are useing the stock Tx you probably are having interferience. I had a similar problem where when I would move the stick just slightly the servos would twitch. I upgraded to the DX6 and have not had a problem yet.

I had similar issues with mine. look at the battery compartment. Some of the springs are bent too far away from the battery so that any movement of the tx can cause a momentary loss of power, or make your heli look like it just gltiched. Make sure all the batts are tightly in there. This solved my problem easily and quickly. Let me know if this helps.

Yep - seems it was the Tx batteries. I changed them all out for new ones, checked all the connectors and it seems to be working OK now.

Thanks guys.

just got back from my first absolutely perfect flight in a while, so i figured i'd share my sunshine story with you guys.

i finally settled on what i found to be the best tail setup (after a couple long months of testing), i flew it for a month without realizing that the thrust bearing in my eflight aluminum swashplate was very loose and slipping 1/8" up and down in it's hole. that was the cause of numerous incidents in the past month, but i just figured it out and fixed it the other day.

now my cpp is performing absolutely perfectly. i assumed my collective would be more precise with the bearing fixed, but my cyclic also became utterly predictable and easy to feel. it almost felt like i was flying the "threedee" model from the fms simulator. if you have played with fms, you know the threedee flies way too perfectly. well folks, all i can say is i'm stoked that my $'s invested have actually accomplished making my cpp feel locked-in during any maneuver i throw at it. i never would've thought i'd get that feeling of complete confidence in flight without having a trex.

cheers for high headspeeds and expensive electronics!!!

Hi! All
Was wondering what lube is everyone using and who supplies it? I have not been able to find a non-petroleum based lube.

Doug

Has anyone tried using the stock tail setup but upgrading the tail esc? I am guessing that the tail motors aren't that bad, its just the ESC is super slow. Can anyone confirm that? Thanks.

zope_pope,
the esc responds almost instantly to gyro commands. the little stock tail motor is always playing catch up because it lacks power & torque. to my knowledge nobody has upgraded the tail esc while using the stock 3n1 gyro (for good reasons too).

the most common way ppl improve a stock cpp tail is first getting direct drive, then a heading hold gyro. few ppl end up going farther than that with the blade's tail. there are expensive brushless tail options that most consider too extreme.

dougwill,
i use 50,000wt silicone oil for my plastic links, and synthetic 30wt motor oil for the metal parts in the swashplate. you can get it at most hobby stores. they sell the stuff as "diff oil" for 1/8th scale nitro buggies. you could also use lighter weight silicone shock oil; the stuff that's meant for rc cars and sold at most hobby shops. i like the heavier diff oil since it stays put longer so you don't have to lube as often. i don't play with my bearings since they're grease packed/maintenance free. i plan on replacing them when they go bad, which takes probably well over 100hrs of flight (i'm at over 75hrs with all brushless motors and mine are fine).

Hello I need a cable to do the sims on my computer using the bccp controller anyone have a source. I found one from Hitec but its not going to be out till begining of March.

I have a cable but it uses a microphone jack and it only works with Pre-Flight. I never got it to work but I would sell it to you (sim+cable) for $40. All is in good condition it just is not compatible with my computer's sound card.

Pm me if your interested,
Justin

I am selling my PRE-Flight simulator on E-Bay.
Here is the link
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The reason I ask is I have dual tail motors and a G90 gyro, and still, the tail just doesn't want to behave. I may sell the tail motor setup and just get direct drive, but then again my wife just gave me the okay for a TREX, so maybe i shouldn't bother. We'll see.

Is there a place I can order everything i need for direct drive, as a combo or something? Thanks.

I got all my DD stuff from tower. Motor, tail rotor blade, adaptor... i used the stick mount because it works fine with a little dremel work.

Trug, so glad to hear its all sorted out! I'm wondering if that bearing was out for awhile. Mine is really solid and predictable, though not as high performance as yours. So maybe its been giving you fits before you knew about it.

hi
im thinking of getting a blade CP Pro and i have some questions about it.
1. is it a good heli?
2. can i use my eclipse-7 controle.
3.is there a lot of configurations to do on it when you take it out of the box ore is it just to charge and go?
4. can you give some pros and cons on the heli!

and if these questions have been asked befor can you point me in the right direction.......

thanks/Noogie

Its a pretty good heli for the money. It isn't a trex, but it isn't bad to learn on. It can be upgraded quite a bit, and the mods to the tail rotor make quite a difference. Stock setup just doesn't hold well for anything.

Is the eclipse negative or positive shift? The BCPP uses a neg shift rx.

One charge and go. It comes with everything. Just mount the battery and go. Very user friendly. I mean you do have to tweak the tail mix and gyro gain on the 3 in1 a bit to suit your flying style, but that is absolutely it.

Pros:
Price
Looks
Readily Available parts
Reasonable performance stock

Cons:
It really is alcking in the tail rotor dept.
Doesn't handle wind well at all
Skids can fall out for no reason
Glitches quite a bit too.

Hope this helps.

I got mine for Christmas. I like it.

After having a eflite blade cx receiver went out in 2 months and a eflite blade cp pro transmitter went out in 7 months I am hereby denouncing this product line eflite as inferior junk. I have had enough the hundreds of dollars in parts to maintain these helis, The many man hours repairing them. Its not worth it the radio equipment is junk!
I Like the way the pro flys but if I knew then what I know now, I would have bought just the heli bare bones and a better radio system. Of course there is no warranty except that it will work out of the box.

I upgraded to a 3800KV 25A motor, 30A ESC, and 2200mAh 15C battry. The added weight of the battry should help me ballence the heli.

I am still waiting for my 3-n-1 back from horizon.

I am still waiting for my ESC and battry. Is there any way to test the BL motor w/o a ESC? Like just with a 9V or something?

I just got back from our Sunday morning indoor heli fly. I did a bunch of nice, vertical stall turns for the first time with the blade. I was worried before about how it would pull out of a vertical dive with limited room, but shouldn't have. It was no problem at all. I was really rippin' in forward flight, too, going across to the next stall turn. Somebody said to be careful because the tail wouldn't stop where I wanted it to and he was right. No big, just straighten it on the way down. I did some pretty nice nose down funnels too. I think my brushed motor is getting weaker. Is that what happens before it goes out? The change to idle up is getting to be less and less dramatic. I think its brushless time.

Brushed motors only last 2-3 months (depending on how often you fly) before they make flight times worse and weaker power. The guy at my LHS said he replaces brushed motors every month.

Brushless never wear out.

Hey guys, I am just buying my Blade CP Pro, and i was looking for some advise... Could you guess tell me the does and don't about this. And just for curiosity, for inverted flight do u have to flick a switch for it to hover inverterd, or does it just fly lkie it would the right side up? Thanks!

To answer your first question I have to ask what your helicopter experience is?
If you are new to helis then either get a sim and learn using RADD's at: http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html
This is the best way to learn your controls. Sims keep you from buying lots of replacement parts. :-)
To answer your question about inverted flight-- You flip the switch on the right side of your TX called the idle up switch. This switch changes your pitch and throttle settings. Never flip the switch while your heli is sitting on the ground with the battery attached. With the TX idle up switch pulled towards you, you will find that the throttle at the down position is at full throttle in negative pitch and will burn out your motor as well as possible damage to other parts.
This switch is only to be flipped while you are in flight. At half throttle you are at zero pitch (approximate). At full throttle you are at 100% throttle and positive pitch, at zero throttle you are 100% throttle in negative pitch (for inverted flight). There are a lot of variables to this but I believe that my explanation is long but to the point.

Michael

inverted flight is not just flipping a switch, it's the controls, 3 of the 4 controls are reversed and you have to cope with that while and after you've flipped it over. i'm doing inverted 'hover' right now (kinda like those first upright ones except you can't cut the throttle) adn man... it takes alot of work. but... i don't have a sim... and i'd say is not like, upright you don't flip the switch, and inverted you flip it... it just changes pitch/throttle curves so that THE HELI is capable of hovering inverted.

Hey thanks guys, i just went on the sim. today and i was hovering it inverted, seemed pretty easy on the sim but its gonna be a heck of a lot harder on the real thing:P Thanks for your comments. This is my first heli and i am going to start it up soon and try to fly it. WISH ME LUCK!

Lilpilot13

Is anyone using the 3x2 prop that comes with the GWS motor? Also do you have to have the adapter if you go this way?