yeah thanks so much for that BJ, can you post up your paint scheme picture for me too. I think i need some colour on it but need some ideas.

How the hell is ember bender posting again in the new aussie for sale threads. Its so not far. I get 4months and hes back posting. Im over it

Yeah I saw that too, what the hell man.

Even the mod said in his infraction comments to bender that his PM was as bad as yours so how can he get off while your still in the dog house.

I'd be getting on to someone about that. Can't have double standards.

Who are you trying to kid?

That place is FULL of double-standards...

BJ

Stal,

HK just got the MX 2 into the Aus warehouse
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Warehouse.html

You gonna get it ??

yes meebo i will be getting one for sure. I just need to get some funds together thats all mate. I know it also needs 4s lipos to get it off the ground as well. I will be putting another motor in it as well. But i will try and get some funds together soon and order one.

You know who has gone and cried to glydr and i bet he has abused his admin rights and let him off. I PM an admin but they dont care. They dont see my side of the story. Karma will come his way soon enough mate. A bus will run him over soon i hope.

Man i want that mx2 now so bad. Its $160 posted. I know they will sell out soon as well. Hmmm I might sell off my rc car maybe.

Actually Meebo after alot of thought and reading about all the problems with that MX2 i dont think i will get one. My extra 260 is about as good as this plane is. So theres no reason to get one the same.

I actually ordered parts for my rc car this morning so i can get that going again. This time i will install a slipper clutch so i dont strip out the diff.

Not to sure what plane i will get next. I think ill just have fun with the ones i have for a while.

Im still yet to fly the rare bear. Im sure this thing will give me the thrill of my life.

Dunno about the 'thrill of my life' bit - Bali must have cum close

But I sure hope you get to appreciate the 'Bear for what it is.

It's not exactly a World Record beater, that's for sure. But then again, it's not costing you an arm and a leg.

IMHO, be patient with it. Dial yourself and the plane into what it can do.

For a lil foamie running on 3S 1000mAh, it can shunt along at quite a lick.

Be warned - it's deceptively fast. You'll find that out for yourself first time you stove it into the ground at around 90mph [X(]

You should be able to see my 'hi-viz' duco job here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...6#post19063937

BJ

PS - black bars on the underwings. You can't possibly screw your orientation perspective with that - and it looks real WWII that way

Looks like Stals gone MIA

Where is ya Stal ??

im here buddy just been busy

havent put the rare bear together yet. Might have a go at it in the morning.

Whats new with you mate?

Jeez...

I would have thought you'd have ripped that 'Bear through the skies already...

BJ

nah BJ ive been pretty slack on the rc front. Going up to dads on monday so i might do it then.

I just won me eflite park 480 motor for $36. I plan to take the 35-30 1100kv motor off the hyperion snyper and put it back into the extra 260. Then ill install the park 480 onto the hyperion snyper.

Im hoping the park 480 will give me that little bit more punch to do some awesome 3d with the hyperion snyper without it being to powerfull and sucking all the juice out of the lipo.

I think ill fit a 11x5.5 prop on both of these birds. Seems to be the sweet spot for props.

The 1700kv motor in the extra 260 was just overkill. Sure its a blast to fly but i cant do the loopy rolly polly thing with it anymore. I think i will have to install a higher torque servo in the rudder as well. It seems the hxt900's dont have enough grunt to move the steerable tail wheel on take off and landing.

Oh well i have a few projects. Just gotta get motivated and do them.

well BJ i finally got around to building up the rarebear today. Went up to dads and he helped me alot. I think i have the esc and lipo in a good place for the right CG. I just taped on the back tail section for now. I might have to adjust the elevator control rod so i wanted to be able to get at it.

I used an orange rx so that i could set up the ailerons independent. I have flaps set up on it but not sure how effective it was. Once i had the motor going i held it away from dads face and give it a blast and hes like holy hell ill have to re do my hair. He was impressed with the power of this little beast.

I hot glued in a small piece of foam in front of the lipo so that it holds it tight in place inside there. Seems to work well so far.

I have the elevator set up so it set to climb a little. I hope this is set up right.

Should i give it the underhand toss while holding climbing on the elevator stick? Whats the best way?

Anyways heres a few pictures of the rare bear, my parkjet and my extra 260.

The 'Bear looks like she's ready to rawk-n-roll

As for overhand v's underhand launches, I just found it a bit too fat to hang on to for an overhand launch. And I ended up face-planting mine about 3 times before I switched to underhand, which I found heaps better for me.

A lil up-ele won't hurt - I'm pretty sure you need to set them up so that the ele is a frag up-ele from being dead flush with the rest of the rear stab. You'll soon know if you've got too much up-ele on - it'll climb like a missile. I was quite amazed regarding how a little movement of both the elevator and aileron control surfaces translates into a pretty big movement of the plane.

Your Dad was right too - that prop sure produces some serious thrust for such a little and light plane. Crank her up until you can feel it wants to really pull out of your hand, then let her rip. Careful on the sticks but - as I said, it's pretty lively even with small control surface movements. So be ready to catch any over-compensation...

Enjoy

BJ

PS - CG is where those two little pin-holes are in your top pic.

My surfaces are set up this way:

Top hole on the aileron servo horn second hole in on the aileron surface horn - low-rates 60% throw, 10% Expo - high-rates 100% throw, linear Expo.

Second hole in on the elevator servo, second hole in on the elevator surface horn - low-rates 85% throw, 10% Expo - high-rates 100% throw, linear Expo.

Once you've got it up and flying and doing some nice easy circuits, power on out of a dive and hold it level flat stick about 50ft above the ground - then pull dead-vertical right above your head and flick high-rates on the aileron and give it full roll and watch it spin like a top towards the stars

BJ

ok thanks BJ

what rates are you using on yours mate?

Also is there a way to limit the throttle on the dx6i with a switch?

Im definitely gonna take it easy on this little bird until i get used to it. I feel so nervous but so excited to fly this little rocket.

I forgot to mention also that I finally took my larger hawk 3d out this morning and it did not fly well at all. I have the lipo mounted on the wing. Its almost level with the leading edge of the wing. Im going to try and mount the lipo up closer to the motor and see how it flies then. It does have alot more power with the 3s lipo but the roll rate is not great with this one. If i cant get it flying right then ill flog this one off too. HAHAHAHAHa.

looks like i have the aileron servos set up the same as you BJ but i have the elevator servo set up on the outer hole on the servo arm and on the closest hole on the control horn side.

So it looks like i will have to use lower rates then you do. I like to use alot more expo then that as well to start out with.

So just use a little over half throttle to launch and then a slight toss yah?

Im sure ill maiden it fine but it kinda stresses me out knowing how much power this little thing has.

BTW had to put the esc up the back there as it felt the CG was out with it having it up the front. The orange RX is actually under the ESC. Do you think it will get enough airflow with it being there?

Its a 40a plush turnigy which i think is a bit of overkill on a 3s setup and it shouldnt get that warm anyways.

I might chuck it on the wattmeter soon and see if i can make sense of it all and see what it comes up too.

I'd say somewhere around 3/4 throttle would be more the go on launch.

Just crank the throttle up to full power to get the feel of how much grunt flat-out has, then come back to zero and then keep increasing it until you can feel a good amount of pull - which is usually between about half and 3/4 stick.

What I try to do nowadays is keep the wings as level as possible while getting it up there pretty quickly - doesn't matter if it's ugly to start with, but if you've get some height pretty quickly you buy some time to recover. Be ready for it to drop the nose a tad and fire out towards the left. Bit of right aileron and some up-ele and you should be good to go. If you've got enough power on, you should be able to basically drop-release it with a gentle forward nudge if you're underhand launching it - if the power is up enough, it's going to want to fly anyways, so you don't need to try to javelin the thing out of your hand. Just be ready for the left roll/turn and nose-down.

Re a throttle-switch in a 6Xi, wouldn't have a clue. Just don't push the stick too high during launching and you should be ok. I find that there's not a lot of difference in engine sound on mine from just under 3/4 to full stick anyways, though it still seems to have more pull from 3/4 to 10/10 (which is a bit weird).

The 40A ESC will handle 3S no problems btw.

I was wondering where you Rx was - under the Speedie you say? Hmmm... be careful - particularly with an Orange Rx. Speedies are pretty noisy things as far as RF goes, so I hope you don't lose signal. I just jammed my ESC in the slot provided in the front bay - next to the LiPo. Check your CG, and if it's hinting tail-heavy then I'd be moving the ESC into the slot and freeing-up the Rx.

BJ

Soooooo....

Where's the maiden report???

BJ

havent flown it yet mate. Its been too windy up here in NSW. Hopefully over the weekend i can fly it. I think i might have to CA the back section on as just removing and putting on the canopy has made the tape come loss.

What sort of flight times should i expect with a 3s 1000mah nano tech lipo? I dont want it to hit the LVC in mid flight.

I just bought a HTC HD2 mobile phone so im pretty tapped out for now. So ill have to fly what i have for now.

Depends on how 'flat out' you fly it.

I'd set my timer to 3 mins.

Land it - see how much power you have left, and adjust your flight times from there.

But remember, you're going to fly a lot more WOT once you've got it sussed

BJ

ok thanks BJ

I really cant wait to fly it. Lets hope this wind settles down.

Im really hoping someone makes a model for this little beast on realflight soon.

Im really having alot of fun with my mcpx lately and i plan on getting some upgrades for it soon.

You didnt end up getting a mcpx did you BJ?

Im starting to think i could get a blade 400 and start finally progressing in helis now as well.

Nah... still haven't got an mCPx.

Dunno if I ever will - I have my Copter-X 450 if I feel the need to get into 3D Heli. Although, granted, the mCPx would be a better machine to learn on - given its resilience and lower cost-factor if it does end up ploughing in too hard.

That's the thing with the 450 - a "mild" crash and the top-end is rooted. Blades, flybar/rods, feathering shafts, main shafts... *aaackkkk*

Now get that 'Bear in the Air - y'hear?!?!

BJ

yes sir

over and out

wheres meebz?

Me is ere ... Gots a head ache from readin & thinkin too hard but me is ere

I wanted to pick up the new 3DHS EPP Edge that's about to be released for my birthday late next month but I'm going out of town from the 14th onwards so anything I order needs to arrive before then.

Trouble is, 3DHS is moving to a new site and all shipments are ceased until their set up so they're not serving customers and their stockist have run out of stock too so it looks like I can't get that plane which I'm pissed about.

I then start lurkin for another plane to get and decided on the Twisted Hobbys Xtra Slick only to find out after stacks of research that they don't ship to Aus.

Arrgggghhhh NO ******* WANTS MY MONEY. Very frsutrating.

I've posted some chit up in the forums so I'll see what responses I get but at the moment it looks like I'll need to pick something ELSE out.

yeah im thinking i might ring the guy i got the hyperion sniper off and see if he still has the home 900mm sbach he made. Ill offer him $50 and see what he says.

Sorry to hear about your plane troubles meebo. I would order one of those kristiania kits from HK. They fly so nicely.

Im thinking i could also goto my local hobby shop and finally offer them money for there tech one mini katana. Now i have 1000mah 3s lipos it would fly so nicely.

So many decisions and not enough money