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Old 03-04-2006, 03:51 PM
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why am i so excited...am i the last person in the electric flight universe to find out, that instead of paying extra to mr hacker for the matt-style ESC with dynamic breaking you can now download that feature FREE of charge to nearly ANY castle phoenix PHX ESC via the USB/castlelink-cable and their homepage/download. get the version 1.23, upload it to your ESC, and, voila, you can slow down until your brain ain't behind the plane no more. cool

it even works on the small PHX10 for indoor use, where it's mostly needed, because the slick depron sheets tend to speed towards mother earth faster than you can even think about that two-point-roll.

start with setting the brake to 20%, zero to 0,2 sec delay and medium to fast response. you'll love it!

roger
Old 03-06-2006, 12:51 PM
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Hello Roger,
It does work beautifully, doesn't it! I have found my percentages on F3A planes to be more like 25%. How big a percentage do you use on your indoor plane? I can't imagine that it is much, before the prop stops altogether.
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:39 PM
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hi dean!

with the small axi 2204/54 and 9 x 3,8 APC Slow, it should be working fine at 10% on a 160gr (around 6 oz in old money) bipe, on a bigger prop you might use more. but even on my large 20 lbs raven with the geared 2215 neumotor, apc 26x15/E and the PHX110HV, the 10% has prooven enough. maybe you guys at castle want to change the percentage to be free, so we can start fidling around with 9 or 11%...!

so happy, btw, to get at least one response, i was getting afraid that either it's already common knowledge or nobody is interested in the real fine things in e-life i know that in racing, breaking is for sissies, but in aerobatics, it's surely separating the boys from the gentlemen[>:]

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THAT dean pappas? flying models pattern column? love it! wow!
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Sorry Roger... the lack of response is because most of us are flying Hacker/Jeti ESCs. For now anyway. Sounds like a cool feature, would love to play with that.
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so happy, btw, to get at least one response, i was getting afraid that either it's already common knowledge or nobody is interested in the real fine things in e-life i know that in racing, breaking is for sissies, but in aerobatics, it's surely separating the boys from the gentlemen[>:]

cheers

roger
Hi Roger

Most of the ESC's have breaking on them now, I have been using the Schulze with break since September and Bernd B. has been using it for at least a year now. One advantage the Schulze offers is its fully proportional and variable in flight from the TX, so you can have as much or as little break as you want, anytime you want it.

The breaking software is modified from that used in RC cars.

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ya all!
thanks for the feedback, i'm fully aware of the fact that there has been dynamic breaking kit around for a while, wolfgang and roland matt running the standard pattern set-up are "neighbors", and some other more or less expensive equipment can do the trick, too. but i was really amazed by the fact that now you can load down free breaking software for a 30$-ESC weighting 1/4 oz, and you bought that 2 years ago. that's what i call a) effective engineering and most of all b) customer awareness. i don't get nothing for free from mr castillo, btw...[&o] bottom line: get out your old PHX and beef it up instead of paying 100$ MORE for the new gen ESC which has a yellow dot costing a millionth of a cent on it's face. fraud? ya bet!

roger
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Hello Roger,
WoW! I have three readers in Switzerland! Cool ...
Yes the bunch at Castle sure are doing things right: even the variable brake software was "shipped" as an update on the web. It is the 21st century, after all.
I should have said that my outrunner setup (AXI 5330/18) and others, like the Pletty 30-10 seem to brake best with the percentage set at 25%.
So the gear-reductions need less? Given the mechanical advantage, i guess that makes sense. If you get a chance, try to see what percentage is on the hairy edge of causing prop stoppage in a vertical dive. It's about 40% with the outrunners. Thanks for the info on the inddor stuff. I haven't set the brake on that one, yet, as I have pulled the receiver out of it, in order to do electric flight tests in my friend's control-line Stunt ship. We are playing with the helicopter governor function in the Castle 45, and it's much less tedious using an RC radio to change RPM settings.

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Dean
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I've been using the brake function for about 6 months now on CC10, 25, 80, 45HV, and 85HV.

I'm running between 15-20% on little stuff - Eflite 370 and 400s, Hacker A20M and A20L, Lens, and AXI 2204. On a B50-11S 6.7:1, 8% is good. On the Pletty 30-10, 20% is good. I usually run 0 or 0.1 sec delay, with fast or very fast ramp.

Certainly is nice to have the same software available free for all CC ESCs. Neatest thing about it so far for flying F3A is that the same brake setting seems to be just right for both vertical downlines and 45 downlines, owing to the design of the brake circuit which applies a variable amount of brake based on the available braking power.

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Dave Lockhart
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