Saito FG-60R3
04-02-2017, 06:15 AM
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There is some natural priming action due to the pumped carb. A finger over the exhaust won't work the same way as with a non-pumped suction carb like the glow Saito engines have. I use an electric starter, first start of the day takes a couple of seconds to draw fuel, subsequently it lights off on the first bump.
04-02-2017, 11:49 AM
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Hi fellow FG-60 flyers
I took the dive and bought two MRS ring collectors (fg0 and fg84) from ebay here in europe two weeks ago. Being about €100.- cheaper each than importing a keleo I thought "what could possibly go wrong..."
Truth be told, nothing. They are really top notch and very clean craftsmanship. I contacted the seller and turns out its a small company in germany that makes them.
Very happy with mine and a nice alternative to keleo.
Now, I am not connected to this company in any way (bought my two rings at full retail), I did however allow him to use my videos for his shop. Just so that theres no misunderstandings here :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtD0Gthyupw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL95MV-v6I Rev
I took the dive and bought two MRS ring collectors (fg0 and fg84) from ebay here in europe two weeks ago. Being about €100.- cheaper each than importing a keleo I thought "what could possibly go wrong..."
Truth be told, nothing. They are really top notch and very clean craftsmanship. I contacted the seller and turns out its a small company in germany that makes them.
Very happy with mine and a nice alternative to keleo.
Now, I am not connected to this company in any way (bought my two rings at full retail), I did however allow him to use my videos for his shop. Just so that theres no misunderstandings here :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtD0Gthyupw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL95MV-v6I Rev
04-03-2017, 07:39 AM
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Hi fellow FG-60 flyers
I took the dive and bought two MRS ring collectors (fg0 and fg84) from ebay here in europe two weeks ago. Being about €100.- cheaper each than importing a keleo I thought "what could possibly go wrong..."
Truth be told, nothing. They are really top notch and very clean craftsmanship. I contacted the seller and turns out its a small company in germany that makes them.
Very happy with mine and a nice alternative to keleo.
Now, I am not connected to this company in any way (bought my two rings at full retail), I did however allow him to use my videos for his shop. Just so that theres no misunderstandings here :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtD0Gthyupw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL95MV-v6I Rev
I took the dive and bought two MRS ring collectors (fg0 and fg84) from ebay here in europe two weeks ago. Being about €100.- cheaper each than importing a keleo I thought "what could possibly go wrong..."
Truth be told, nothing. They are really top notch and very clean craftsmanship. I contacted the seller and turns out its a small company in germany that makes them.
Very happy with mine and a nice alternative to keleo.
Now, I am not connected to this company in any way (bought my two rings at full retail), I did however allow him to use my videos for his shop. Just so that theres no misunderstandings here :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtD0Gthyupw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL95MV-v6I Rev
04-04-2017, 07:08 PM
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04-05-2017, 01:43 AM
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04-05-2017, 05:28 AM
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sorry for the late reply. The sellers Name on ebay is meier_ringschalldaempfer
http://www.ebay.de/itm/182510347467
Rgds,
Philipp
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04-06-2017, 06:46 AM
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CRG... From what I can see on mine from experiments I did over the last few days, this engine will draw fuel with the exhaust sealed just like any other Saito. Mid throttle, ignition off, thumb over the exhaust, give it 2-3 turns in normal rotation, throttle to idle, ignition on, cold started every time with no fussing.
04-06-2017, 07:42 AM
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Hi Guys,
sorry for the late reply. The sellers Name on ebay is meier_ringschalldaempfer
http://www.ebay.de/itm/182510347467
Rgds,
Philipp
sorry for the late reply. The sellers Name on ebay is meier_ringschalldaempfer
http://www.ebay.de/itm/182510347467
Rgds,
Philipp
04-06-2017, 07:43 AM
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CRG... From what I can see on mine from experiments I did over the last few days, this engine will draw fuel with the exhaust sealed just like any other Saito. Mid throttle, ignition off, thumb over the exhaust, give it 2-3 turns in normal rotation, throttle to idle, ignition on, cold started every time with no fussing.
04-06-2017, 07:48 AM
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Well folks, I finally got around to messing with those primer bulbs this afternoon. I can't say as they work as well as I expected problem being this type of carb with a rotating barrel. You can't pressurize the fuel in the line (which is what your doing) without having somewhere for the air and fuel to go. In order to do that the barrel has to be rotated to at least 1/2 throttle or so, but then you wind up dribbling fuel all over the place out the throat, which I don't think is a good idea, at least not to excess. Granted, the lines I used were pretty long, it just being a experiment using a primer. It would work better with shorter lines, but I'm still concerned about the dribbling situation.
04-06-2017, 08:12 AM
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I probably should note that I'm using a 2 line setup from the fuel tank, so when I'm fueling, I'm also filling the line to the carb, so I don't have much air in the lines. When I was "playing" with the primer bulbs, they'd work fine in just a jug of gas, didn't work so hot in the planes fuel system. One reason is the air has to have some place to go, ie through the carb, but you also get some fuel. Bottom line is you get a big mess with the possibility of forcing fuel into the engine... big no no there. Note also when I'm fueling, or defueling for that matter, the barrel of the carb must be closed, so I've set up my radio to handle that.
04-06-2017, 09:15 AM
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Just tried again to choke/prime by covering the exhaust and flipping the prop, fuel line empty. It does not draw fuel, throttle open or closed. Looks like the best way is indeed building some kind of choke to cover the carb, blowing into the vent or a 2 line fuel setup with a T. The latter does require to close the carb completely though or fuel will run out of the carb during fueling. I think I will eventually just go with the T.
04-06-2017, 11:23 AM
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Well having a two line with a tee definitely puts gas to the carb without fail! Maybe I was just drawing a snort of raw gas into the intake, but it sure worked good yesterday especially on a cold start. Anyway, by time I got done I'd had it buttoned up with baffles and cowl and ready to fly except I need to shift the battery to the rear for CG purposes. The Saito wound up being about 1.4 lbs heavier than the G 62 it's replacing.
04-06-2017, 12:23 PM
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For what it is worth I set it up with a three line system. One to the carb, one to the Keleo exhaust which is also the overflow, and one fill line to the tank. It works just fine with no mess or fuel going anywhere I don't want it. No T
s in the system just three lines to the fuel tank.
Rick H.
s in the system just three lines to the fuel tank.
Rick H.
04-06-2017, 02:22 PM
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For what it is worth I set it up with a three line system. One to the carb, one to the Keleo exhaust which is also the overflow, and one fill line to the tank. It works just fine with no mess or fuel going anywhere I don't want it. No T
s in the system just three lines to the fuel tank.
Rick H.
s in the system just three lines to the fuel tank.
Rick H.
04-06-2017, 07:10 PM
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To choke it since there is not much room between the carb and the firewall we took a flat piece of metal with sticky foam on one side and covered the intake with that. With throttle wide open it seems to work well. We choke it by pulling it through instead of flipping it and of course with ignition off. Never ran one of these before, it's a very new experience.
Rick H.
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04-07-2017, 11:28 AM
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