DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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While I was running mine I noticed a lot of air bubbles going into the carb. It seemed to take more time than normal to pump the fuel out of the tank,like it was pulling in air some where. I pulled the tank, the supply side did not have a good seal. I built up a spot on tube with solder and clamped the flexible tube on each side of the spot.( inside the tank also) I just ran it again and it seems to be fine. The holidays and weather have put a crimp in the flying.
Our weather has been on the cool side for us,I will give it more time to warm up. Here two or three days below 50 is a real cold wave.
Our weather has been on the cool side for us,I will give it more time to warm up. Here two or three days below 50 is a real cold wave.
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jtflys thanks,
It is an early serial and as was mentioned previously, hopefully a one off.
Going by this forum thats two mechanical failures reported "that i know of",although interestingly,both at the bigend area.
Although,not bad for a new model/design going by the number reported here in service performing well without issue.
Cheers
It is an early serial and as was mentioned previously, hopefully a one off.
Going by this forum thats two mechanical failures reported "that i know of",although interestingly,both at the bigend area.
Although,not bad for a new model/design going by the number reported here in service performing well without issue.
Cheers
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I let it "warm up" for like 5 minutes. I can run it at any throttle position for as long as you want, and it still is too cool in this weather. The crankcase barely gets even warm.
I let it "warm up" for like 5 minutes. I can run it at any throttle position for as long as you want, and it still is too cool in this weather. The crankcase barely gets even warm.
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From: Bismarck, ND
I have wrapped aluminium foil around the engine's cylinder when it's really cold outside. Running an engine too cool is almost as bad as overheating.
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CaptinJohn - I like the sock idea. Would you recommend that for a 50cc gasser, too? Or just these smaller engines? And at what temp would you recommend we start using the sock? Thanks.
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I have a snowblower 2 cycle engine. It works in all kindof frigid weather. It is 25 years old andstill going st rong. I have an RCGf 15 that I put a hundred flights last year off the snow.
It was flown in 12 and15 degree weather. Still runs like new.
It was flown in 12 and15 degree weather. Still runs like new.
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From: New Delhi, INDIA
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Well, my -20 flamed out on me in flight today, first time in about 42 flights. It was running really well up until then, was even easy to start and had great throttle response, but I think I iced up the carb. Someone at the club that has 40+ years flying experience flying (RC and full scale from 152's to F-4 and 767) said it was perfect conditions for it. It was like 40F and was very foggy earlier, but with the melting snow it was still like a mist over the field. Oh well, I aimed for a snow bank and put it down fast. Any further and it would have been in the woods/river, but I did not have enough altitude to do anything else. No biggle, just 2 new nylon l/g screws and a new Vess 17-6 was the only damage.
Well, my -20 flamed out on me in flight today, first time in about 42 flights. It was running really well up until then, was even easy to start and had great throttle response, but I think I iced up the carb. Someone at the club that has 40+ years flying experience flying (RC and full scale from 152's to F-4 and 767) said it was perfect conditions for it. It was like 40F and was very foggy earlier, but with the melting snow it was still like a mist over the field. Oh well, I aimed for a snow bank and put it down fast. Any further and it would have been in the woods/river, but I did not have enough altitude to do anything else. No biggle, just 2 new nylon l/g screws and a new Vess 17-6 was the only damage.
Just noticed that you use nylon screws for the L/G - any particular reason why you use nylon instead of steel ?
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From: serpongwest java, INDONESIA
Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
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Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
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Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
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At 10+ pounds will the DLE-20 be enough engine for this plane?
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I can tell you that the 17-10 is too much prop for the CRRC 26. You will get better performance with a 17-7 or a 18-6 Zoar or equal type of prop.
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From: La Porte,
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Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
Loads of other hot-links to info on this engine in that post as well!
So, yes, you'd be better of with this DLE20cc.
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I have a 70" Revolver with the DLE20, about 10 lbs - very similar to your P47 - and use an APC 16x8 - excellent performance. But if you're going for speed it seems a 15x10 or 15x12 works better than a 16x8. And there's a good video on Youtube from a guy "knockoffs" with the same setup, but using a Xoar 15x8 - very nice performance. It's called "DLE20cc and Revolver 70".
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From: New Delhi, INDIA
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They act like a fuse in case I have a dead stick like on Sunday. That way nothing except the screws need to replaced.
They act like a fuse in case I have a dead stick like on Sunday. That way nothing except the screws need to replaced.
Thanx for your tip anyway...
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Sandy jain
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Is there a limit on the size model thatitis safe to use nylon screws? Ilike this suggestion but would prefer to have as much Info as possible before running home to change all my landing gear screws.
I have personally had the ubdercarriage of a 60 size stick rip out because the model hit a hose on landing before safely coming to rest.
I have personally had the ubdercarriage of a 60 size stick rip out because the model hit a hose on landing before safely coming to rest.
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If you are going the nylon screw route for the landing gear, then I advise that you forget about using any wheelpants at all, because if (when) the gear lets go, then the pants usually go right through the underside of the wings and with my luck and experience, the top also.
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From: winston,
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You get alot more airflow off an airplane engine vs a weedeater, chainsaw.
many full scale planes have movable lovers that either restrict airflow or open it up.
Look at the p-40
many full scale planes have movable lovers that either restrict airflow or open it up.
Look at the p-40
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From: Calimesa,
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Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
Hi, need some help.
I have world model 70 inch P47 and CRRC GF26i V2 on it and hawk wooden prop 17 x 10 and it seems like not enough power with this engine. I plan to replace the engine with DLE 20. Is it much power with this engine for this kind of plane.
Thanks, any comments appreciate
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