Notices
Glow Engines Discuss RC glow engines

Welcome to Club SAITO !

Old 01-26-2018, 09:26 AM
  #35501  
blw
My Feedback: (3)
 
blw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Opelika, AL
Posts: 9,447
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Pete- that warms the heart. You done real good on those. And, on a Kawasaki too. To me, it would wasted on a Harley. Hey, that Indian looks good too.

All this talk about the 100 and 115 is interesting. We've been talking about that spot since the 82 came out. I think Saito may be making a few marketing mistakes, but who knows. I'm not the one to count their pennies at night,
Old 01-26-2018, 11:48 AM
  #35502  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,002
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Which has more power and which type of plane would perform better. A Saito 120 and a OS Gemini 120 II? While the Gemini would not work in a Mustang, it may work well in a Corsair. My original thought was a 20CC gas, which I have, but it's a Warbird, and Warbirds don't go EEEEEHHHHpopopoeeeehhhh, they have a deep rumble.
Old 01-26-2018, 08:20 PM
  #35503  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by acdii
Which has more power and which type of plane would perform better. A Saito 120 and a OS Gemini 120 II? While the Gemini would not work in a Mustang, it may work well in a Corsair. My original thought was a 20CC gas, which I have, but it's a Warbird, and Warbirds don't go EEEEEHHHHpopopoeeeehhhh, they have a deep rumble.
I'm there too, I have a VQ 60 size P-40 (62" span), and I also have a Zenoah g20 (it's a BH Hanson modified Heli engine, it's never been started), people have told me to put it in my P-40, well to do that I would have to cut a hole in the side of it's Cowl for a muffler, even if it was a Pitts muffler I would have to cut a hole on it's side, and another hole on the other side for the Carb, "not going to do it !", I would not mind a 2 stroke, but the big glow 90s drink more fuel and are loud, Gassers are heavy, so I wait for the Saito 125 to go on sale, but I am now wondering if Saito's prices are going to go up ??? that would be just my luck.

as for the 115 being dropped, I have been wondering IF something new is coming ?? to add, the pickings on Horizon's Saito page are get low, so here too I'm wondering if something new is coming

Jim

Last edited by the Wasp; 01-26-2018 at 08:30 PM.
Old 01-26-2018, 08:26 PM
  #35504  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by acdii
Which has more power and which type of plane would perform better. A Saito 120 and a OS Gemini 120 II? While the Gemini would not work in a Mustang, it may work well in a Corsair. My original thought was a 20CC gas, which I have, but it's a Warbird, and Warbirds don't go EEEEEHHHHpopopoeeeehhhh, they have a deep rumble.
I think both engines are great engines, yet I would think the Saito 120 (single cylinder) would be a bit more powerful, and swing a bit larger prop,, but you would not put an opposed twin in a Mustang,, so put the twin in a Corsair.

just my thoughts on it.

Jim
Old 01-26-2018, 10:58 PM
  #35505  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I'd go for the saito fa120 too.By the time you get fifteen gallons of fuel through the saito 125 so it's run in and then tune it on the bench the balsa kit will have rotted away.

Thank you barry it's a pleasure doing those jobs.When it's finished i'll post a photo tho i'm not keen on what the owner has designed re finishing colours.

ps dave alls well that ends well,we should have a group discussion about the relative merits of the closely grouped saito 100/115...cough ah 125 it's all good fun,i can take a teasing as well as the rest but watch out for sr...you could end up looking like a brown house mouse compared to his enraged next door neighbours feral cat.As for those awful awful harleys i like the ducati big v twin sound better PLUS! i've seen the harley motorcycle racing teams pit girls eeeeek and here's what the ducati girls look like...
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	wdw_babe2 - Copy.jpg
Views:	43
Size:	184.5 KB
ID:	2252329  
Old 01-27-2018, 01:48 AM
  #35506  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Sr here's our interpretation of the pushbike laws here...
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	25395781_10212537879894898_5749531364114354894_n cricket bat.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	47.9 KB
ID:	2252330  
Old 01-27-2018, 08:43 PM
  #35507  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

see what I have been wondering if it would work on a Saito,,, I don't see why not if it is mounted correctly

https://www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXZTC9&P=PU

Jim
Old 01-27-2018, 08:59 PM
  #35508  
blw
My Feedback: (3)
 
blw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Opelika, AL
Posts: 9,447
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

You did see the price, Jim?
Old 01-27-2018, 09:04 PM
  #35509  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

yes I did see the price, it too is over priced, but it's for a Saito, so it would be worth it if it worked LOL

Jim
Old 01-27-2018, 10:43 PM
  #35510  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

wow


Jim
Old 01-27-2018, 11:16 PM
  #35511  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by the Wasp
see what I have been wondering if it would work on a Saito,,, I don't see why not if it is mounted correctly

https://www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXZTC9&P=PU

Jim
It's an OS part jim and bound to cause bad luck and corrosion to any saito engine it touches.
Old 01-27-2018, 11:22 PM
  #35512  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by the Wasp
Flown very nicely off a bumpy airstrip don't you think? and should be throttled back to scale speed.Almost makes you think a saito 82 would do the job.

ps i liked the girl on the fuse surrounded by rivets
Old 01-28-2018, 12:11 PM
  #35513  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
I'm looking for suggestions from the Saito brain trust we have in this thread. The patient is an old Saito .80 that hasn't been run in sometime sitting inverted in a 1/5th scale Cub. I can get it started long enough to hiccup and shed it's prop even with double prop nuts. After the last try she wouldn't even start. I prefer not to be pulling the engine out, its a major undertaking, since I built a box firewall to move the engine back rather than extend the nose out to make the engine fit.
Fly, the earliest Saito .80 had 15.5 to 1 compression and demands respect, it will kick the prop off if it even thinks you'resetting it lean. When leaning the HS needle, sneak up on the peak as in one click, pause, one more and pause. At some point one of the clicks will slow it a little, that's as far as you dare go.

http://sceptreflight.com/Model%20Eng...o%20FA-80.html

Last edited by Hobbsy; 01-28-2018 at 12:12 PM. Reason: Add content
Old 01-28-2018, 12:20 PM
  #35514  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Flown very nicely off a bumpy airstrip don't you think?
yes,
I like his landing, in how he squirreled it around just before it landed, cool


and should be throttled back to scale speed.Almost makes you think a saito 82 would do the job.
in that video he had an APC 14x8 on it, I'm betting he was burning 30% Nitro,, so, if a 100 single would fly my P-40 at those speeds on 20% with an APC 14x8 I would be happy big time, I like the "big air" stuff

ps i liked the girl on the fuse surrounded by rivets
I hear she likes Turbo Headers

Jim
Old 01-28-2018, 12:27 PM
  #35515  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

BTW, I ordered my Retracts Thursday night, when I get them I will measure and order the struts

Jim
Old 01-28-2018, 12:36 PM
  #35516  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

OF, go back to the video, listen, the guy has a whistler on his plane, it's not too loud, sounds cool

Jim
Old 01-28-2018, 01:55 PM
  #35517  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

I just snatched a NIB Saito .56 for under 200 bucks, I love .56's so now I have two. This one is a late white box model with a G on the right lug. I'll report soon. All tools and instructions included.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Saito 56 box.JPG
Views:	30
Size:	3.90 MB
ID:	2252470   Click image for larger version

Name:	Saito 56 nib.JPG
Views:	33
Size:	4.05 MB
ID:	2252471  

Last edited by Hobbsy; 01-28-2018 at 01:58 PM.
Old 01-28-2018, 06:28 PM
  #35518  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,002
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Just got my 56 all buttoned up in the T-clips and ready to re-maiden it. What would be the best prop for it in the T-Clips? Right now I have a 12x8 Top Flight wood prop for it.
Old 01-28-2018, 08:07 PM
  #35519  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

I just snatched a NIB Saito .56
hummm ???, a 56,, 56 times 2 is 112, hey Dave, to bad there isn't a left and a right side 56 Cylinders, I could build a 112

always thinking

Jim
Old 01-28-2018, 11:17 PM
  #35520  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by the Wasp
hummm ???, a 56,, 56 times 2 is 112, hey Dave, to bad there isn't a left and a right side 56 Cylinders, I could build a 112

always thinking

Jim
Careful jim

The whistle on that mk9 spit is hard to hear i like the sound of the 100t to much.Reminds me of an elderly club member who had a whistle stuck with velcro to an undercarriage leg on saito powered high wing tailwheel trainer.Said he was tone deaf in the lower sound register(standing next to to many harleys?)so had a hard time hearing his saito in flight and that's why he put the whistle on it.Every flight looked like a test flight and unexpected low dives over the strip made that whistle scream.When he was'nt looking in the pits i used to stick a small bit of chewing gum on the front to quieten it down but he sprung me so then i unstuck the whistle and changed the angle of attack slightly but he cottoned on to that too.Hav'nt seen the old coot for years,club lore has it that a few member got together and killed him.
Old 01-29-2018, 03:39 AM
  #35521  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by the Wasp
hummm ???, a 56,, 56 times 2 is 112, hey Dave, to bad there isn't a left and a right side 56 Cylinders, I could build a 112

always thinking

Jim
I guess Saito did that with the 1.30 in the making of the 1.82, two .91 cylinders and ended up with a slightly lighter engine by .7 oz, it's not much not but still a positive.

Last edited by Hobbsy; 01-29-2018 at 03:43 AM. Reason: Addcontent
Old 01-29-2018, 10:02 AM
  #35522  
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kerrville, TX
Posts: 2,127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Fly, the earliest Saito .80 had 15.5 to 1 compression and demands respect, it will kick the prop off if it even thinks you'resetting it lean. When leaning the HS needle, sneak up on the peak as in one click, pause, one more and pause. At some point one of the clicks will slow it a little, that's as far as you dare go.
I have a early Saito .80 in an Ace Skydancer 60, 72" WS. No way I'd fly it that lean. It needs to be backed off at least 200 RPM from peak, maybe more.

​​​​​​​CR
Old 01-29-2018, 10:43 AM
  #35523  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Sorry Charley, I didn't mean to leave the impression that I'd fly it there, but like mentioned above I use about 150 rich to fly. That's plenty, no sense hosing down the weeds with fuel that isn't accomplishing anything. When using a regulator,I only use about 50 rpm rich.
Old 01-29-2018, 11:05 AM
  #35524  
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kerrville, TX
Posts: 2,127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Smile

Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Sorry Charley, I didn't mean to leave the impression that I'd fly it there, but like mentioned above I use about 150 rich to fly. That's plenty, no sense hosing down the weeds with fuel that isn't accomplishing anything. When using a regulator,I only use about 50 rpm rich.
Oh well, a little unburned fuel helps cool the engine.

CR
Old 01-30-2018, 02:47 AM
  #35525  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by acdii
Just got my 56 all buttoned up in the T-clips and ready to re-maiden it. What would be the best prop for it in the T-Clips? Right now I have a 12x8 Top Flight wood prop for it.
That's a waste of a good looking saito engine,putting it in something that looks like it's been shot down twice already.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Manage Preferences Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.