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Old 02-14-2019, 08:12 AM
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Thatís is how I have the FA 80 mounted in my pattern plane. Perfect actually and allows acces to the plug. But I want this all inside the cowl. Letís see how it goes
Old 02-14-2019, 08:31 AM
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Do you really need the "muffler " ? I have used straight pipes with home made , 45į and 90į elbows for such installations that worked well. Light and compact.

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It was 14.00 and seems OK. No donít need the muffler. And I havd to use the original pipe to mount this one. Now I have the other end to make something out of. I can weld up something cool .
Old 02-14-2019, 09:06 AM
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this is my motorcycle. It the fastest 250 ninja in the standing mile @123 mph
Old 02-14-2019, 09:15 AM
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Nice, Is that gasoline fueled?
Old 02-14-2019, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Nice, Is that gasoline fueled?
110 octane and nitrous
Old 02-14-2019, 11:09 AM
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New Saito FA82 mounted -45į in Phoenix 46-55 size Sbach 342. Remote glow adaptor is on this side too although hard to see. The other side of the cowl is clean. There is a dupron plug over the cowl inlet opening on one side and a dupron angled baffle from the top of the cowl inlet to the top of the cylinder on the other. Should be a hoot.

Sorry for the crappy cellphone pic.

Lonnie

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Old 02-14-2019, 02:00 PM
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I have one mounted in a spectrum
Old 02-14-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerX9623

I have one mounted in a spectrum
The color scheme on those is cool looking. Is that an 80 or 82? Looks like a fairly course pitch prop on there.

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Old 02-14-2019, 05:35 PM
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Nice set ups, thanks for the pictures.

I received a nice Valentines Day gift in the mail today. I can no longer say that I've never owned a Saito 180, it sure has some serious compression. That's a very good sign, it has an A on the right so, it's either a first run or second run if the first did not have an initial. Mighty happy. The bearings are really smooth. Thank you good friend.
Old 02-14-2019, 06:08 PM
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Some guys have all the luck! Looks like the "Improper Landing" wasn't too hard on it. What's it going to power?

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Old 02-14-2019, 06:14 PM
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Improper landing, unknown to me. It's in great shape.
Old 02-14-2019, 06:34 PM
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In regards to the black plastic back plates some of the Saitos have. Is it necessary to replace them with metal ones? I donít really understand to problems they create.
Old 02-14-2019, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Quikturn
In regards to the black plastic back plates some of the Saitos have. Is it necessary to replace them with metal ones? I donít really understand to problems they create.
My preowned 82 had a plastic backplate, I replaced it with the metal one used on later releases. The first releases with thinner plastic back plates were reported to crack easily when screws were tightened and also warp from heat. The warping allowed the intake tube to pull away from the intake port and cause leaking in some cases. Saito did produce a thicker tougher plastic backplate to address problems with the earlier thinner ones but eventually discontinued them and went to the metal ones.

Note: The plastic back plates did not utilize a gasket and are more shallow than the metal ones. The metal ones require the use of a gasket or they will crash into the crank pin, at least that is the case with my 82.

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Old 02-14-2019, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
My preowned 82 had a plastic backplate, I replaced it with the metal one used on later releases. The first releases with thinner plastic back plates were reported to crack easily when screws were tightened and also warp from heat. The warping allowed the intake tube to pull away from the intake port and cause leaking in some cases. Saito did produce a thicker tougher plastic backplate to address problems with the earlier thinner ones but eventually discontinued them and went to the metal ones.

Note: The plastic back plates did not utilize a gasket and are more shallow than the metal ones. The metal ones require the use of a gasket or they will crash into the crank pin, at least that is the case with my 82.
OK, that makes more sense. I heard about the warping issue but then I thought who cares because thereís an open vent to the crankcase anyways. But if it moves the intake tube I can see how that can become a problem. Thanks Glowgeek!

So do the later, thicker plastic back plates still have the warping problem then?
Old 02-14-2019, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Quikturn

So do the later, thicker plastic back plates still have the warping problem then?
Only the thinner first release warped from what I've read. The thicker plastic back plates only suffered from cracks and stripped threads from over tightening screws from what I read. There was no way for me to tell which version plastic back plate I had so I swapped it to metal.

BTW, only aftermarket engine gasket sets are available for the 82. If swapping to a metal backplate you can make your own back plate gasket as I did, just make sure the gasket material is .007"-.009" thick.

Lonnie

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Old 02-15-2019, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Quikturn
Since we’re showing hangar queens. Here my 2001 Honda VFR Interceptor. Love this bike but hardly had a chance to ride it last year. I may have to sell it. ��

Jesse, is that a YS muffler on your Saito 82?


Quicky that's a very nice vfr 800/1200? i had a 93 vfr750 with the gear driven cams and an after market pipe,they sound awesome.And the famous author bill bryson is from your town,that's gotta put a smile on your dial

Nice looking planes and saito engine installs lonnie and racer,look fast standing still.Gary nice rounded inner shoulder on your 90 degree exhaust adapter,it's a common shear point on acc one's when people over tighten them.Nice score on the fa180 dave,please don't paint the seal green

Lonnie good run down on the plastic back plates re fa82's,i think more fa72 owners had problems.I have two old fa82 with plastic back plates and no problems,one new 'low profile cam housing' fa82 which comes with the new back plate.Playboy glossy mag covers make great gaskets.

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Old 02-15-2019, 03:27 AM
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(Internet photo of an 82 Honda CB900f Super Sport). My first and only road bike that I bought in a crate in 86. Rode it everywhere for five years, rain or shine. I wasn't afraid to die when I sold it, I just wasn't ready to die. That elderly lady was looking right at me when she suddenly pulled out. I decided to buy into 4 wheels and more metal as idiot insurance.

I've had quite a few dirt bikes over the years. Still riding my old 01 Honda XR250R around the farm here.

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Old 02-15-2019, 04:07 AM
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After owning 75 plus Britbikes and 25 Italian bikes, riding several hundred thousand miles, year round as primary transport; seen those little old ladies a few hundred times. And far worse!
As a volunteer fireman got to see a few riders who were unprepared in those situations. Idiots drive cars and truck, that is for certain.!
Mans got to know his limitations, Clint got that right.

My fireman uncle who didn't like my little MG Midget once quipped "I've pulled dead people out of those little cars" I responded that he had pulled dead people out of houses too, but he still lived in one.
Good to have the option to choose for ourselves.

Dave up until last month I had two FA-180s. I had one in a Rascal 110 the one I gave away had been in my Pica 1/5 kit built WACO. It was a bit much, that WACO now sports a FA-120. The 180 is a real powerhouse. The Rascal also had a 180 but I just installed the very early model FA-150 on that plane. Thinking about putting the FA180 on the Great Planes Super Chipmunk instead. BTW, they sound great with the straight pipe from a Satto 450 radial. Need an adapter bushing to make that work. I can send you a pipe and the adapter. The salt shaker muffler sounds good too.

The plastic back plates have several shortcomings.Plastic always compresses and the screws may tend to make themselves loose in time.
In the case of the .82, hard running with two piece mounts can lead to case distortion across the mounting beams and the rear opening as a result often winds up out of round. Seen quite a few where the new aluminum plate would not go in directly until the tight spots were relieved. Not always a problem but it certainly shows up often. I have 4 FA-82 . Two have the original plastic but I had to replace the plates on the other two. In addition I have done at least a dozen for other locals who had problems with the plastics.

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Old 02-15-2019, 04:38 AM
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Thanks Gary, let me play with it a while and think about a plane, I may get back to you on that pipe. That one on the 150 looks very cool.
Old 02-15-2019, 05:24 AM
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I got a new rod for my FA65 and gaskets. The rod is different than the original and has a definite front and back. Just to clarify what direction does the dot on the con rod face? I did a search and got both directions as an answer.
Old 02-15-2019, 05:36 AM
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There should be a slight chamfer on one side of the hole at the big, crank end. That chamfer goes against the crank, towards the engine front.
Old 02-15-2019, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudolph Hart
Quicky that's a very nice vfr 800/1200? i had a 93 vfr750 with the gear driven cams and an after market pipe,they sound awesome.And the famous author bill bryson is from your town,that's gotta put a smile on your dial
Thank you! Hard to believe itís 18 years old now. Itís the 5th gen. VFR, fuel injected 800 V4 with gear driven cams. Itís wonderful to ride and the sound is intoxicating. I hear the 750ís are very nice too.

I have a NIB 82b coming. In addition to the metal rear cover, I really like the look of the redesigned case.
Old 02-15-2019, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Quikturn

I have a NIB 82b coming. In addition to the metal rear cover, I really like the look of the redesigned case.
I like the look of the 82b better as well, nicer looking cam housing. We should run some bench test comparisons between our 82bs.

Horizon finally got their backorder shipment in so the con rod for my 82a should be here early next week. I'll post an update on that one later.
Old 02-15-2019, 08:35 AM
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Yep goes forward as does the dot on the Saito's.

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