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Old 05-22-2019, 10:10 AM
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Garry, the Carb is out of my hands, it's on it's way to you.

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Old 05-22-2019, 10:27 AM
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I have a special place in my heart for our Vets.
I was 8y.o. and at his home the day my friend Jack came home from Vietnam, I remember talking to him and looking away and looking back and he would be gone, then you wouldn't see him for a half hour or so. he did that many times that day and it has stuck with me all these years..
before we sat down to eat I asked him if I could have one (1) of his metals, when I got up from dinner my hat was full of metals, I told him I only wanted 1, and he said that he had to get away from all that and that he wanted me to have them all. I told him no, but he told me it would be alright, he also told me that some of them were given to him.. so I took them home, a whole hat full of metals, and I loved him for that... well the SOBn kid next door stole them all from me, back then we didn't lock our doors, he was a year ahead of me in school and he got home from school an hour before I did and he went into my house and took them. I knew his parents well, his mother was so nice I could not bring myself to tell her. all my life I have felt guilty about that kid stealing those metals, the dirty SOB!! years later I found out that Jack had got shot in Vietnam, and he had a 3ft long scar, my mother told me, and she saw it, and that he was a Tunnel Rat in the war. Jack died some 6 moths ago.

a funny story about Jack,
well Jack was a big time White Tail hunter. well one time some 20 years ago while hunting he went missing in Maine, he was missing for 2 days, his mother told me the story that she got a phone call saying that Jack was missing for 2 days, that was all that was said and the call was ended. she said she was going crazy threw the night, and the next day Jack called her, Jack told her that his compass was reading off his coat's metal zipper, and once he realized that he got himself back to the camp. so all and all he was missing 3 days. his mother was saying how Jack was laughing about it. BTW back in 1968, or 69 ?? Jack bagged a 264 pound 12 pointer here in Vt, I saw it's mounted head a thousand times. his mother told me it took him 2 days to drag it out all by himself, and he was sick for 2 weeks with exhaustion..

good bless you Jack, and all our Vets and boys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 05-23-2019, 04:18 AM
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:35 AM
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Beautiful machine work!
Old 05-23-2019, 04:36 AM
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Nice work Gary. If I may, seems like oil build up could be an issue unless the cannister is mounted level and with the outlet pipe at the lowest point? Also, filling the fuel tank until fuel runs out the cannister/muffler would be a no go as well? Seems like a three line tank setup with a capped off overflow would be needed for fueling? Perhaps drilling one additional oil/fuel drain hole in the outlet pipe just before it exits the cannister would solve the issues? My .02

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Old 05-23-2019, 04:43 AM
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I have some MVVS mufflers similarly constructed and there are none of those issues. It will be beautiful though.
Old 05-23-2019, 05:03 AM
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I can only find a couple of pics of the insides of the mvvs muffler. It appears though that the perforation holes are drilled into the inlet pipe. No oil would collect in that config.
Old 05-23-2019, 05:04 AM
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Thanks Glow,

The canister is mounted level with the outlet on bottom. There are two rows of offset, opposing holes. One row is high and the other near the very bottom to allow for oil blow down as you suggest.
Made similar systems in the past and oil was not a problem.
Will do the final seam welds tonight before dinner
Old 05-23-2019, 05:36 AM
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Gotcha, I'm sure it will look sweet when complete. Is that one for big block saitos? Going to have a pressure nipple?
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:13 AM
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I had thought of oil collecting in the canister when mounted level with the outlet. My exhaust is usually run slightly downhill in level flight so I guess I dodged that bullet out of dumb luck. I love this thread I learn so much from you guys!
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On mufflers that do collect oil, they clear out either when climbing or going to higher throttle setting accompanied by a grayish white cloud. Even if Gary's perforated tube were in the center, oil collection would still not be a problem. The perforated tube type are very quiet.
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Exactly correct. Most 4 stroke mufflers outlets are rear/ center. Some even have baffles toward the rear.
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So how do I get a couple?
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very nice Gary, very nice

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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
On mufflers that do collect oil, they clear out either when climbing or going to higher throttle setting accompanied by a grayish white cloud. Even if Gary's perforated tube were in the center, oil collection would still not be a problem. The perforated tube type are very quiet.
Exactly true.

Gary paint your motorcycle parts in exchange for your beautifully made saito mufflers et al? that would be very tempting bar the fact that we are on opposite sides of the planet.When i was a lot younger and going out to parties the subject of what you do for a living usually came up at some point during the night, and i always told the truth.I got sick of being promptly dragged outside to look at peoples cars in the middle of the night and three sheets to the wind.Since then i've been everthing from a dolphin trainer at sea world to an assistant mortician at chippers funeral homes, pretty safe since no one wants to talk about that.

ps i did once tell a 6' 4" lady with hairy armpits and size 12 flat shoes that i was a professional clay pidgeon shooter, she got really irate with me over animal cruelty not realising that i meant clay targets re skeet or trap shooting.
Old 05-24-2019, 03:21 AM
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Gary, that's a purdy muffler!

Pete, sounds like at one point your life had porpoise.

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Old 05-24-2019, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudolph Hart
Exactly true.

Gary paint your motorcycle parts in exchange for your beautifully made saito mufflers et al? that would be very tempting bar the fact that we are on opposite sides of the planet.When i was a lot younger and going out to parties the subject of what you do for a living usually came up at some point during the night, and i always told the truth.I got sick of being promptly dragged outside to look at peoples cars in the middle of the night and three sheets to the wind.Since then i've been everthing from a dolphin trainer at sea world to an assistant mortician at chippers funeral homes, pretty safe since no one wants to talk about that.

ps i did once tell a 6' 4" lady with hairy armpits and size 12 flat shoes that i was a professional clay pidgeon shooter, she got really irate with me over animal cruelty not realising that i meant clay targets re skeet or trap shooting.

It must have been Gwendolen.

I have a Saito 56 arriving today that needs some TLC, I'll share as it unfolds.
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Yeah
i just got a 100, no wait must have been last week a month ago. It is stuck up all over. This one should make a good one to try some paint on. If I ever get to it.
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And Gary are gonna make a couple cool muffler available to the group?
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And I recently got an fa45, all gummed too. Looks like at least three of us will have wrenches twirling soon.
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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
And I recently got an fa45, all gummed too. Looks like at least three of us will have wrenches twirling soon.
Which model FA 45, Thanks
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Glowgeek,
Would you like three more?

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