Community
Search
Notices
Glow Engines Discuss RC glow engines

Welcome to Club SAITO !

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-28-2024, 06:28 AM
  #54701  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 1200SportsterRider
That is the 62 on which I adapted an FG11 cylinder making it a 66. Sometimes you just have to do things to see if you can. As I remember it, that increased to bore to 27mm.
First inline if you ever want to sell it!
Old 03-28-2024, 09:38 AM
  #54702  
Jesse Open
 
Jesse Open's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: 30 Miles North of Canada Border
Posts: 3,780
Received 92 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Good mate-up Dave. Any plane under the control of a green transmitter has to fly well. The Saito "Hobbsy Special" will serve proudly for you.


The LT-40 here is FA-72 powered, spent most of the last twenty years hauling around pontoons over a nearby lake. Plenty of power.

Now, get busy and start wearing it out!



Last edited by Jesse Open; 03-28-2024 at 09:41 AM.
Old 03-30-2024, 05:07 AM
  #54703  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default Spinner nut?

Originally Posted by Hobbsy


LASER 70


LA 25 and Saito 30

I know this is an old thread and all my fourstrokes bar one are Saito and on every plane I use them with an aluminium back plate spinner except one which I have a Saito 62 with 12x6 three blade prop, the exact set up youo have on your bright yellow plane here in the photograph. But can I ask you this question, in all my 38 years of flying rc planes I've never used a spinner nut on a Saito engine. But this particular plane I have now with the Saito 62 and three blade prop I have it secured with the prop nut and locking nut. It makes it a wee bit more difficult to use the electric starter. So do you go without using the locking nut and just screw on the spinner nut over the top of the prop nut? If so , is this a safe set up? Would it throw the prop? I'm very safety conscious and would like your opinion? Kind regards Aidan.
Saito 62 with 12 x 6 three blade.
Hi there, do you just use a spinner nut over the prop nut and disregard the locking nut? If so, is this a safe set up? I would like your opinion as I am very safety conscious. Kind regards Aidan
Old 03-30-2024, 07:23 AM
  #54704  
Glowgeek
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,599
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

When using a Spinner Nut I don't use the original prop nut or lock nut. I just tighten the spinner nut against the prop washer. Tight TIGHT!

There's little chance of it coming loose unless the engine is over primed at startup or run too lean at wot.
Old 03-30-2024, 07:39 AM
  #54705  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
When using a Spinner Nut I don't use the original prop nut or lock nut. I just tighten the spinner nut against the prop washer. Tight TIGHT!

There's little chance of it coming loose unless the engine is over primed at startup or run too lean at wot.

Many thanks. I have my Saito 62 on the Calmato Sports 40. Flys it very well.
Old 03-30-2024, 08:11 AM
  #54706  
Glowgeek
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,599
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by easystar123

Many thanks. I have my Saito 62 on the Calmato Sports 40. Flys it very well.
Nice looking setup. The Saito FA-62 is a good match for the Calmato 40. I like your use of ball links.

A couple of friendly tips:

It's a good idea to secure the crankcase vent tubing to something. Clamped to the firewall with an inch of tubing extending below the fuse works well. Some prefer to route that vent to the muffler tail piece, via a clamped on piece of brass tubing, so the exhaust stream carries away the oil.

For a better looking exhaust sealant, teflon based plumbers paste (cheap) works good as does Swak paste (more expensive). I actually prefer Swak but I've been having satisfactory results with plumber's paste (RectorSeal T plus 2"). The excess can be wiped off after the exhaust is tightened leaving a robust, leak free, tidy looking engine.
Old 03-30-2024, 09:12 AM
  #54707  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
Nice looking setup. The Saito FA-62 is a good match for the Calmato 40. I like your use of ball links.

A couple of friendly tips:

It's a good idea to secure the crankcase vent tubing to something. Clamped to the firewall with an inch of tubing extending below the fuse works well. Some prefer to route that vent to the muffler tail piece, via a clamped on piece of brass tubing, so the exhaust stream carries away the oil.

For a better looking exhaust sealant, teflon based plumbers paste (cheap) works good as does Swak paste (more expensive). I actually prefer Swak but I've been having satisfactory results with plumber's paste (RectorSeal T plus 2"). The excess can be wiped off after the exhaust is tightened leaving a robust, leak free, tidy looking engine.
Many thanks for those useful tips. In relation to the crankcase vent tubing, that only stays on when I'm not flying and has a fuel plug stopper at the end. When I go to the flying field for a days flying I simply remove the fuel tubing and at the end of the day put it back on again. The orange gasket maker sealant I bought in America. I've tried everything over the years and I found that this stuff works great and I've never had a muffler come loose in over 20 years using permatex. I'm just recently bought a turbo header for my Saito 72 and look forward to trying that out. In all my Saito fourstrokes I have everyone connected up to the throttle servo using the Dubro Fourstroke Throttle Linkage System. It works great.
Old 03-30-2024, 09:20 AM
  #54708  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default New turbo muffler for Saito 72


Old 03-30-2024, 09:48 AM
  #54709  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
When using a Spinner Nut I don't use the original prop nut or lock nut. I just tighten the spinner nut against the prop washer. Tight TIGHT!

There's little chance of it coming loose unless the engine is over primed at startup or run too lean at wot.











This is the Calmato flying just over a year ago with the Saito 62.
Old 04-01-2024, 06:34 AM
  #54710  
Glowgeek
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,599
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Very nice, thanks for the vid.
Old 04-01-2024, 07:41 AM
  #54711  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
Very nice, thanks for the vid.
Your very welcome. The Calmato has not been out since then as I have been flying some of my other planes. But the next time I go to the field I'm taking it with me as its due a few flights. Thanks for watching. Kind regards Aidan
Old 04-01-2024, 08:06 PM
  #54712  
Jesse Open
 
Jesse Open's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: 30 Miles North of Canada Border
Posts: 3,780
Received 92 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Loved it!
Sweet music.
Old 04-02-2024, 12:08 AM
  #54713  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Loved it!
Sweet music.
Many thanks for your kind comments. They are great engines.
Old 04-02-2024, 01:58 AM
  #54714  
Glowgeek
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,599
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default Whistling Calmato 40

Amazing speed with only an FA-56.

Last edited by Glowgeek; 04-02-2024 at 02:02 AM.
Old 04-02-2024, 02:57 AM
  #54715  
1200SportsterRider
Senior Member
 
1200SportsterRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

The 56 is a real torquer, I have images of one, (that I can't post) turning an HY 12 x 6 at 10,008 and a Xoar 12 x 6 at 10,001 rpm. Also one image of it idling at 1,370. Hooraw, I gottem to post.


.

Last edited by 1200SportsterRider; 04-02-2024 at 03:01 AM.
Old 04-02-2024, 03:17 AM
  #54716  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
Amazing speed with only an FA-56.
https://youtu.be/PBna9ExMvCk?feature=shared
Brilliant and great landing also. The Calmato 40 is a nice sports plane and is ideal for the Saito 56.
Old 04-02-2024, 03:30 AM
  #54717  
1200SportsterRider
Senior Member
 
1200SportsterRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 35 Posts
Default


It appears that someone has stolen the name.

Last edited by 1200SportsterRider; 04-02-2024 at 03:39 AM. Reason: Add image
Old 04-02-2024, 04:02 AM
  #54718  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 1200SportsterRider

It appears that someone has stolen the name.
My goodness
Old 04-02-2024, 04:27 AM
  #54719  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default Saito 62

This float plane from 12 years ago has the Saito 62 on board. The same Saito 62 which is now on my Calmato 12 years later. In all those years ive never had to do a thing to the engine other than put fuel in it and start it up. Its still got the original glow plug .











Old 04-02-2024, 05:07 AM
  #54720  
Glowgeek
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,599
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Nice, Aidan. Thanks for the vid.

The 62 is running plenty rich in both vids. Saitos will run seemingly forever tuned like that.
Old 04-02-2024, 07:01 AM
  #54721  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
Nice, Aidan. Thanks for the vid.

The 62 is running plenty rich in both vids. Saitos will run seemingly forever tuned like that.
Thanks Glowgeek for your kind comments. I like to run all my Saito engines rich and I like to see a smoke trail.
Old 04-02-2024, 08:58 AM
  #54722  
Jesse Open
 
Jesse Open's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: 30 Miles North of Canada Border
Posts: 3,780
Received 92 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 1200SportsterRider
The 56 is a real torquer, I have images of one, (that I can't post) turning an HY 12 x 6 at 10,008 and a Xoar 12 x 6 at 10,001 rpm. Also one image of it idling at 1,370. Hooraw, I gottem to post.


.
What prop were you using when making that 1370 RPM idle ?
Old 04-02-2024, 09:03 AM
  #54723  
Glowgeek
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,599
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by easystar123
Thanks Glowgeek for your kind comments. I like to run all my Saito engines rich and I like to see a smoke trail.
To be honest, I do run my Saitos a bit leaner, both needles, but still within an acceptable mixture range. I adjust the high speed needle as lean as I can without sagging on extended uplines. The low speed needle gets adjusted lean enough for 20-30 seconds of reliable idle before the rpm starts to drop. Both needle adjustment are performed with the engine at full operating temp. And guess what? The engines still last seemingly forever.

Granted, most of my dozen or so Saitos are mounted to warbirds where I have a need for speed.
Old 04-02-2024, 09:11 AM
  #54724  
easystar123
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kilrea, County Derry, N.Ireland. United Kingdom
Posts: 225
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
To be honest, I do run my Saitos a bit leaner, both needles, but still within an acceptable mixture range. I adjust the high speed needle as lean as I can without sagging on extended uplines. The low speed needle gets adjusted lean enough for 20-30 seconds of reliable idle before the rpm starts to drop. Both needle adjustment are performed with the engine at full operating temp. And guess what? The engines still last seemingly forever.

Granted, most of my dozen or so Saitos are mounted to warbirds where I have a need for speed.
Good stuff. They are fantastic engines and give very little trouble.
Old 04-02-2024, 02:30 PM
  #54725  
Jesse Open
 
Jesse Open's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: 30 Miles North of Canada Border
Posts: 3,780
Received 92 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Dave,
Do you recall what prop the Saito in your last pic was using when idling at 1370 RPM?


Last edited by Jesse Open; 04-02-2024 at 05:17 PM.


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.