What size gasser does it take to replace a glow 60? 1.20? 20-26cc? How much more does it weigh? Is everyone of the opinion that the model needs noseweight so a gasser with it's larger physical size and additional battery weights are the way to go with the ST?
Chris...

Thanks Robert, I appreciate all the kind words and thanks too to all for following this thread....the best is yet to come

What's on your build table Robert?

I wonder if one could roll those wires so they are flatter?
Chris...

Chris, I debated with myself wheather or not to use the flat wires supplied in the kit, but in the end I went with what more appealed to me. If this were going to be a true "scale" build I would have went with the flatter wire. I literally have hundreds of hours into this build and I probably have the same number of hours of debating and decision making that went on in my head to get to where I am now... If at a later dater I want to make a more true to scale flying wire I can easily swap them out.

VJ, I am going to build this same model this Winter. Are you saying that the flying wires are a rigid rod? Not a flexible piece of wire? Is that what the plans
for the kit call for, or is that a modification you made? Just curious. I've been taking notes for my build. I am currently putting together a Black Horse Ryan
Sta ArF. There was a thread on that build, but I think it has stalled. Aframe2

Your welcome VJ. I'm building a Andy Sheber Pitts s1s over in RC Scale. Only been at it for a couple days.

Airframe2, the plans call for a flat steel wire (about 1/8" wide) that you would attatch the clevis to. Isubstituted this with regular 2-56 steel rod. My flying wires are fully functional. I will post a photo later this evening on what was supplied in the kit so you can see.

I love this plane, I would have never cut the box open!!!!...plans are cheaper!!...hahahaha...I bet someday this plane would be worth more than you paid..

Airframe2, the first photo shows the stock flying wire (on bottom), the middle is the same wire turned to show its thickness, while the top wire is the 2-56 rod that I used. The instructions say that this( stock ) wire is made of aluminum, but it's not it's steel and can be soldered if you choose.

WHAT!Your breaking scale! You just gotta have the struts man, you better check your respirator I think you been sniffing that glue too much Nice work on the wires though, I've been thinking about using the airfoil shaped tubing K&Smakes.

The 20cc gassers are about equivelent toa 1.20 FS but a .60 2 stroke is just under 10cc. There are some 15cc gassers out there but the 20 seems to make the most sense all around for planes in the 10-15 lb range for scale flying. I have the DLE 20 in my 11 lb TF P-40and it flys great at a little less than 3/4 throttle but put the petal to the metal and you have war power babyThem zeros don't what hit them. The weight of my DLEis 30 oz with muffler and ign. I actually had to mount my radio battery at the trailing edge area of the wing to get balance on my ryan, I hung it under the wing bolt plate.

Raptureboy, I did buy the K&S streamline tubing for the struts and even came up with a neat folding strut to make assembly at the flying field a bit easier, but still undecided at this point if it will go on.... we shall see.

You are right about sniffing the glue though....now what were we talking about and who are you? AHHHHHHH. LOL

This morning I made the last set of flying wire brackets for the trailing edge side of the wing. Brackets are similar to what I made in the front except they are a different size. I did not follow the instructions as they would have you make two separate brackets for each side (top and Bottom).I combined them making one and believe it will be less prone for any type of movement. I added a 1/4" x 1/2" balsa stock thatI epoxied to the adjacent spar to further secure it between thebay.

Upper flying wires completed, here's how they look. It occured to me that maybeyou would want to seewhat I use to do my soldering with. This Ultra Torch works very well for things like clevis' because a propane torch gives off too much heat and an electric soldering gun not enough. Not very expensive and works super. Good stocking stuffer from Santa! Time to work on the lower flying wires but that means I have to assemble the landing gear first. Not much left build wise, but plenty sanding wise...

Sorry to dissappoint you Robert, but as you can see I'm not scratch building it as it's already built and covered. I also don't have any model gas engine experience or equipment but I do have a 2-stroke 60 and a four stroke 91 looking for a good home. The 91 looks like it will mount up quite nicely and the exhaust can be routed out the bottom of the ABS cowling without any cutting.

Do I have to resign my brotherhood membership?

Jaybird

All in good fun Jaybird.....

Spent some time in the workshop getting the landing gear sorted. Earlier in the build I had made accommodations to alleviate some of the stress placed on the landing gear blocks and beef up the landing gear wire. Now you can see how it all came together. I added 3/32" music wire as an additional brace to the rear portion of the gear wire which in the morning will be married together with some braze rod. All of this will be hidden from view by the spats shown in the plans. This may just work...

What do you mean may...  Look's as if it already has.

Jaybird, It's all good my friend.

OK Guys,

I made it out to Creve Coeur Airport this morning and took about 100 photos of the ST-M (white with blue & yellow trim, posted earlier) with the Ranger engine. A few are below

P1 - Profile of N 48587 (yes that is an AN-2 in the far background)
P2 - No need to seal the gap, the elevator is similar
P3 - Top view of nose paint (de Havilland Dragon Rapide in background)
P4 - Top of wing paint, bottom has a similar paint scheme

Whew! You guys are pretty serious about this stuff so I wasn't sure.

VJ - I ws thinking of doing something similar to mine. It wouls seem to me that if the gear did flex rearward that it could tear out the underwing bracing or at least bend some brackets. The builder of mine has some large hardwood blocks mounted to the underside of them to mount the spats to, so those might work as an anchor point.

No work on mine today as it was good weather for a change and I spent an hour and half in a C-172 Skyhawk doing take-offs and landings and then a little sightseeing. It was cold but very light winds right down the runway and the air was smooth with a 2900 ft overcast. We then went out to a Christmas tree farm and brought home a nice tree.

I have bought some parts for mine. I have to exchange my spinner though as somehow I measured 2-1/4 when it should be 2-1/2. I drive right by the hobbyshop everyday on the way to work so it will be pretty easy.

Jaybird

Man! I have barely started my current build and John post pics like that. My mouth is just a watering. Send me all those pics you can John.

Just thought I would chime in. Watching this build thread, and your doing a very nice job Vincent. Keep it up, your giving me some ideas for building the rigging on my Brown B-2 Miss los Angeles. Lots of similar types of rigging on that one. Anyway, keep up the good work!

Dave

O.K jay, we'll let you play with us. Actually I had an STAwith the 90 FS in it and it flew just fine and sounded good too. Iused a flexable lead pipe to the muffler out the bottom of the cowl and had an onboard glow igniter to keep it hot on the idle. If you get a chance to pick up a set of the Robart gear they made for the Ryan, do so they really help with the landing shock.

Thanks and welcome to the thread Dave.

John, that is a very pretty Ryan, the colors are just perfect. Sounds like it has Robert's name all over it. Thanks for posting the pictures. It would be great if you could post a bunch of those pictures either here or on the brotherhood thread for documentation purposes.... they will come in handy for sure!

Jaybird we forgot to tell you once you're in the brotherhoodyour in for life! (like the Mafia) LOL

Vincent, I seen it too.  I need a bigger work shop. 

 Jaybird, You don't leave the family!

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