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Old 12-03-2006 | 12:25 AM
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I got the F-16, and it didn't have the power to stay airborne. So I got the F-14, and it got airborne, started banking right. I gave it right stick, and it went straight in from about twenty feet, and had major damage. Haven't fixed the damage yet to try again. I am thinking of using the gear out of both of them to build a couple of motor gliders, til then I will just have to enjoy flying my second AA.
Old 12-03-2006 | 01:24 AM
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Ok, I'm reading the posts about landing gear and skis and spoons on paper clips, and it's got me thinking. I travel around the country in an RV making my living and right now am staying at a campground with a lake. Floats? Any ideas?[sm=drowning.gif]
Old 12-03-2006 | 10:07 AM
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Tim.

On your Tx......
I had the same problem since my switchable 3ch was getting the most use.
I used the trace pen from RS that Racer mentioned.
I jst removed the screw the wipers were secured with, then applied the trace pen to fill the grooves(cuts) and wiped it with the edge of an index card.
Let it dry over night and reassembled. Works fine now.
I also used the RS teflon lube pen after it was back together to prevent "recutting" on the PCB/wipers.
Thought since it was teflon it may cause problems since teflon is non-conductive.........but no problems as of 2 months of use. No erratic or cutting out behavior.

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Old 12-03-2006 | 03:16 PM
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the blue angel formation plane is a cool idea, it would be interesting to see how it flew. its in the shape of a delta wing, but since their seperate, i wonder if it would need to be trimmed like a delta/fling wing, or if it will trim like a normal plane.



nick
I was wondering too how you could trim it. I would guess maybe you would have
to build each jet with a straight TE and cut the flaps on only the back two. I think
it could work.

So the X wing under power might be a different animal huh? It glides nice and the
under wing keeps it from stalling.
I finally got around to building that 40's Whatsit I posted the palns for a while back.
The tailless stager wing. Glides just like the ad said. Amazing. Would make a great
AA conversion.

Maybe that's what the X wing needs. The top wing set at 0 while setting the bottom
wing, staggered, at -2 degrees.
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Old 12-03-2006 | 06:56 PM
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NOTE: Our local WalMart has the AeroAce for $30.
Old 12-03-2006 | 08:22 PM
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I think I mentioned using a cut open tennis ball to recover planes before, but I have a new trick. I put a rock in the ball to further deaden the bounce, and increase mass to get planes down. I live in a victorian home with turret windows, I stuck a plane on the second story window roof. Three clips with this ball brought the plane down. BTW, you want to have the cut in the ball horizontal to your fingers. The idea is that the ball hits, lets the air out, and rolls down.

Tim

A different thought, I have 2 red/black C channel jets that I'm getting ready to return. Does anybody want them? $35 plus shipping, paypal. These are unopened. If anyone wants them let me know. Tim
Old 12-03-2006 | 11:51 PM
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Tim, where can I get a look-see at the jets? I might be interested.
Old 12-04-2006 | 12:09 AM
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I can post pics of the box, or of another jet body. I don't want to open the box, I should have a return label from tru soon. There is more info on this model on the new spinmaster jet thread and the aeroace jet thread. Tim
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neurotex, that tailless stagger wing looks sweet. it would be interesting to see how it would perform with the AA parts, not to mention looking pretty cool going through the air. the design might aid in your x-wing, though yours might work out a lot better than mine did, mine was overweight and too small, your design looks a bit more fitting.

your idea for trimming the blue angel should work, how big are you thinking of going?

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Old 12-04-2006 | 12:26 PM
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I just spent some time modding the new controller. I got the three channel switch to work. I thought it was all downhill from there. I went to solder in the p11 connection and the connection broke loose from the board. Has anyone modded out a new controlller? Tim

I can't remember which one is P11, but I had the contact that both diodes conect to in the no throttle turn mod rip off while I was making said mod. There was nothing to reattach to and the TX was junk without that contact. I traced the line around the borad to the other side where I found another solder dot on the line. I connected a wire to that dot and ran it around to a resistor near where the contact broke off. The TX is as good as new now.
Old 12-04-2006 | 08:22 PM
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neurotex, that tailless stagger wing looks sweet. it would be interesting to see how it would perform with the AA parts, not to mention looking pretty cool going through the air. the design might aid in your x-wing, though yours might work out a lot better than mine did, mine was overweight and too small, your design looks a bit more fitting.

your idea for trimming the blue angel should work, how big are you thinking of going?

nick
The stagger wing would make a good indoor flyer especially with s&t wings.

I would be guessing about a 5" wing span for each Blue Angel. That would be
all trial & error.

The plane in the pic flew straight but when I hit the turns it dived bombed to
the ground. Now I've cut off the canard, trimmed the tail fins an inch and added
a rear stab across the top of em. It's really quick and she turns good but now
I've lost my lift... especially in the turns. Now I'm adding an angled tail ramp-
but it's snowing.
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Old 12-04-2006 | 09:04 PM
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Ahaa, the p11 connector is where the two diodes connect. Similar break, same place. Mine is still flyable, but for how long. Can you percieve any difference in the controller? The thing that intrigues me the most is the improved ground. For range or for the charge circuit? Tim

Flyboy, or anyone else interested in the jet models, I recieved my return tag today. If you want them let me know soon, otherwise back to tru they go. Tim
Old 12-04-2006 | 10:45 PM
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neurotex,
maybe if you increase the size of the canard wing, and put it at a higher angle of attack with some dihedral, it'll maintain altitude in the turns. maybe even just putting it out further on the nose - bummer she's already painted!

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Old 12-05-2006 | 12:37 PM
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Ferndale,

I don't see any difference in the controller with the broken P11. To tell you the truth, I can't remember which TX I had the problem with out of 3 that I use.

On another note, I swapped out the tail feathers on my oldest bipe last night. I had a takeout container that looked just about right and my old empenage had fallen prey to my 2-year-old. It is actually kid of amazing to me the that the plane was flying with a horizonatal stab so crinkeled and weathered that it basically had the consistency of felt. Anyway, the new tail feathers don't work at all. I had to emprovise a little; the container was not as long as I needed, but was a little wider. Now I can't keep the plane in the air. it looks straigt and all, but every time I turn the plane goes into a nasty nose dive.
Old 12-05-2006 | 06:12 PM
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Try using a foam plate. Also try using tape or the original stickers to reinforce the stabilizer. I assume you have figured this one out, but, if the rudder and stabilizer are not attached to each other, the plane flies poorly. Tim
Old 12-05-2006 | 06:15 PM
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neurotex,
maybe if you increase the size of the canard wing, and put it at a higher angle of attack with some dihedral, it'll maintain altitude in the turns. maybe even just putting it out further on the nose - bummer she's already painted!

nick
That would help but I'm putting it in the hangar for now. The last flight
it nose dived into the snow and the RX got wet. The motors started to
run on half speed and the TX had no effect to shut her down. Had to
shut it off at the RX switch. After drying out it works fine again but it's
not worth the hassle right now.
I think I'll work on something else.
Old 12-05-2006 | 06:18 PM
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On another note, I swapped out the tail feathers on my oldest bipe last night.
Is the tail rudder you made taller than the original? If so cut it down until it
flies better in a turn- or make the stab longer.
Also maybe the added weight of the thicker tail messed up the planes CG.
Add a bit of weight to the nose. Sounds like the rudder though.
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Hi All, my c channel controller flat out quit today. So I grabbed one of my charging stations that is also a c channel controller. The charge station did not have the turn w/o throttle mod. I thought that this could be interesting on a stir stick mod. I was wrong. I was unable to do most of the easy tricks. I think it is just timing the burst of juice. But the turn w/o throttle mod takes about 30 min start to finish. And costs less than a dollar for parts. I built a 3 channel for my dad last night, I'll build on for myself tonight.

Tim

Since I have not heard any interest the jets are slated to ship out on friday. Tim

Ahaa, I think I remember someone else trying the take out container(djstinger perhaps) the foam was to light, that is why I recommended reinforcing it.
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Ahaa, I think I remember someone else trying the take out container(djstinger perhaps) the foam was to light, that is why I recommended reinforcing it.
Take out cont foam is a bit flimsy. Just use some plate foam.
Wish I could find sheets of the original foam they use for the AA bipe tails,
then I could reduce the weight on wing covering and get closer to s&t weight.
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here's the blue angles formation flyer i finished last night. 1/16th balsa for the planes, no sanding or coloring, as i was sure how it would turn out. the rear two jets are mounted at an angle in hopes of creating some stability, kinda like dihedral i suppose. i used .020 CF rod to connect the jets, but its too flimsy, some 1/16th balsa stick would probalby be much better. a few hand tosses showed that it did glide very nicely, so thats a plus, i'm just wondering if i made the jets too small with 4.5" wings. time will tell i suppose.

looks pretty freakin cool though gliding across the living room good idea, neurotex.

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Do you think you can hide the electronics on a plane, or are they going to end up on the CF to get the CG right?
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It does look very cool, by the way.
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Hi All, my c channel controller flat out quit today. So I grabbed one of my charging stations that is also a c channel controller. The charge station did not have the turn w/o throttle mod. I thought that this could be interesting on a stir stick mod. I was wrong. I was unable to do most of the easy tricks. I think it is just timing the burst of juice. But the turn w/o throttle mod takes about 30 min start to finish. And costs less than a dollar for parts. I built a 3 channel for my dad last night, I'll build on for myself tonight.

Tim

Since I have not heard any interest the jets are slated to ship out on friday. Tim

Ahaa, I think I remember someone else trying the take out container(djstinger perhaps) the foam was to light, that is why I recommended reinforcing it.
Ferndale what jets? are they just new aa jets or a different kind?
Old 12-06-2006 | 08:14 PM
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here's the blue angles formation flyer i finished last night.

nick
yeah, that does look very cool! Especially the head on shot.
You even got the Angels' profiles down. Gonna add some blue & gold?
Interesting to see how they fly...
Old 12-06-2006 | 10:20 PM
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GP, they are just new aa jets. black and red. I'm not impressed with the jets and recieved them by mistake. Which reminds me that I need to call tru. Oh, joy. I have had 1(one) jet that flew well in my fly zone. out of 4 jets. If you are flying in the right area the jet model should be great. But I wonder how many hand catches have been done with the jet?

Tim


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