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Old 07-28-2004 | 01:22 PM
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Default Hand held starter ???

Does anyone use a hand held starter for there buggies ????

If so what is the best way to bond(glue)the rubber wheel to the alloy head and what to use ????

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Old 07-28-2004 | 01:32 PM
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Hand held with a wheel? what one do you have, or are you talking about the wheel on the back of ther engine with the plate?
Old 07-28-2004 | 01:39 PM
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I have a hand held starter motor and it needs a new rubber wheel puting on it.
The starter has a plain alloy end that the rubber has to be bonded to...
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Old 07-28-2004 | 01:58 PM
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sorry i have the jump start vesion like this on:

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/jump_start.html
Old 07-28-2004 | 02:03 PM
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Yeah they look very good but i would need a back plate for the engine and one of those.......
the reason i asked the question was that i was given the starter and told it just needs a new rubber wheel fitting...Thanks for your help.
Old 07-28-2004 | 02:09 PM
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This is what the starter motor looks like.....
[link]http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJC35&P=M[/link]
And this is the rubber ring for it.....
[link]http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXL402&P=N[/link]


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Old 07-28-2004 | 02:13 PM
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[sm=confused.gif]The only starter I know of that uses a wheel is a starter box like this one>:

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=ASC1750

And it uses a rubber starter flywheel like this one>:

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...?prod=ASC29070


Click on the links to see what I'm talking about
Old 07-28-2004 | 02:18 PM
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you would probably get away with rubber glue specially made for tyres and rims, but super glue would probably do.Would be a bit brittle though

How are you starting the car? are you gonna turn the flywheel from under the chassis or what. If so its going to be difficult to turn it evenly and straight.

I think that type starter is for planes etc???

Might be wrong!!
Old 07-28-2004 | 02:33 PM
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Default RE: Hand held starter ???

I was thinking the same thing. Sounds like an airplane nose cone starter to me from what you've said.
Old 07-28-2004 | 02:42 PM
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Yeah these turn the flywheel under the chassis and it does work......
I just need to know what to bond it on with ????
Theses arnt as good as a starter box but when its free you will try anything.
Old 07-28-2004 | 02:45 PM
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lol....very true.

Good luck
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Makes more sense to me now. Tower Hobby sells a flexible CA glue (superglue) that works really well to bond rubber to metal like you're talking about. Sounds like you need something with good sheer strength too and this has it. You can probably get it at your LHS, but, here's a link in case you can't:>

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCX68&P=7
Old 07-28-2004 | 04:11 PM
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Thanks Guys

As im in the UK it would be very expensive to buy from Tower so i will have to find a good eqiverlent glue over here.....

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Old 07-29-2004 | 09:43 AM
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speak to apex models as i know they sell glue for rubber and metal as tried to flog me some with my tires and rims i bought. i ended up using rubber glue from bostik which did the trick.

take a look:

http://www.apexmodels.com/product-search.php
Old 07-29-2004 | 12:37 PM
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what kind of batery do you use???
Old 07-29-2004 | 02:26 PM
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12 volt car battery

Why ??
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because i use the same thing and i want a small 12 v battery and i did not find one so i cary a car battery all the time
Old 07-29-2004 | 08:56 PM
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2 part epoxy is what i always used to glue my rubber wheels on, works great.
Old 07-30-2004 | 01:52 AM
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Thanks Guys

I have a 12v motor bike battery and that works very well and is only small and fits in to your pit box very well.....
Old 07-30-2004 | 11:09 AM
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I use 2 * 7.2v nosram 3600 stick packs. works wicked with a lot more power than a car battery and starts my buggy with just a blip on the wheel

Other than that a dry cell 12v pack like the one for the h7 pbs starter box would be better as are a lot smaller and can be fitted into the starter.
Old 07-30-2004 | 11:15 AM
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Default RE: Hand held starter ???

I know a few people that use the hand held starters and they never have any trouble getting their engines started. Also if you have a pullstart fitted it doesnt matter, as all pullstarts have a oneway bearing in that stops the driveshaft from pulling the P/S. The only thin that does happen is that if the engines are still rich then when they hydrolock the wheel flys across the underside.
Old 07-30-2004 | 08:25 PM
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Default RE: Hand held starter ???

I asked a question similar to this not long ago. I never even found the right wheel for it.

To help with your question: I'm pretty sure that the cone adapter on the starter should be replaced with a car adapter that will properly hold the starting wheel.

2 other points to help you out: The wheels are more often referred to as starting donuts, and they are much more common in 1/10th scale. You might try polling those forums for more info.

Now for me:
Has anyone tried the Sullivan Tiger Drive backplate for a 90 degree starting angle on their buggies?????? I am torn between this and a roto start system.
Old 07-30-2004 | 09:18 PM
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Pahedrus: Get a box.

Richie- Those hand held starters work just fine. Just have to be accurate with them. Can be a bit tough when inebriated. lol...2 part epoxy should work fine on there.
Old 07-30-2004 | 09:36 PM
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i would go for this one my mate has the wheel like yours and i found it always come off http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNT01&P=7 this way it shouldn't.
Old 07-31-2004 | 03:23 AM
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Thanks Guys

The ring (donut) is a very good tight fit and doesnt need glueing and it starts my buggy with no probs...

So thanks for all your help guys...

Richie


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