what's the difference between the black and the white stuff?

The color .

One thing that seems to be getting left out on the tire/rim prep is to remove the mold flashing that appears on some tires, this prevents the tire from laying completely on the rim. When you sand, grind, etc. the seating surface on the rims you are only wanting to break the glazed surface, not make it real ruff. Reclean the rim after breaking the glaze. CA is strongest on non porus surfaces when it only forms a very thin layer between 2 relatively smooth surfaces.

Ed M.

no matter how you prep your tires/rims, when you hit a rock hard enough, it will cause the plastic rim to flex slightly. CA glue doesn't flex too well on plastic.

Either way, I'm done with CA glues from now on.

I'm just throwing this tip out there in case anyone wants to know about it. If you're a true believer of CA glue, fine, I don't care.
I am telling you this though, Marine 5200 is a MUCH better bond between rubber and plastic than CA glue.

Use it if ya want.
I know what I'll be using.

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If you hit a rock hard enough you don`t have worry about the rim flexing , it will be broke .
Well , I suggest you go tell all the racers in the world to switch to marine 5200 so they can hurry up and get it before it sells out .

I think it was cool to share the tip. Too bad there's always someone that has to tell you to go jump in a lake. However, I'll be sticking with CA, since I often need to do a quick repair at the track and mostly can't wait 3 days for it to bond. Even with a new set of tires, I am usually on them well before 3 days. I've also never had a complete failure since I've been into RC (now that I've said that, no doubt I will now), so I can't see a need to 'upgrade' here. But thanks for the tip, and keep 'em coming! [8D]

I haven't read all the post in this thread, but the REAL KEY is technique. I use hobby store brand CA with great results. Peple are just way too impatient when it comes to properly gluing tires. I absolutely hate doing it myself, but I take my time up front to do it right, so I won't have to do it again. I do it in several steps and maticulously go areoung the tire looking for the smallest seperation. Or some occations after a lot of use, I may see a little openning. I just throw in a maintainence drop, and it's all good. Poor tire gluing can lead to a lot of irritation when you are out trying to have fun.

It's like:
* going fishing with rusty hooks and old line.
* going drag racing with tire belts showing
* shaving with with an old blade
* marrying a thin girl that you know loves sweets

i think this is a good tip for us bashers so i thank you for the tip!!!!!

If I didn't know better, I would think Mike was working for them or getting a commision the way he is selling this stuff.


Count me in as one of the 5 people who must know how to glue a tire because I have never had one come off on me and I live on the track.

Dude, I'm gona bite my tongue on this one cause I like hanging out on the large scale car board. But you're out of line.

I am out of line?

In exactly what portion am I out of line? I helped write the rules for this board.

Mike where did Slodsm curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass in his post ? If anything he said seemed attacking or hurt you , get over it . You can`t glue tires so you use marine 5200 , ok we get it , it works for you . Some people actually can make a miracle happen and glue their tires . You shared a tip that works for you , thankyou for that . If someone curses or flames you it will be taken care of as mods check through the threads for such .

Pfff, please.
Buddy, I'm "over it".


Let me help you out here:


Please resist the urge to insult someone in your post. "If I didn't know better, I would think Mike was working for them or getting a commision the way he is selling this stuff."
I take that as an insult. As I stated earlier in this thread, if you have good luck with CA glue, great, I don't care, use it if you want. And at no point did I direct anyone to any 1 store to buy it. Like I'm some hobby store owner who just got in a shipment of 5200.


Please resist the urge to degrade, or embarrass someone in your post. "Count me in as one of the 5 people who must know how to glue a tire because I have never had one come off on me and I live on the track."
Like I've never glued any tires on before. I've been doing this for 25 years. I've glued grasshopper tires onto road wizard rims in the mid 80's

and finally: We encourage the free flow of your ideas.....

I thought I'd post up some results for others to look at. But of course, there has to be the regular internet commandos that know everything and everyone else doesn't know jack.


Party on folks. Have fun on the 1/8 scale board.

Mike

Ya , it looks like your over it . Who on here says they know everything ? If they did I`d like to meet them . What do you expect coming on a forum and telling everyone you can`t glue tires using ca ? I know you ment it as a tip but come on you left yourself wide open for comments . Just because you took it as an insult it is not a curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass .

Ahhhh, Is that what happened. I get it now.
See, I thought I came onto a forum giving folks an alternative to CA type glues.
I didn't know that it really meant i'm an idiot that doesn't know how to glue a tire to any car I've ever owned.
Wow, thanks for showing me the light.

Next time, I'll post a thread stating that I'm an idiot that doesn't know how to make something work then ask for permission to use a particular product to cure it.


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That`s more like it . [sm=biggrin.gif] If a mod feels it was innapropriate it will be deleted . It won`t since there wasn`t any real problems . But hey good luck with using the 5200 .

Wow, for someone who has been doing this for 25 plus years, I would expect a higher level of maturity.

If my comments which were made in a joking manner seriously offend you that much, then I will gladly delete them. Perhaps after that, we can work on people skills so I no longer offend anyone with my crass rude jokes about how hard someone is pushing a product.

The facts are, more than half of the people in 1/8 scales are RACING them, we don't have 3 days to let a tire setup. More like 3 minutes in between turn marshelling for the next class and then getting our cars ready for the one after which will be us again.

All in all, the free flow of ideas is more than welcome here, always has been and always will be but if you are not up to a bit of criticism as well as congradulations, maybe you should be a bit more careful because it will happen no matter where you go in life. You can't please everyone just like I can't please you.

Well said. Some people just can't take a joke, no matter how innoccuous. I guess people like to read their own inflections into what others write.

See, I can take a joke. But when I post a thread about something, I see the board rules in RED right above my post text. So I say, hey, i'm not gona insult this dude.

On the other hand, How many friggin times do you think is sufficient to be told that 'THEY' don't have any problems with the way 'THEY'VE' been doing "IT".
Yea, "I GET IT". Sounds like a broken record. ~"I don't have a problem with CA glue. I don't have a problem with CA glue. I don't have a problem with CA glue. I don't have a problem with CA glue." GOOOOOD FOR YOU!!!! How many times would you like to state it in the same thread? Six more times? I'll let you do them all in a row if you'd like.

This thread, for the people who 'got it', was about an alternative solution for those darn hard to glue tires. The tires that you want to light on fire some days for ruining your bashing session.

Maybe I made the title of this thread too intense? Maybe you took it as a 'demand' from me for you to stop using what has been working for you?
Don't know.
If you go back and read my posts, I wasn't "Selling" anything and was happy for the people having no problems with CA glue.
But for some reason, you're resorting to age old internet BS slinging. What's in question next? My place of residence? What I do for a living? I've read them all.

Dude, it was a simple glue thread. I posted saying it's a possible alternative, then came back later and reported my findings.
Who cares that you use CA glue and don't have a problem? Really. Did you feel the need to tell everyone that multiple times and then insinuate that i'm 'working' for the company that makes the stupid glue?

How bout this. Delete this thread.
If it goes along with board rules to allow an author of a thread to have that thread deleted, delete it.
Cause it wasn't meant to be a war against CA glue and 5200.

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Well before it all gets shutdown I for one would like to know the process you used to get a very thick glue in place. I would also like to hear how it all goes in the long term. Any idea how long the 5200 lasts in the tube after the end gets snipped?

BTW, trying to get a thread to stay on topic is an exercise in futility.

Ed M.

Sure thing.
1. I cleaned the inner bead of the tire and the rim using pyroil non-clorinated brake cleaner. I'm guessing that anything like acetone, alcohol or window cleaner would do the same. Something that dries quickly and doesn't leave a residue.
2. I used a sharp piece of aluminum filler rod that I had laying around. A tooth pick will perform the same function.
3. I squeezed out small drop sized blobs and took them onto the end of the tooth pick. Trying to get the smallest drop that didn't over-do the bead section i was working on and large enough to make it worth the scoop.
4. Once enough of it was applied, some squished out of the bead. I took the brake cleaner on a rag and wiped the excess off of the side wall and rim.
5. I let the tires dry with no weight applied to the tires so they wouldn't distort.

My guess would be the 2 year mark if the tube is kept out of the heat.

haha, I hear ya brother.
Oh well, it happens.

Who cares what you use then . Maybe instead of "stop using CA glue for your tires" which raises everyones eye to see what you say , try " found alternative to CA " . You are telling people what to do on the subject listing .

This insults you ? Geez, you obviously don`t take a little sarcasm too well do you ?

LMAO, I seriously can't believe you skin is this thin man, there was NOTHING INSULTING in what I posted. Nothing at all. If I wanted to be insulting, I would have been very straight forward and to the point.

For someone who is attempting to put a volvo head on a ford block running a dodge turbo, I am sure you have actually heard a naysayer in your life before from hate mail for doing something "different". I can't imagine how you reply to that if this is how you reply to a joke about glue and silicon.

Man, I've heard of people that are 'thin skinned' before... but sheesh! What an overreaction! Were you the model for the 'Visible Man?"


Slo did not insinuate that you were a retailer. Its called being facetious. Saying something with tounge firmly in cheek. Its incredulous that you are taking it so seriously. You look rather foolish.

As I said, its was great that you reported on something that worked for you. It's not something that is very convenient for racers.

Good luck to you if you ever make it into the corporate world. I can't begin to tell you how many ideas I've had shot down in meetings. If you react in that situation as you have done here, you'll never be able to hold a job.

Finally, what happens when the tire is worn? Can you re-use the wheels or is the bond so tough as to make the wheels unusable again?