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Old 07-13-2006 | 11:41 AM
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Hey folks,

I got tired of glueing my tires back onto my rims after the millionth time they've torn off.

My friend in the boat building buisness suggested I use Marine 5200 to glue the tires back to the rims.
His theory was: The CA glue is hard and brittle. Plastic is flexable. Rubber is flexable. It requires a flexable glue.

I went to the marine store and bought some Marine 5200 Black. I tore the tires off the rims, cleaned the rim and tire with pyroil non-clorinated brake cleaner, and applied the 5200 black to the bead.
It takes ~3 days to dry. But once it does, it's all you're gona need.


Have fun......

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Old 07-13-2006 | 11:52 AM
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I'm open to new stuff. How thick is this glue? Do you have any longterm results?
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I really don`t have problems using ca . The tires seem to wear out before I would need to glue them back on . Maybe you are not prepping the tires and rims good so the glue sticks .
Old 07-13-2006 | 11:59 AM
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I'm open to new stuff. How thick is this glue? Do you have any longterm results?
The silicone is VERY thick.

I don't have any long term results as of yet. But my guess is those tires ain't goin anywhere. lol
Old 07-13-2006 | 12:02 PM
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I really don`t have problems using ca . The tires seem to wear out before I would need to glue them back on . Maybe you are not prepping the tires and rims good so the glue sticks .

I've tried everything with CA glue.
I've even bought tires already glued onto the rims from Ofna. They tore off in 2 runs.

Maybe I know how to pull the throttle better than you.
Old 07-13-2006 | 12:06 PM
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Maybe I know how to pull the throttle better than you.






Preglued tires are a joke to begin with and if you been in the hobby long enough you would know that .


Maybe you don`t know how to glue tires .
Old 07-13-2006 | 12:51 PM
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Default RE: Stop using CA glue for your tires

your first problem is ofna tires suck. second your probably not using good ca glue or old glue. i now use team losi glue and don't have any problem's at all.
Old 07-13-2006 | 01:03 PM
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Default RE: Stop using CA glue for your tires

I've tried all types of glue including a CA type glue that is used by Montery Boat assembly.

It's junk. I haven't had any luck with any of them.

So for those having the same problems as I, and are sick of CA glue, try Marine 5200 black.
Old 07-13-2006 | 01:05 PM
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The key is using hobby grade super glue, such as the stuff from Team Losi mentioned above. Yeah, you are going to pay 8 bucks a bottle, but it works. I was using cheapy grocery store stuff and constantly re-gluing my tires too. I tried the good stuff on my latest set of tires, and now my tires don't come off anymore.
Old 07-13-2006 | 01:45 PM
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Ive never had problems gluig my tires with Hobby grade CA. The main reasons people get bad results is: Putting way to much glue, not prepping wheel and tire before, using cheep glue, simply dont know how to do it.

Here are the seps to gluing tire, if i leave anything out tell me.
1. Clean wheels and tires, if wheels are chrome sand the chrome out of the wheel bead
2. Insert tire foam into tire
3. Put tire on the wheel
4. I like to put a little glue inbetween the foam and the wheel so it doesnt bead, but everybody doesnt do this. Do this by pulling back oin the edge of the tire and squrting a little glue in between the foam and the wheel. Go around the tire, and you should do this about 4 times.
5.Pull back edge of tire just enough so you can squirt a little glue in the tire bead, dont fill the bead with glue, just a small amount. Go around the tire repeating this, you should do it about 6-8 times using small amount of glue each time
6. Some people like to put Rubber bands around the tire, I dont do this. i hold the tire tighly for about 30 secs. Then put it down and let it dry.
7. now repeat steps 5-6 on the other side of the tire.
8. YOU'VE JUST GLUED A TIRE, if you follow these directiosn correctly you shouldnt have any problems.
Old 07-13-2006 | 01:45 PM
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I use any kind a CA glue from bobby grade to convenience store with perfect results most people just put too much glue wich prevents proper bonding between the tire and the rim, i just put one drop and squeeze the tire against the rim so it pans out i've never had my tires unstick ever.
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kx i think we all have tried to save a dollar on glue. but since ive been using losi glue
you couldnt give me something else. it does the job very well.
Old 07-13-2006 | 01:50 PM
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I agree , that Losi glue is great . I wouldn`t waste my money on anything else .
Old 07-13-2006 | 02:09 PM
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never again for me.

5200 all the way.
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Do you think your gonna be able to get the tires of the wheels using that stuff?
Old 07-13-2006 | 02:55 PM
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Yep.
When the tires are toast, just take a razor blade and slice the glue off the rim.
Old 07-13-2006 | 03:28 PM
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Thanks for the great tip Mike, this should work for us foam tyre users too as there's nowt worse than contact adhesive all over your fingers [:@]

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Old 07-13-2006 | 07:22 PM
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im going to try this out too cause i have problems glueing the tires!!!!
i dont know why people are so negative!!!!
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im going to try this out too cause i have problems glueing the tires!!!!
i dont know why people are so negative!!!!
Who is being negative ?
Old 07-14-2006 | 12:27 AM
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Here are the seps to gluing tire, if i leave anything out tell me.
1. Clean wheels and tires, if wheels are chrome sand the chrome out of the wheel bead
2. Insert tire foam into tire
3. Put tire on the wheel
4. I like to put a little glue inbetween the foam and the wheel so it doesnt bead, but everybody doesnt do this. Do this by pulling back oin the edge of the tire and squrting a little glue in between the foam and the wheel. Go around the tire, and you should do this about 4 times.
5.Pull back edge of tire just enough so you can squirt a little glue in the tire bead, dont fill the bead with glue, just a small amount. Go around the tire repeating this, you should do it about 6-8 times using small amount of glue each time
6. Some people like to put Rubber bands around the tire, I dont do this. i hold the tire tighly for about 30 secs. Then put it down and let it dry.
7. now repeat steps 5-6 on the other side of the tire.
8. YOU'VE JUST GLUED A TIRE, if you follow these directiosn correctly you shouldnt have any problems.
i also clean the tire bead with metho to remove mould release compound & scuff it with sandpaper & scuff the rim with a wire brush so that the glue has something to bight to. I don't have problems with CA glue if the surfaces are prepared properly.
Old 07-14-2006 | 02:19 AM
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i never prep my tyres or rims & never have any problems with CA

i use a brand called "OK Bond" i think its japanese? could be wrong

we have 1 guy who brings it into the UK & EVERYBODY who knows about it buys it from him

without doubt THE BEST glue i've ever used on tyres, its thin so its easily spread around the rim & penetrates well, give a few seconds to move the tyre if not seated correctly & then once held on with either bands or even your hands for a minute or so its stuck, pretty well too, just check for any gaps which there shouldn't be if you applied enough & you're good to go

the bottle comes in a little silver coloured sachet & is definitely worth looking out for
Old 07-14-2006 | 06:11 AM
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Speaking of tires...
This is something I saw racers do as a Kid.... (I was the Kid not the racers ;P )
Anyway I dont know if its legal from a race point of view but...

Roll the foam tyres of your onroad car in silicone glue. The stuff used in bathrooms as a sealant.

Would be great for indoor racing especially.

Nick
Old 07-14-2006 | 06:15 AM
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Showtime, Who sells this glue as id be very intrested, Cheers Jamie
Old 07-14-2006 | 06:24 AM
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Results are in.....

Marine 5200 works awesome.
I took my Ofna Ultra GT LX out yesterday and beat the snot out of her.
The tires held up perfect. I even 'tried' to pull the tires off of the rims to check the 5200's strength. Those things aren't budging.

Part number 05205 is what shows on my tube of Black Marine 5200.
I KNOW home depot sells marine 5200 white. But didn't see the black in stock there ever. Usually a marine store has it. Probably www.iboats.com

Just wanted to relay some good news and a new tip/trick for those darn un-glueable tires.

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ORIGINAL: ttr_dude

Showtime, Who sells this glue as id be very intrested, Cheers Jamie

ole Rusty @ [link=http://www.topoptions.com]Top Options[/link] is the guy to see for OK bond


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