OK. last night I qualified last in the 15 min A main. I passed all bugs except the leader and the guy in second. The leader had lapped us both twice. I had let the leader go by 2X. I didn't race him. I slowed and let him by. Meanwhile I had closed on the guy running second. Time was down to a couple of minute's. Now the leader was closing on me again. So what should have happened here. Does the leader slow and let me race the guy I'm closing on or do I let the leader pass and have a smaller chance at catching the guy in second.

It doesn't matter to me if I'm close to the next guy or not. If somebody faster comes up on me, I let them by. You only have to swing a little wide once, they usually have to skills to fly by without really slowing you down...

If the leader was that good and you are capable of holding a steady line, hold your line, the leader will go around without problems. Most of the time when people slow down or go a different line to get out of the way, the leader has no way of knowing it is coming and a wreck occurs.

Talk to anyone who races a lot and you will get this same line.

let him pass in a turn. OR, single a jump you'd normally double. Or double a jump you'd normally triple. Then go for the attack of the next guy in front of you.

hold your line, race your race. a hate when people change lines or back off as your about to go by them, they normally go the same way as you go. If they are lapping you do the same as you would do every other lap, just don't shut the door on them as you would for someone who your racing for position.

im so focused when im racing that you better not be stopped in front of me. i will not see you untill i hit you. lol

not good man... you gotta be able to see everything else around you to avoid possible problems. Good racer can think what the other driver is going to do... also a good way to avoid a wreck in progress... or a wreck up ahead.

why not just let him pass. 1 second to stop and let him pass is not going to effect whether you can catch second place.

The last race i raced i missed second place by less then a second in a 20Min final. nuff said.

if the guy is lapping you a second time already YOU HAVE to let him pass. that is ettiquite.

let him pass and try learn off him, it may help you catch the other person. [>:]

and you blame coming second on letting someone by? what about the 10 second rollover you did? what about running wide a few corners. end of day if you dont get where you are 1 second to let a fast guy by is not the reason the didnt win.

and jeff it seems like you didnt let anyone by anyway but still lost by 1second. so like i said you didnt lose coz u let someone by. nuff said

no i blame my self but 1 second i saved some where would have made the difference. first place was not racing for a position as he had lapped the entire field twice the way i see 2nd and 3rd where the ones racing for position. I do what i can do not to interfere with other races that have no affect on my overall position. wether i be in first or last. And i believe the best way to do that is to race your race and hold your line, not jump on the brakes or swerve to the side when a faster car is trying to get past.

well point is, if you are being lapped. it means you are not pushing the buggy to its limits.

therefore there are more IMPORTANT factors in your driving and why you are being lapped than losing 1 second letting somone by.[X(]

and remember jeff, you are sharing the track with other racers. so yes u can run your own race, and if you really dont care and just want to cycle around, why not let someone pass?

its not easy passing on the outside in the dirty/loose or bumpy areas, if someone doesnt slow down to let you pass.

you will get much more respect that way

i think you miss understand what i mean. I not saying make it hard for tham to get by you what i mean is don't brake early so they can fly past you and don't move out in to the loose stuff to give them open track, if they are lapping you all they should need is a cars width either side and then don't run them in to the pipe if they go the outside and don't run into the back of them into the next corner.

on the flip side of that your in second spot in the biggest race of your life on the last lap first spot is about to lap you for the second time and third is sitting right behind him are you going to pull over and let first spot go past or are you going to keep racing your race and give him room if hes good enough to get up the side of you, i'll take the later. Just my opinion. I've never had any one complain about the way i drive but i have had some real close clean battles that have lasted many laps.

of course you dont brake early. you can talk to the other person on the pit stand and let him know what you are going to do. either say "pass now" or "i let you go on the straight". etc.


if they are closing fast you can see in your peripheral vision that the car is coming and if you are really racing for second you should be able to let him by without losing any time whatsoever. and then hopefully u can even follw him and hang with him.

and what about this scenario, you are racing, you are in 2nd, the guy in front of you is in first. the first place overtakes the 10th place guy easy, coz the 10th place guy rolled and didnt waste him any of the first place's time, but rejoins infront of you. so do you expect his to give way to you so you dont loose too much time to 1st? of course you do.

its just a simple rule. if you are being lapped you give way, either slow down or go wide on a corner and let him pass.

i expect others to give way to me if i am lapping, and i do the same for others if they are lapping me. in the end, the position i end up, i dont blame on having to slow down for others.

honestly, no, i expect him to not block me as i come up the inside of him or not push me out into the pipes if i try to get by him on the outside. i honestly would not expect him to hug the out side of the corner so i had the entire track to myself. and i believe the worst thing he could do would be change the line he was driving as i approached eg. go from the inside line and move across to the outside to let me go up the inside. the worst thing i see happen that i see new people do all the time is you follow then on to the straight and just as you go to pull out to pass them they move to let you go by them. so then you go back the other way and they do the same. (i know that most of the time this is accidental and they are just trying to pull over to let you by).

the way i see it if 1st doesn't have to go past 10th and you do that is just the luck of the draw most of the time first gets held up by the slower cars that don't give you racing room while second just follows first through after the other car is pressured into a mistake.

though i have never raced national or world title i would expect as the stakes went up that it would be less likley that people would just pull over and let you by know matter where you are running.

i also don't think that rubbing is racing and i would never deliberatley bump a slower or faster car just to make going by easier. though i have seen this happen and had it done to me.

Gotta back up Jeff on this one, just as I said earlier, the top people do not expect you to move over, more often than not if you get out of your line or slow up in it, you can cause a wreck. If they are lapping you then they are good enough to drive around after seeing your line thru a turn or 2. But also as noted don't try to block them either.

ask greg degani. even a world champion had to stop and let tebo and another thru easrlier this year. its just good thing to do. no you dont have to, coz most time, there is no race director to tell you or is watching, but like i said if you want some respect then you do it.

As I figured there would be differing opinions on this. Thats why I didnt say what happened. So here it is. i tried to move out of my line to let him go by. I bobbled and lost some time. As the leader passed second he flipped and I gained some ground.

differing opinions then add some adrenaline and its can be a bad combination. If there is actually offical rules on this it would be great to see them.

If you are two laps down, your race pace is likely slow enough that you can run your normal pace and they will pass you with little effort. Hold your line, don't make any erratic movements to the inside/outside. If he is stuck behind you for a while then make the move out of the way. Otherwise, don't worry about it, since you had a battle of your own to deal with.

!---I love the smell of nitro in the morning and some friendly competition---That is why this sport is so great!!!. 2. Hold your line/Hold your line/Hold your line----don't take the guy out as he is passing you or try to race him to the next turn once he is ahead but hold that line and make sure he gets around you clean---roll the throttle back just a hair!!! Once he has passed clean grab the throttle and drive it like you stole it!!!