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From: boca raton ,
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this is f'ing sad, mr goodbar, you said what you needed, please stop and leave this crap alone or take it to pm's although i doubt youll find anyone willing to answer your comments.
@ op: like others have said keep trying. the best time to ask questions is when ppl are finished setting up pits but have not yet started wrenching. like a few others have said, its a dang shame that the regulars acted like that.
@ op: like others have said keep trying. the best time to ask questions is when ppl are finished setting up pits but have not yet started wrenching. like a few others have said, its a dang shame that the regulars acted like that.
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op.....
there are always jerk's no matter where go!!
some place's worse than other's . If i were you and your wife ,i would continue to go to the track
that were going to and show them that you can compete with them !!! i would bet they lay off
in a hurry if you come in and start giving them a run for their money!!!
if not , i would find another place to race. sometimes you just have to move on and try again
i would hate to see it discourage you or your wife from racing, sounds like if you could
place fifth in your first race (or set of races), you could really compete!!
there are always jerk's no matter where go!!
some place's worse than other's . If i were you and your wife ,i would continue to go to the track
that were going to and show them that you can compete with them !!! i would bet they lay off
in a hurry if you come in and start giving them a run for their money!!!
if not , i would find another place to race. sometimes you just have to move on and try again
i would hate to see it discourage you or your wife from racing, sounds like if you could
place fifth in your first race (or set of races), you could really compete!!
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i always try to be polite while racing. yes i try to win all of us do. but i will not intentially wreck someone to win. yes i make mistakes who dont. there is always some who take this hobby to seriously. i take it seriously to a point but being rude is unsportsman like conduct. no one is going to win every race. go race have fun do your best. get to know other racers you race with in all classes it will make the experience lots better. i wished the original poster raced here we would help them out the ones i race with took me in and showed me the ropes if they see im having trouble they coach me not yell at me.my first race i made a lot of mistakes. i didnt fully understand the timing system, i past the reciever twice. didnt realise i did that. the time keeper asked me to re check in, the driver next to me explained what i did wrong and helped me corect the problem. yes it delayed the race for a few minites but it helped me learn and i now understand how it works. even though i was running out of my class(i was running a brushed sct against brushless) i raced anyway. yes i came in last but the other drivers cheered me up. said i run great if i was running against other brushed sct's i would be in the running. they had more driving experience and they helped me with my set up for the next week i placed 2nd and was running with equel sct's even one of the ones that raced bruhless last week brought his brushed sct out to race with me. to help. find a track that is newbie friendly it will be better
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I say screw everyone else, You and your wife race together.. How cool is that.. Good for you guys for enjoying something together and just dont listen to the other crap that you will find anywhere (even here), just have fun with each other..[sm=thumbup.gif]
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Thanks for all your help from the posters who offered thier help. By the way mr goodbar even posted a rude comment on youtube. He should be banned from this forum. I have found this to be a very informative site. Only a select few spoil it for others. As for racing me and my wife will give it one more chance.
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mtboy , i feelthe same . everyone was a newbie at one time. real glad to see you two not giving up.wished you 2 was here we would welcome you. we need lady races here maybe it would open up a whole new view of the hobby. here in georgia we are trying to get the ladies interested in this hobby. if ever up this way atraumanurse look us up. im in rossville ga.
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wow msgoodbar you already has 115 post of crap . you would think if he was such a great rc guy with years of racing under his belt he would have found the site long ago. he has not even started a post my guess is he just some kid might have one car and no friends or he was kicked off and this is his new account. if you want a good laugh go and read his post he has something bad to say in just about all of them . i like to see some pics of the awards from the races he has won i bet he could not produce a single pic
just my 2 cents
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Hey OP,
Dont let dropkicks like goodbar put you off. He's the unforgiving type. The type who chastises you for not knowing where the goods are located when you walk into a new shop and ask for assistance.
Hope you get a better experience next time. Your wife sounds like a future champion.
Dont let dropkicks like goodbar put you off. He's the unforgiving type. The type who chastises you for not knowing where the goods are located when you walk into a new shop and ask for assistance.
Hope you get a better experience next time. Your wife sounds like a future champion.
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS;">'atraumanurse', I am glad that you and your wife are willing to give it another chance. As was said earlier, try to catch the others at the track when they're not so busy and see what type of response you get. Otherwise, just check with the organiser for all of the necessary information, and you and your wife go out there and have fun. I think It's great that you have your other half out there with you to make the experience that much more enjoyable. If the others are still uncouth and obnoxious, the two of you just ignore them, and they'll soon get the message.
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Thanks for the support. We have been married 28 years and we finally found something we both enjoy. I do not care if my wife beats me in a race. I wish you could see the smile on her face while running our cars. It just was so sad that we received the treatment we got. I wish we could have raced where people were understanding. I am a nurse by trade and always offer help to new nurses. I remember when I was new and knew so little. Everyone is new at some point. Next time we focus on racing as I feel my wife can be a real contender. I will continue to hone my skills as time goes by. By the end of the race I had norest for 24 hours. Maybe if I go well rested me and my wife make a great team. As for being a marshel I still will not pick up a nitro at full throttle.
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Hey OP,
Dont let dropkicks like goodbar put you off. He's the unforgiving type. The type who chastises you for not knowing where the goods are located when you walk into a new shop and ask for assistance.
Hope you get a better experience next time. Your wife sounds like a future champion.
Hey OP,
Dont let dropkicks like goodbar put you off. He's the unforgiving type. The type who chastises you for not knowing where the goods are located when you walk into a new shop and ask for assistance.
Hope you get a better experience next time. Your wife sounds like a future champion.
lol
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come on msgoodbar lets see the pics of the awards you have won in all your years of racing i bet you cant lol at you
come on msgoodbar lets see the pics of the awards you have won in all your years of racing i bet you cant lol at you
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From: boca raton ,
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no i agree, mrgoodbar, put up or shutup, please leave this thread, you are not contributing one bit towards helping the op. give it a rest and go out and rc instead of harrasing everyone
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no i agree, mrgoodbar, put up or shutup, please leave this thread, you are not contributing one bit towards helping the op. give it a rest and go out and rc instead of harrasing everyone
no i agree, mrgoodbar, put up or shutup, please leave this thread, you are not contributing one bit towards helping the op. give it a rest and go out and rc instead of harrasing everyone
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no reverse. rule of thumb at almost any track
if they are still reving it, regardless of what the driver says or does, dont touch it, if they want to pull that crap let them suffer, thats the rule at the track i go to, its a major safety issue and if the racers dont like it they can talk it over with the track owner. the best way to pick them up though is by the wing or front bumper, nose, etc, the sides are going to be hot from the pipe depending on the chassis and if its a 2wd truck or buggy avoid the tranny, also because of heat. if the car has a broken peice and is a hazard the driver may signal you to pull it from the track, also if its reving out of control you may need to stop the engine this can be done in an emergency by blocking the pipe or by stoping the flywheel
come on over to palm beach county, im sure its a heck of a drive but the track i go to is very friendly, we have a policy of ''attitudes at the door''
i know a number of guys who quit racing at bigger tracks here in fl because of ppls attitudes, its a utter discrace. either way id talk to the club owner or president, that is bs that i would not stand for imo. and if someone is particularly nasty talk to them about it in the pits, they may not realize how poorly they are acting because they are so involved in the race.
heres the link to the track i race at we are all smiles and dont deal with the crud youve had to go through
http://www.southfloridadirtovalrc.com/
its a shame that you had to go through that, dont let it deter you from racing though. its a great way see what your cars made of (asside from plastic) and can be very challenging, in a good way
, dont give up.
as for the misses racing, dont let her get detered, we have a number of female racers of all ages who race with us and are right there in front with the best of them! we have for example one woman who's a grandmother of 2 and races a brushlesss losi 8t, a slash, and a baja 5b!
1) what general rules are there while racing. IE If you go out of bounds can you drive back on the track, what happens when you jump over to the next lane, why can't you back up if no one is behind you, Is hitting another car part of racing or cheating.
2. What is the right way to grab a nitro to put it back on the track. Front, back sideways. I noticed some kept thier car at full throttle while upside down. Couldn't this hurt the person picking it up.
come on over to palm beach county, im sure its a heck of a drive but the track i go to is very friendly, we have a policy of ''attitudes at the door''
i know a number of guys who quit racing at bigger tracks here in fl because of ppls attitudes, its a utter discrace. either way id talk to the club owner or president, that is bs that i would not stand for imo. and if someone is particularly nasty talk to them about it in the pits, they may not realize how poorly they are acting because they are so involved in the race.
heres the link to the track i race at we are all smiles and dont deal with the crud youve had to go through
http://www.southfloridadirtovalrc.com/
its a shame that you had to go through that, dont let it deter you from racing though. its a great way see what your cars made of (asside from plastic) and can be very challenging, in a good way
, dont give up. as for the misses racing, dont let her get detered, we have a number of female racers of all ages who race with us and are right there in front with the best of them! we have for example one woman who's a grandmother of 2 and races a brushlesss losi 8t, a slash, and a baja 5b!
first reply to the op's thread, and i feel, a very constructive one at that.
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unbelievable.....no sense of humility whatsoever. Not one person likes this kid, and it's everyone else's fault? It's sad, and just a matter of time before you're cocky attitude is going to get the crap beat out of it somewhere in the real world if that's how you carry yourself.
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first reply to the op's thread, and i feel, a very constructive one at that.
first reply to the op's thread, and i feel, a very constructive one at that.
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As I read through your complaints it seems to me that your biggest problem was that you just showed up, as it is my opinion that the best thing people that are interested in racing can do is to spend a couple of race days at the track overviewing what goes on and how things work, ask the experienced guys, and learn the ropes before jumping in with both feet. It's kind of like swimming, you generally don't show up at the pool the first time and jump in the deep end with the sharks which is pretty much what you did.
Your first mistake appeared to be while you were "turn marshalling" (what you called "spotting"), and while it may not seem like a big deal now I will just suggest that the biggest aggrevation to racers are unattentive or slow or lacksidasicalmarshals/spotters. My advice would be to do it like you would want your own car attended to after a wreck, and if you want to get marshalled slowly then proceed with whatever it is that caused the drivers to yell, and if you want to not get yelled at to be attentive to the task at hand and do it quickly as possible. Part of it is that you're new, and going through a learning curve, and right now you probably looked like a couple of deer in the headlights while out there marshalling.
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1) No, you can not drive back onto the track once your car has left the boundary of the track, you have to wait to get marshalled. The problem with driving back onto the track is that chances are you may jump right out in front of or wreck a fellow competitor. Not cool at all if you think about it happening to you, and why it's against the rules.
The longtime rules for RC racing, since the early days of RC, includes "no reverse" on the track. Think of it like if you were driving down the street in your real car. Would you be pleased at all if suddenly the car in front of you flashed on it's backup lights and it started backing up to go into the BurgerKing parking lot they just drove by? Same principal applies to racing.
About "is hitting another car part of racing or cheating," watch any other form of racing on television and think about what the other driver's reaction is if another driver hits them. Simple enough to figure out.
2) There really is no good way to grab any car, let alone a nitro, other than in the middle so as to avoid the wheels. So you understand, nitros do no have fuel pumps, so if a driver does not keep the throttle pegged while the car is upside down it will stall out from lack of fuel. Now, the considerate thing is for them to let off the gas when a marshall approaches or gets ready to reach down and flip over their car. If they don't, then don't touch it.
There are plenty of online resources so as to study up on The Rules, http://www.roarracing.org/is the national ruling body and a good place to start.
Otherwise I would suggest walking around the pits and becoming friendly with the other drivers, apologize to the ones that may be angry or may have yelled, and tell them you're a rookie and would appreciate their input on helping you and your wife learn the rules and proper on-track behavior.
Keep in mind that RC racingcan bea very mentally taxing, pressurefilled,and stressfull hobby, so some people handle it better and some don't. Some get angry at the least little thing, and some stay cool under the pressure. It's part of racing, I don't care what kind of racing you're talking about be it RC racing or real car racing. Racing can be serious business, and some people have several hundreds if notthousands invested and don't appreciate being crashed. The thing that aggrevates me the most at the track is a new person that drives like a crazy person, all over the place, with no care about anybody else or any other cars on the track.
Remember, just like driving on the street, there are "rules of the road" you have got to follow. Everybody does. If not, all you're left with is anarchy.
Have fun at the track, I try do
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As I read through your complaints it seems to me that your biggest problem was that you just showed up, as it is my opinion that the best thing people that are interested in racing can do is to spend a couple of race days at the track overviewing what goes on and how things work, ask the experienced guys, and learn the ropes before jumping in with both feet. It's kind of like swimming, you generally don't show up at the pool the first time and jump in the deep end with the sharks which is pretty much what you did.
Your first mistake appeared to be while you were "turn marshalling" (what you called "spotting"), and while it may not seem like a big deal now I will just suggest that the biggest aggrevation to racers are unattentive or slow or lacksidasicalmarshals/spotters. My advice would be to do it like you would want your own car attended to after a wreck, and if you want to get marshalled slowly then proceed with whatever it is that caused the drivers to yell, and if you want to not get yelled at to be attentive to the task at hand and do it quickly as possible. Part of it is that you're new, and going through a learning curve, and right now you probably looked like a couple of deer in the headlights while out there marshalling.
<div id="TixyyLink" style="border-bottom: medium none; text-align: left; border-left: medium none; background-color: transparent; color: #000000; overflow: hidden; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; text-decoration: none">Relative to your specific questions:
1) No, you can not drive back onto the track once your car has left the boundary of the track, you have to wait to get marshalled. The problem with driving back onto the track is that chances are you may jump right out in front of or wreck a fellow competitor. Not cool at all if you think about it happening to you, and why it's against the rules.
The longtime rules for RC racing, since the early days of RC, includes "no reverse" on the track. Think of it like if you were driving down the street in your real car. Would you be pleased at all if suddenly the car in front of you flashed on it's backup lights and it started backing up to go into the BurgerKing parking lot they just drove by? Same principal applies to racing.
About "is hitting another car part of racing or cheating," watch any other form of racing on television and think about what the other driver's reaction is if another driver hits them. Simple enough to figure out.
2) There really is no good way to grab any car, let alone a nitro, other than in the middle so as to avoid the wheels. So you understand, nitros do no have fuel pumps, so if a driver does not keep the throttle pegged while the car is upside down it will stall out from lack of fuel. Now, the considerate thing is for them to let off the gas when a marshall approaches or gets ready to reach down and flip over their car. If they don't, then don't touch it.
There are plenty of online resources so as to study up on The Rules, http://www.roarracing.org/is the national ruling body and a good place to start.
Otherwise I would suggest walking around the pits and becoming friendly with the other drivers, apologize to the ones that may be angry or may have yelled, and tell them you're a rookie and would appreciate their input on helping you and your wife learn the rules and proper on-track behavior.
Keep in mind that RC racingcan bea very mentally taxing, pressurefilled,and stressfull hobby, so some people handle it better and some don't. Some get angry at the least little thing, and some stay cool under the pressure. It's part of racing, I don't care what kind of racing you're talking about be it RC racing or real car racing. Racing can be serious business, and some people have several hundreds if notthousands invested and don't appreciate being crashed. The thing that aggrevates me the most at the track is a new person that drives like a crazy person, all over the place, with no care about anybody else or any other cars on the track.
Remember, just like driving on the street, there are "rules of the road" you have got to follow. Everybody does. If not, all you're left with is anarchy.
Have fun at the track, I try do

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well in reply to the op's question about where to pick up a nitro, you said the middle, now maybe its me and all the times ive turn marshaled at club races but normaly after a few minutes those side mounted pipes on truggys and buggys get mighty hot, not something i want to pick up imo. now overall it was a very productive post but after maybe your 2nd or 3rd reply you posted a lot of stuff that rubbed ppl the wrong way and or were personal attacks yes quite frankly you should have kept to yourself.
but even in your quoted first post the first 2 paragraphs were kind of rude. no need for that stuff on a forum
believe me, im sure i may be coming off as the "wanabe good-guy" but lets be honest, so far today you posted a lot of stuff that was unessasry, if you want to do it right, reply to the other posters messages via pms, instead of filling the forum with the back and forth attacks stuff that a few of us have been drawn into (myself included)
but even in your quoted first post the first 2 paragraphs were kind of rude. no need for that stuff on a forum
believe me, im sure i may be coming off as the "wanabe good-guy" but lets be honest, so far today you posted a lot of stuff that was unessasry, if you want to do it right, reply to the other posters messages via pms, instead of filling the forum with the back and forth attacks stuff that a few of us have been drawn into (myself included)
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well in reply to the op's question about where to pick up a nitro, you said the middle, now maybe its me and all the times ive turn marshaled at club races but normaly after a few minutes those side mounted pipes on truggys and buggys get mighty hot, not something i want to pick up imo. now overall it was a very productive post but after maybe your 2nd or 3rd reply you posted a lot of stuff that rubbed ppl the wrong way and or were personal attacks yes quite frankly you should have kept to yourself.
but even in your quoted first post the first 2 paragraphs were kind of rude. no need for that stuff on a forum
believe me, im sure i may be coming off as the "wanabe good-guy" but lets be honest, so far today you posted a lot of stuff that was unessasry, if you want to do it right, reply to the other posters messages via pms, instead of filling the forum with the back and forth attacks stuff that a few of us have been drawn into (myself included)
well in reply to the op's question about where to pick up a nitro, you said the middle, now maybe its me and all the times ive turn marshaled at club races but normaly after a few minutes those side mounted pipes on truggys and buggys get mighty hot, not something i want to pick up imo. now overall it was a very productive post but after maybe your 2nd or 3rd reply you posted a lot of stuff that rubbed ppl the wrong way and or were personal attacks yes quite frankly you should have kept to yourself.
but even in your quoted first post the first 2 paragraphs were kind of rude. no need for that stuff on a forum
believe me, im sure i may be coming off as the "wanabe good-guy" but lets be honest, so far today you posted a lot of stuff that was unessasry, if you want to do it right, reply to the other posters messages via pms, instead of filling the forum with the back and forth attacks stuff that a few of us have been drawn into (myself included)
You might call what I posted rude, while I consider it being honest and giving adult answers. If everyone wanted "have it your way" answers then they should be going to BurgerKing, and if they wanted their hands held and patted on the head telling them everything's okay then they need to go back to nursery school. Life, and racing, don't work that way.
And while you're being honest, let's be honest, you really added nothing of substance while stalking me in these threads but instead trolled around acting like some kind of halfassed junior jet jockey deputy sheriff wanna-be, and joined in with the morons and children that have taken much joy from tag-team attacking me.... at least until their mommy's told them to get off the computer.
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ill give you this much, it was an honest post and yes someties ppl need to hear the truth but on the other hand for someone, there first time out at a track on race day it can be intimidating and if they feel as put out as they did i think encouragement should be exersized, racing although only part of the hobby, is something everyone has a right to enjoy and experience, i know i love it, and im sure you feel the same.
now as far as me trolling, no, im just bored and it seems that everywhere i clicked you were there and for the most part posting stuff that like i said before rubbed ppl very badly and or were personal attacks at every person who differed in opinion from you.
hope you dont think im trying to be an arse or confrontational, been there done that, got it out of my system for the most part way back when. talking = good
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ok, i read a few posts and i do slightly understand your position. you are defending yourself but the thing is, when your responding you are adding in other remarks that are only fanning the flames.
now as far as me trolling, no, im just bored and it seems that everywhere i clicked you were there and for the most part posting stuff that like i said before rubbed ppl very badly and or were personal attacks at every person who differed in opinion from you.
hope you dont think im trying to be an arse or confrontational, been there done that, got it out of my system for the most part way back when. talking = good
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ok, i read a few posts and i do slightly understand your position. you are defending yourself but the thing is, when your responding you are adding in other remarks that are only fanning the flames.
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ill give you this much, it was an honest post and yes someties ppl need to hear the truth but on the other hand for someone, there first time out at a track on race day it can be intimidating and if they feel as put out as they did i think encouragement should be exersized, racing although only part of the hobby, is something everyone has a right to enjoy and experience, i know i love it, and im sure you feel the same.
now as far as me trolling, no, im just bored and it seems that everywhere i clicked you were there and for the most part posting stuff that like i said before rubbed ppl very badly and or were personal attacks at every person who differed in opinion from you.
hope you dont think im trying to be an arse or confrontational, been there done that, got it out of my system for the most part way back when. talking = good
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ok, i read a few posts and i do slightly understand your position. you are defending yourself but the thing is, when your responding you are adding in other remarks that are only fanning the flames.
ill give you this much, it was an honest post and yes someties ppl need to hear the truth but on the other hand for someone, there first time out at a track on race day it can be intimidating and if they feel as put out as they did i think encouragement should be exersized, racing although only part of the hobby, is something everyone has a right to enjoy and experience, i know i love it, and im sure you feel the same.
now as far as me trolling, no, im just bored and it seems that everywhere i clicked you were there and for the most part posting stuff that like i said before rubbed ppl very badly and or were personal attacks at every person who differed in opinion from you.
hope you dont think im trying to be an arse or confrontational, been there done that, got it out of my system for the most part way back when. talking = good
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ok, i read a few posts and i do slightly understand your position. you are defending yourself but the thing is, when your responding you are adding in other remarks that are only fanning the flames.
It's a learning process, and nobody said it was going to be a bowl of cherries or that people handed out cookies and worked on the newbies cars.
I had a couple of jerks that stareted in on me yesterday, and even a couple more punks that did the same thing today. Then you joined in and started lecturing me, instead of going back to the beginning and seeing who started the crap, and then calling them out on it.
It just gets to a point, for me, that when enough of them start in and start chasing me all over the forum I just can't resist the urge to flame back.

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Everybody has to go through the ''first day at the track blues,'' everybody that's ever raced has gone through it one way or another.
It's a learning process, and nobody said it was going to be a bowl of cherries or that people handed out cookies and worked on the newbies cars.
Everybody has to go through the ''first day at the track blues,'' everybody that's ever raced has gone through it one way or another.
It's a learning process, and nobody said it was going to be a bowl of cherries or that people handed out cookies and worked on the newbies cars.
Did we hand out cookies for a job well done... NO but he did stick around and have burgers and beers with us. I never went through the "first day blues" as I didn't race at a track full of jackA**es.



