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Old 07-24-2010 | 03:24 PM
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i dont know which one to pick im stuck i love them both i need some help
Old 07-24-2010 | 03:32 PM
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[X(] I can NOT believe you asked that!

Let the Flame War begin.Havent seen one in a few days.Time for a new one!
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so buy them both
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He said i love them both...
either hes REALLY lonely,( ) or he has both...
Old 07-24-2010 | 03:54 PM
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Brushless isn't the nitro killer that all the voltnerds make it out to be. they are both fun, and they both have their place. ThunderbirdJunkie enjoys the lack of maintenance with brushless, and the easy cleanup of nitro.

Pick your poison.
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Pick your poison.

Like the pun. Not sure if it was intentional though...

Some(like sycho venom) say nitro is actually less maintenance. I say.Nitro is fast.Bl is fast.
Ive blown up up alot more electric systems than nitro...So maybe nitro lasts longer.More reliable.(Except for starting ) I dont know though.Pick whichever you like.
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Nitro is less maintenance than a brushed electric. Unless you count charging as maintenance, BL is the lowest maintenance you can go...but there's still the fun of the big burly truck yappin up to 35,000 rpm, grabbing 2nd, and the front wheels become light.

Both are fun, both have their advantages and disadvantages. That is why ThunderbirdJunkie has both
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I have both as well, and i always will.Had 2 nitros at once a year or 2 ago, sold both, missed em.Bought one new, too many headaches, engine was bad, no good reviews, alot just werent built good and didnt last long.This didnt either.Shortly after break in it went.Traded it for an electric, traded that for a nitro, and still have that.Needs a new pullstart though...Just something about nitro. Cant pick one, gotta have both.Love the engine screamin down the road, hearin it shift, watchin the smoke come out. Great site.And tuning it to where it runs PERFECTLY, thats a great feeling as well.
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I only have electric and even though I know nitro is a bit more maintenance I am thinking of getting a nitro because I hate always having to charge the battery and sometimes you take out your car to show your friend or something and find out it isn't charged.
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i own both it depends what mood your in and how lazy you are
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Waiting for the Syco rant, The word is he has it copied so he just has to paste it!

just funning with you syco.
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Waiting for the Syco rant, The word is he has it copied so he just has to paste it!

just funning with you syco.

Yeah ive been waiting for him too lol.Did he?Thought he said he didnt want to take the time to make it a word doc. He should have it on his desktop, with how much he uses it for.He prolly has it memorized to the periods too, huh syco?

Lol, sorry, had to give you a hard time about it.
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nitro. <div>
</div><div>I've had one BL truck, one nitro car, one nitro truck, and one BL car. </div><div>
</div><div>I can honestly say, for trucks, nitro hands down, but cars, I'd have to go with BL. Its great to be able to work on your car indoors, test it indoors, and even drive it around a bit. Try that with a nitro, prayers be with you. </div><div>Another thing is nitro is actually pretty hard to break. You would have to do ALOT of wrong to actually break a nitro car or truck. With BL, all it takes is plugging in the battery backwards, and your $300 dollar motor/esc is gone. (yea, i accidently swapped the wires when i soldered my deans). But nitro, you can alway take apart the engine, swap in a piece worth a few bucks and your up and running. </div><div>
</div><div>Yet maintainability, I'd have to go with brushless. Its clean, its easy, and for all the people who whine about charging batteries, hop up on hobbycity and grab a few 4s-6s for 30-40 bucks. Each one is worth about a gallon of nitro, and pays for itself in about a week.  </div><div>
</div><div>Finally, the question about speed. I don't care if my BL truck can zoom down the street going 60, which it does. I'm much more satisfied with the scream of a 40 mph truck at high rpms, smoke coming out, and turning every head. Its much more satisfying, and it feels like it going much quicker. BL? my onroad runs over 80, all I'm concentrated on is trying to keep it on the road, not crashing, controlling it, and listening to a silent whiz.</div><div>
</div><div>no fun.</div>
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nitro. <div>
</div><div>\I can honestly say, for trucks, nitro hands down

Hows that?They have more torque?More speed? More controllability?

You cant say they beak less."You have to do alot of wrong to break a nitro".Not necessarily true.Lean it out a little too much and there goes your engine.
Dont break it in right...Again.Poof.

And a bl with metal pinion and spur, as sycho would say, "is just as loud if not louder than my nitros."
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again, BL wrong batteries, poof, bad charge, boom.

i think theres more torque in a nitro for trucks, i THINK, plus its just more satisfaction, running your truck through dirt, with sound and smoke. My BL truck is a joke, its fast, its pulls crazy wheelies all day, snakes out on full out throttle on any terrain, but id take my nitro over it anyday. it just feels cheap, like a toy. a nitro feels like a machine.<br type="_moz" />
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Nope.Bl,Depending on batteries, have WAY more torque.Some bls are pushing 3,4 up to 6hp.Id love to see a nitro do that.Most motors are 1-2hp...
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nitro. <div>
</div><div>\I can honestly say, for trucks, nitro hands down

Hows that?They have more torque?More speed? More controllability?

You cant say they beak less.''You have to do alot of wrong to break a nitro''.Not necessarily true.Lean it out a little too much and there goes your engine.
Dont break it in right...Again.Poof.

And a bl with metal pinion and spur, as sycho would say, ''is just as loud if not louder than my nitros.''
Too lean doesn't make your engine go poof.
Too tall of gearing though will make your BL motor demag and quit working, and there's $60-200 depending on what you're running.

Nitro is way more forgiving. ThunderbirdJunkie has run his nitro engines at 400+ degrees, but he knows that if his 4600 starts to get close to 200 it's in danger of dying.

You can't just say "problem X exists with nitro" without problem Y existing with other power systems.
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MOAR LEAN, LESS LIFE.
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i dont know which one to pick im stuck i love them both i need some help
This statement is a little too ambiguous. Are you getting rid of one? Are you buying a new one? Or are you just trying to decide which one you like best?
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It amazes me how people who have owned both can say that nitro is "less maintenance" It requires an extensive break-in, then constant fiddling with the carb to get it to run right depending on the weather. With electric, you plug in a battery and away you go. Aside from occasionally spraying the crud out of the motor, there is no maintenance or setup involved. Nitro has it's perks, but it isn't easier by any standard.
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It amazes me how people who have owned both can say that nitro is ''less maintenance'' It requires an extensive break-in, then constant fiddling with the carb to get it to run right depending on the weather. With electric, you plug in a battery and away you go. Aside from occasionally spraying the crud out of the motor, there is no maintenance or setup involved. Nitro has it's perks, but it isn't easier by any standard.
With an electric, you have experimentation with gearing too.

Never had to solder a connector on a battery lead for nitro.

See where ThunderbirdJunkie is going with this?

and if your nitro RC requires CONSTANT fiddling with the carb, you're DOING IT WRONG or there is SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR ENGINE.

Most people in this thread are posting so much drivel because they don't know what it's like to operate both.
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It amazes me how people who have owned both can say that nitro is ''less maintenance'' It requires an extensive break-in, then constant fiddling with the carb to get it to run right depending on the weather. With electric, you plug in a battery and away you go. Aside from occasionally spraying the crud out of the motor, there is no maintenance or setup involved. Nitro has it's perks, but it isn't easier by any standard.
With an electric, you have experimentation with gearing too.

Never had to solder a connector on a battery lead for nitro.

See where ThunderbirdJunkie is going with this?

and if your nitro RC requires CONSTANT fiddling with the carb, you're DOING IT WRONG or there is SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR ENGINE.

Most people in this thread are posting so much drivel because they don't know what it's like to operate both.
gearing? quick search up on yourmanufacturerswebsite can easily calculate your gears, simple as hell. electric is ass easy.

RTR? charge, and go.
RTR Nitro? hmm, gotta break in, 5 tanks, spend a day breaking in, spend even more time tuning. oh its great. change fuel? season change? time to tune again.

if your new, electrics the way to go, you really cant fail there. batteries are soldered for you, everything is idiot proof. my first nitro was a ebay redcat crap. didnt break it in, poured fuel in, started engine, and sat there with a *** look when it zipped down my street and into the side of someones house. then i realized i didnt turn my controller on. stripped gears, broken steering servo etc etc.

buying a BL is like buying a new car. everythings ready for you. but thats all it is, a new car

buying a nitro is like buying a 1967 shelby. at first you gotta maintain it, get it at its peak performance. yea itll take alot of tuning and maintaining, but down the long road, you have something thats more than just a car.




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gearing? quick search up on your manufacturers website can easily calculate your gears, simple as hell. electric is ass easy.
It may be a good ballpark, but manufacturer recommendations almost never perfectly fit your specific setup EXACTLY.

RTR Nitro? hmm, gotta break in, 5 tanks, spend a day breaking in, spend even more time tuning. oh its great. change fuel? season change? time to tune again.
I spend maybe an hour to break in a new engine, probably less. Once that is done I'll have it tuned in about 10 minutes. Changing fuel only requires a re-tune if the fuel you buy has a different nitromethane content.

if your new, electrics the way to go, you really cant fail there. batteries are soldered for you, everything is idiot proof.
Only batteries that come soldered for you are the ones that come from the manufacturer or if you get lucky and buy a battery that happens to have the connector on it. You will have to solder something sooner or later, especially if you want to replace/upgrade an ESC. Electric is far from idiot-proof, there is plenty to do wrong and when you do something wrong it can get expensive fast.

my first nitro was a ebay redcat crap. didnt break it in, poured fuel in, started engine, and sat there with a *** look when it zipped down my street and into the side of someones house. then i realized i didnt turn my controller on. stripped gears, broken steering servo etc etc.
What does your incompetence have to do with glow engines as a power source?

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nitro has the cool factor for sure.

brushless is clean and easy, i dont want to tune the motor more than once.

both types will provide more performance than you will ever need in a rc vehicle.

i went electric because the local track is electric only, and the nitro i did have made me want to give up when i couldnt get it to run. than messed it up more heh. not anoying neighbours at night, and using the track is good enough to make me buy electric. plus i hate the oil that gets everywhere with nitro cars. love the smell, dont like oil. i ran in my back yard a little rich one day, my dogs feet got oiled.
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electric is ass easy.
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