Darrel Patterso

Is there any truth regarding the JetJoe engines not being in production anymore?
A brief statement in the latest Jetpower mag indicates that production has ceased.

B1Driver

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I hope not!!

Skymac

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No...

digitech

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no they seized production for that engine so the magazine said.

there is a giant lawsuit going on in germany at the moment
between the german importer and customers
the customers are getting together in a lawsuit , a lawyer who is also a modelflyer does this as a freebee.
since in germany they have also a law that states if you sell a object and it does not perform as they describe it.
you need to take back the object. this is called "gewahrleistung"
the magazine was not to happy with the results of the turbine mentioned.
and so since the anouncement the importer is on holiday and also was not present at the jetpower meeting this year.
would have liked to see finaly a jetjoe in flight.
maybe next year.[:-]
o anyone who can read german here is the adress of the "sammelklage" (all the people that complained)
http://www.rclineforum.com/forum/thr...46375d4334723b

john agnew

The turbine referred to in Jetpower magazine is called a "Baby Joe" Is this the same as a "Jetjoe"? Makbe Skymac can expand slightly on his answer to the original question instead of just "No..."

John

EASYTIGER

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Wow! Giant lawsuit? Do tell!

rpmtech

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ET,

Did you finally get yours to work right?

Skymac

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Well after Bablefish and some time seems like to me who ever was the seller in Germany decided to publicly sell the original engines and people are tired of putting up with them with flame-outs and inconsistence thrust readings at half the advertised power...


Although it was not flown but once, many people saw a brand new JJ-1400 production motor fly at the Super South Jet Event toting around a 19.5lbs plane fine...The first time it was fired was about 10 mintues before the flight to check it out..

EASYTIGER

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Oh, leave me out of it! It's a lose/lose situation, no matter what I say, someone will jump on me, I got beat up enough, so forget I even have one, I'm not talking anymore about my own experiences!

But I want to hear about this giant lawsuit!

Gary Scrivens

I have a jj1400, I've had it about two weeks. I've got 150minutes running on the clock now and after a couple of minor probs it's now running great. can anyone suggest a not too expensive model for use of grass about 80yrds. oh and where's the best/cheapest place to buy kerro in uk?

Skymac

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Baby Boomerang, possibly a A10X from Skymaster.

wiking

My JetJoe works fine but i think the temp could be a little lower (587 celsius)

john agnew

ET

I think that Sandor means a class action by the term" giant lawsuit." Skymac, pehaps I am a bit on the dense side but I did not really understand your reply.

John

Skymac

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Hah, some people never do..

From my take its a "group" of users/customers that are complaining of false advertisment aka (misleading Thrust, Egt,etc) and trying to bring a lawsuit upon the agent in Germany who sold the units? Please correct me if im wrong, my German translation is not to swift...

EASYTIGER

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Me, I know nothing about it, would love to hear about the giant or class action, or whatever lawsuit.

Jetjoe lists their distributors on their website:
Home > Rep Worldwide

1. JetJoe International :

75-09 Parsons Blvd 2nd fl, Fresh Meadows NY 11366 USA e-mail: [email protected] Phone: (718) 969-4121

Ordering: [email protected] Payment: Paypal, major credit cards, wire transfer.

Tech Support: [email protected]

JetJoe China : Shanghai,China Tel: (21)6449-3500

************************************************** ************************************************** *

JetJoe agents, distributor and services worldwide:

Argentina: Ricardo Deisernia, e-mail: [email protected]

Brazil Agent and turbine repair services.

Jetmodel Turbines - Fabio Mirabelli e-mail: [email protected] - Tel. (16)9133-3792

Chile: Fernando Abasolo Mail: [email protected]

Phone: 56-2-8597039 Mobile: 56-8-2193761
Location: Santiago, Chile

Germany, Spain, Italy,France,Belgum,Northern Europe and eastern Europe Agent & repair services.

Modellabau Pollack, e-mail: [email protected] Tel: 0049 981 14224

UK Agent and repair services:

Anglesey Turbines e-mail: [email protected] Tel: 07960835510.

Taiwan Agent:

Merries International Inc e-mail: [email protected] Tel: 02-89117712

HongKong Agent & repair service:

Hall Star Co. WanChi, HongKong e-mail:[email protected] Tel: 92021286

Isreal:

Alex louw, e-mail:www.zerograity.co.il

Netherlands, Austria, Suisse, Denmark agent and repair service:

Hobbydirekt Modellbau, e-mail;[email protected] Tel;05846-980492

Russia:

Hobby for everybody Hobby Shop, Address: Russia, Moscow, Bratislavscaya d.31 k.1

Phone:+7 095 347-38-00, +7 095 346 99 77, Contact person: Ilyin Yuri

E-mail : [email protected] Web Site : www.hobbyforyou.ru

South Affrica:

MN Models; 27 Highstreet Oudtshoorn 6620 South Africa

Tel : +2782 890 6601 Fax: +2744 272 2222

Web: www.mnmodels.co.za Email: [email protected]


So, this would be Modellbau Pollack that is being sued?
I don't speak german, so maybe someone can translate some of that thread on the German site. The thread has been closed, I don't know why.

Gary Scrivens

Wiking

Mine is around 630c @ 160,000, so yours seems quite low.

Do you use jj pump

F.Pock

Hello,

i know this thread. The moderator of the forum has closed the thread, they will not get problems with someone.

My english is not the best, but what do you like to know?

Some customers talk about what the y can do because the product is not working or has not the specification what the seller is offer. It is right that they talk a lawsuit, but i think it has not be done in the moment.

EASYTIGER

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Thanks. So what Sandor said was not quite true?

How many people had problems? What kind? Were they, mostly, you think, user-related problems? Or real problems with the engines?

Gordon Mc

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Altavista crapped out when I tried to use it to translate the pages ; Google (http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en) did a bit better, translating about the first half of each page. Although there are some funny aspects to the translation, you can still get the gist of it. Seems like there are some people upset about the fact that certain turbine parts are disintegrating and "flying past their ears" when they try to run their engines.

EASYTIGER

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From everything I have heard, Modellbau Pollack is a very reputable company. I have heard this, I have not dealt with them myself...

EASYTIGER

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Can't trust a computer translation...
FEAR of parts flying past their ears, or parts actually flying past their ears?
I mean, MANY people had this fear here in america, many were convinced these engines would kill us all, did not happen yet...

ozextra62

It is quite amazing that the Jet Joe bashing is still continuing. There is no doubt there were issues with the JJ-1200, but after hours of searching I am yet to find a report of any disasterous failures with the JJ-1400. I know some one with a JJ-1400 and it runs great. The only issue was FADEC related. He had a very experienced turbine pilot strip it down and inspect it and all he could say was it was a perfect entry level engine.

rpmtech

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Not trying to be a smart ***** at all, but Whats an "entry level" turbine?

ozextra62

Sorry, should probably have said a good first turbine.

lov2flyrc

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Hmmm...again, not to be a smart ***** but " He had a very experienced turbine pilot strip it down and inspect it" How does being an "Experienced turbine pilot" qualify him as capable of inspecting an engine internally and commenting as to it's quality? Just curious [sm=confused.gif]...