OK, thanks Jon.

Whoops wocket, you are talking about a wireless shulman cam, sorry bud, the shulman cam that is a cvs cam, I can't find it on their website any more. But the flight taken with the cvs cam is at http://www.wheelstop.com/flying/DShulman_bbndt.wmv

Mark,
You have got to be kidding me with this reply, right? Schulman did not bring this to our attention, this camera has been hacked for several months now and Schulman is just trying to make money off of the hard work of others. Why should Mitty be pissed at the hackers. Lets see, you go to CVS buy the camera for 30.00, take the video and turn in the camera, pay 12.00 to get the video put on a DVD and they keep your camera. Then Puredigital recycles it and resells it back to you again for another 30.00. The hackers just found a way so you pay 30.00 once and use it over and over again. You should be applauding the hackers and not pure digital or schulman for trying to pull a fast one on everyone.



Woketman,
I just went out to the schulman site and found that they have taken the hacked CVS camera off of their website so you won't see it on there anymore. So I can understand your confusion as it is no longer there.



Jon,
I brought mine in to work with me today and one of our electronic engineers is going to take a look at it to see if he can find away to extend the lens away from the main unit. He said that he should have an answer for me by friday if this would be something simple or extremely complicated.


Patrick.

Sounds great!!! That's the only down side to the cam is that the lens is mounted to the board. It's fine for mounting on the side of the plane but can be awkward mounting to get a front or rear vid, unless you do the mirror thing..... a removeable lens would be great!!!!

Sean I think you're going to have a lot of PMs on that offer!!!! I may hit you up for a couple too!!

Patrick,

YOU must be kidding me! Without this thread, I wouldn't know about these hacked cameras. Without Schulman having one, I don't think this thread would exist.

Whoever is hacking these is causing the people at PureDigital to lose money. So how is Schulman any different than you. Just because he put a value on his work. Look around, not much in life is free. You vote with your wallet. That is the way it works. Don't knock a guy who simply is trying to make a few bucks.

Mark

If a large percentage of users got the hack to work (which I don't think they will BTW) then CVS will drop the camera, IMHO they loose money at 30 bucks each, the key for them was the recycling. CVS is not screwing anybody, they just need to make sure they have a decent security system for their business plan to work.

I would think these things in the free market would cost maybe 60 bucks.

that's a shame that someone like David Shulman would try to hit us so hard.

This is like the story of BVM's Aeropxy and this , some places you can even get them for $ 6.50

Matt, the hack is easy, not sure what you mean by large percentage able to get it to work. The camera is widely popular even without the hack. My local CVS said they are mostly sold to people who are having weddings, for basically 300 bucks plus the cost of the dvd's they get some cool memories.

As regards those who try the hack, my guess is that most who try will get it. All you do is take the camera apart, solder on four wires, load some software on your computer, and plug the usb cable in.

The hack is hardware in nature in that you just solder on the cable. The software does the rest. It's really so simple.

As regards what shulman was doing, I don't have a problem with that at all. When ebay first came out, I immediately found an online retailer that sold furniture, posted his picture from his site on Ebay, and added a hundred bucks. I sold over a hundred units making 10,000.00 over the first year ebay was in business cause people didn't know they could go to another site to buy the same furniture, they just assumed it was a good deal cause it was on ebay. I profited nicely from it. And I never ever not one time had one of the pieces of furniture on hand that I was selling on ebay. I'd get the order on ebay, email the order to the online retailer and pay with my address and ship to their address, what a deal!!

Too bad people have gotten more scrupulous in some ways about ebay and their knowlege of the net. First year I made 10K second year about 5K. I tried it again about a year ago and couldn't even get a bid, but that was for S and Giggles.

By the way, I've already got 5 guys paypal.com some cash my way for these cameras. Give me a week fellas and I'll have them out to you.

Sean

CJZ,
If you want a spoon fed information this project might not be for you.Look through the forum and learn .All possible questions and then smoe more are answered on that "messy' forum.Everything is organized there so take a 20 minute of time and read on.

I see another "Shulman" poped up on this thread ?? $50 for the cam is not as bad as 200+ but still a bit high.
$30 for camcorder plus 5 for cable (mine is free cuz i salvaged cord from old printer.) and about 10 minutes of work.However you fellows forget that Author of software did prohibit distribution of his software for comercial profit. It's for use free or not use at all.Of course he's not gonna sue you but IMHO it's still not fear to the guy.

Thank him for ripping off fellow modelers?? His nickname on forum is Zapped. I havent seen any hacks done or discovered by him.

Should i be pissed at all hackers?? Great folks like those 'hackers' made it possible for me,you others and schulman (at the end of the list ) to have affordable video setup which is not perfect but works.As of pure digital,if you care about PD so much why don't you buy a few(hundred) stocks of pure digital ,thus supporting the company!

With all due respect i am pissed...and not because his price is too high.If he would of came up with the hack then he would of had rights to name any price he could think of.But he didn't contribute to the hack even a tiny bit.All he did is duplicated someone's work-made a cable.Then on top of all that burned CD with the software that BillW wrote with GUI licence.It means that it's free and can't be legally sold and if distributed it has to be acompanied by source code.
Oh one more thing....You said hackers including you....Did YOU made any contributions to the forum??? Or just duplicated (as i did) the proven hacked design?

Thats my point.

Mitty

Sorry if i offended someone but schulman..

Mark,
What do you mean without schulman this thread would not exist? Are you trying to say that if he hadn't been a jacka** and tried to hose his fellow modelers that no one would know about them? Give me a break, I knew about them and sean knew about them. I was waiting to get one mounted to a jet and tested before I posted something that did not work on here. I can understand a few bucks, but come on a 700% markup is a little bit more than a few bucks. That's what's wrong with this country today, someone is always trying to take advantage of his fellow man. He is no better than these guys that try and take advantage of unsuspecting buyers. How would you feel if I sold someone in your family a car for 20,000 that was only worth 4,000. You would be pretty upset when you found out about and wished someone had told you about the swindler. I as well as everyone on this site work way too hard for our money.

You have your opinion and I have mine, unfortunately we probably won't see eye to eye on this one.


I also can make cameras if someone needs one. I will only charge what it costs to make the camera and shipping.

Patrick

Patric, on the 3.4's do you only need the software and the usb port? No hardware hack?

Are the camerahack links working? I cant seem to get to them from here?

mark

3.4 you only need software and cable. No hardware hacking necessary.

Patrick.

How can you determine what software version you have? Thanks.

This url should send you to the main page...enjoy. http://wikiwonka.dolske.net/index.php/Main_Page

Look at the bottom of the camera and it should say model 200. Also make sure that the tag with the camcoder processing information on top of the camera has a dark gray background. That should be the one that would not require any hardware hacking.

Regards
Ben

Patrick, I see your point however I wouldn't pay more than something is worth (to me). If I paid the $20,000 then the product was worth the $20,000. The same goes for the lights I purchased for my latest project. To me it was money well spent because there were no cheaper options, with full instruction, laying out for me to pick up.

As for these cameras. Obviously whomever took the risk of trying to make a profit on them should have known if they could hack them easily someone else would figure it out. That is the risk they took.

I for one will enjoy the hacked cameras and I hope you do too. I really appreciate your effort to bring this to my attention. What I don't like to see is another person being bashed for simply trying to make a few bucks. And honestly, I don't think it was you my first post was aimed at.

Oh, BTW in case you didn't know, as model jet owners we get hosed on a lot of stuff.

Mark

Again I do not see anything wrong with what the Shulman’s did. It is called free enterprise and it is left to the customer to be frugal with his/her money. My only objection is the fact that they used somebody elses shareware without paying any royalities to the person in this case (BillW for writing Ops, Corscaria, etc…etc).

One things I emphasise to my students is never to participate in anytype of software piracy. It takes a lot of neuron exercise to come up with a well designed software. JMOHO.

Mine does indeed say Model 200, but the label on top is a light gray color, NOT dark gray. Is there a definitive label telling software version inside or something? I'd read all of that stuff, but I am in Huntsville on dial up and it takes sooooo long to load!

Hold down the record and delete buttons while turning on the camera. The firmware version will then be displayed

Dave

Woketman

Dave's statement above is correct. I did not know you have one already. I thought you wanted to know how to figure it out when you get to CVS.

Go ahead and give it the nerve pinch and it will display the version for you as stated by Dave.

Thanks Dave. I have 3.40! Woooooooooo WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Hmmmmmm.... the set of lights in this video cost < $40.00 to build. Enjoy this video http://media.putfile.com/roo2.

You don't have to be a rocket scientest to easily put one together. Sorry woketman......no pun intended.