jetnuno,
You say the flats are upside down. Can you swap the elevators left/right? Are they symetrical? Just guessing of course as I don't own the plane in question.

Bingo Bob.

That is it. I think they really messed things up..........the guy that put the shaft in did not knew what he was doing.

In the F16 there is NO WAY the horn goes down. The plywood former does not allow it. It as to work upwards

Thamks for the cyano tip. should work.

Causeitflies - No you can not, because elevators have negative diedhral.

Regds

We call that anhedral in the western world and yes the stabs can be swapped but the paint scheme would be reversed.

Thunderbird scheme is the same top and bottom.

ok i see what you mean i can only put my stabs one way due to the colour scheme and this puts the flat side at the bottom on mine. Sorry i know that doesn't help you are you sure you cant put them on the other way around they look identical to me.

on another note can someone help with the fuel tank post i put up earlier how have you guys glued them in or velcro ?? do you push them as far forward as they go or as far back to where they touch the body or the turbine hatch.

Cheers
rob.

My elevators are thye same as jetnuno's with the flat on the shaft at the top. Pretty poor!!
I am quite sure FEJ will rectify this problem after a few of us email them.

Pretty Poor??? it's the exact same setup that Sky Master uses, it works with no problems. you just need the proper control horns for the new setup.

Yes, we need the correct horns for the set-up which we need from FEJ to suit our elevators.
I meant it is poor that FEJ didn't recocnise the incongruity and supply the correct horns with the new elevators, OR supply us with the flat in the shaft in the correct position to suit our original horns.

If I were to glue mine in, it would be with sho-goo. That way I could take them out. Velcro sounds like a good idea as well

My F16 plus turned up this week. The only problem I have seen so far is that I cannot get the tanks out. I have read earlier on this thread that I should change the bungs and I would like to install felt clunks BUT I cannot get the tanks out because the intake ducting is already installed and this prevents the tank removal??

With regards my Rafale, I was hoping to maiden it this week but the second set of door rams sent by eagle are still leaking so unless I can sort this it will have to be posponed [&o]

Regards
Paul

i had the same problem just give them a bit of a tug into the centre of the plane from the rear of the tank and they come out fine.

Rob

Hi

I have mine glued with silicone and pushed back as much as I can

Regds

Hi

The elevators in the F16 can not be swaped from left to right due to the anhedralGot it right this time,ah.....

The side surface of the inner chord of the elevator it is not perpendicular to the shaft, thus not allowing the change. It does not matter the colour scheme. You just CAN NOT DO IT.

What realy worries me is that I have saw that other F16 have the slot in the shaft in the downside position, while mine is in the upper position. The horn I need as to be mounted upwards with the slot in the shaft mounted upwards as well.

I am aware now that FlyEagle as understood the issue and are working to find a solution, so report your situation as well, please.

I am trying to find a photo of a suitable horn to post here.

Regds

Nuno

DREAM IS OVER[sm=thumbs_down.gif]

I think more tahn one thought that Fly Eagle Jets will be the dream of all of us... A good product for a rasonable price.
THERE IS NO MORE DREAM!

I am a jet flyer and I was condsidering buying one of these jets, but I was following the growth of the company and I am very disappointed.
They adopted the same philosophy and marketing tactics as other companies playing with demand.
Prices are increasing almost every month.

If you see the page 2 of this forum you can see that the F16 for example, started at $900... and now this kit will cost more than $1800 next mounth!!!! and this was less than 2 mounth ago.
I don´t believe that inflation is hitting China!!

I think that they are reaching the Skymaster, Jetlegend, X-tremejets... prices and they have products with a lot of things to improve as you can read in this forum...
If they don´t change the tactic, they will reach a moment that the customers will have to choose among the biggest and they... and the response is obvious

My two cents...

From my reaserch $1800 for a 1/8 scale F16 with scale retracts and doos, tanks etc fully installed with cockpit and missiles is still a great deal compared to others out there in the market place. I understand a lot of people are amazed at the quality of the FE jet products when they open the box. Does the cost of living go up where you live??? It certainly does where I live. If you cannot afford it go back to prop planes. I have no issue with the value here.

Mav

Like most other businesses, they will charge as much as the market will take. If they find orders tailing off, then we will see prices come down. In the present economic climate, there will be less customers to go round & prices may decrease generally as competitors try to attract as many of the available purchasers. It is a self regulating process.
I certainly spend less than I used to.

Just reporting on the control horn update from FEJ, I emailed them about our problem with the new ally shaft elevators and here is what they said:

"Hi Sir:

Yes, we are aware this new and producing new offset for customers who got free elevators. We will send new offset to you soon."

So all is good. they are willing to rectify the problem, I am happy with that response I just hope it doesn't take a month before i see them.

Those prices were introductory prices because they keep releasing new products, now you are *****ing because they are bringing the prices up ? I can't even understand how they manage to make a profit selling those kits at those prices. Just take the scale landing gears of the advanced f-16 and bring it to your local machine shop and ask them how much to make 250 of them you'll understand how cheap those kits are. The standard f-16 is 1250$, cheaper than most 35% prop ARFs. Obviously if you think 1250$ for a kit like this is too much then you need to go back to .40 sized glow models. No need to cry here that there is NO MORE DREAM! because they are raising the introductory prices...

FEJ's cost the same as most other name brands out there, they just happen to toss in the retracts/wheels/brakes/pipe/fuel tanks for free with purchase.

No one likes to pay more for anything they originally paid a very low price for but as KC36330 said, the base price is roughly the same as say Skymaster BUT with skymaster you have to pay for the "extras" as extra. the same F-16 from Skymaster will cost about double with the extras like U/C,tanks,air kit, doors etc....

Here here. Would you rather they keep their prices low, not make any profit at all, go broke, close the factory and then you lose all the support for existing customers and go back to paying much more for less by their competitors????? As mentioned now a few times. Go back to high wing prop planes and the DREAM will return!

Mav

Hey "Richie Rich" Mav....


I thought only in buy one and I read that, as they have good things, they have a lot of things to improve... as expected in a company that recently began... and this is not consistent with double the prices in two months, nothing more.

I think that you didn´t understand what is the point....

You see... you talk about the support, here you have a point... if this company increase the prices as they did, you will have an increase in costs of spare parts, and other things that you may (and always) need... and I don´t think that you buy a product thinking that, if you did it you are not normal...

As MAX NITRO said, no one likes to pay more for anything they originally paid a very low price.

An original answer is the one that gave KC36330, pratorian, or Jascat100 for example, not yours.

The issue is deeper than what you may or may not buy with your money.

This is a forum of discussion, I am not trying to impose anything, just giving my opinion and listening to others to know if I'm wrong.

Sorry, but I don´t need you to tell what I have or not to do if i have or not the money...

As I told you, this is not the point, is the behaivor of the companies, more knowing that a lot of things are copy-paste.

M.-

That's not even close. If you're going to compare prices you need to compare apples to apples.

I bought one of their first kits last December. My F-16 Tiger Meet at the introductory price was $888 plus $250 shipping, or $1138 delivered to the US. Today that same kit costs $1238 plus $110 shipping, or $1348. So today's price is only $210 more than the introductory sale price. Obviously FEJ is now subsidizing the shipping and weren't during their introduction. As far as I'm concerned this is still one of the best bargains in the hobby.

The Advanced F-16 version is more money and includes a lot more content; scale gear, cockpit kit, 3rd fuel tank, and (I believe) a set of missiles. Both versions are available so you have a choice. In either case it's significantly less than the nearest competition. Additionally they have been very helpful and responsive to any questions or concerns. No doubt I'll be purchasing from them again.

Joe

good reply joeflyer.

Think this is getting a little off topic guys? Obviously. Fly Eagle is raising their prices??? DUHHHHH!!! Fact of life, prices go up.

Monkeyking, would you expect to work you entire life for the same amount of pay you had with your very first job? I think not. Fly Eagle has come out with a quality product with tons of features for 1/2 the price of their competitors. As the cost of materials, facilities and labor to manufacture goes up (overhead), as well as demand for the product, a smart business person raises prices when the market will bear them, that is the only way a company can survive. They can raise their prices even more and people will still buy as they are a good deal. Only if the competition, who has enjoyed a run at the upper pricing echelon of the market lowers their prices and doesn't reduce quality, will FEJ have to reconsider pricing. They are not low quality planes for a cheap price, they offer a quality product and UNMATCHED customer support, period. I have been in this hobby for over 25 years, and have never had the help and support that I get from this company, even if it is just with technical questions and not defective products. If you feel the dream is over, all I can say is your loss. There is a large group of us that will glady step in line and purchase from Fly Eagle. That way you can brag about how much you spent on your turbine, while the rest of us have a great quality great flying aircraft, that is virtualy identical, for roughly 1/2 the price. Oh yeah, and good luck getting parts from "the other guy" as well