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Old 09-26-2019, 10:27 AM
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Looks great Alex! For a huge airplane it has really nice lines.
Old 09-26-2019, 01:28 PM
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Really nice to see it in final shape. I didn't see that much sweep in the vertical from early depictions...looks very cool. You know, with that degree of perfection in the balsa skin work and knowing you're going to cover all surfaces, you really should consider various colors of transparent film. When she looks that good naked, why put clothes on her.
Old 09-26-2019, 11:54 PM
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Thanks a lot guys.
From the pictures it was difficult for me to imagine how it will look like in the end, so i used the images posted above as background in my CAD software and by carefully matching the camera angles and field of view, i managed to add the computer generated cowl, canopy and landing gear.
The camera lens distorts the proportions quite a bit so in real life the front end is not so large compared to the tail. The sweep in the vertical tail is also an effect of the camera lens perspective, in reality the trailing edge of the rudder is perfectly vertical. The CAD images from the first post in this thread should give a much better impression of the shapes and proportions because the camera lens has a much lower field of view (less perspective distortion).

Unfortunately this is as far as i could get with the Vortex project before moving, so it will take a while before i can get back to it but i will continue to post the rest of the building instructions using CAD images.




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Old 09-27-2019, 04:40 PM
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Well it looks really good! Have you made the cowl and canopy molds yet? I will miss your up dates, hope you can get back at it soon.
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The plugs are almost finished and the the molds should be done in about week. Most that have ordered want contest balsa and I'm just waiting for it to be delivered. I should have it all coming together in a week or so.

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Old 09-28-2019, 09:15 AM
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Hey Don. I've not seen good old red nitro glazing putty for twenty years, LOL. Brings back memories, surprised they still make the stuff. Not picking at you as it's perfectly fine for such an applications. I'm wondering, have you eliminated the cooling fairings, leaving these up to the individual modelers to fashion as they like? Also, is the final choice to go with zero thrust offset and leave any changes to that for the individual modelers as well? Thanks, Ted.
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Hey Alex. We'll miss "The Alex's Vortex Show" till the new fall season debuts, same channel, same time. I would imagine the characters will remain and there will be outdoor filming scenes as well. It's been the most exciting forum for awhile, heh, heh. Good luck with your move, Ted.
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No I didn't forget the cooling fairings they got put on today. those pictures are a week ago.
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Looks good Don, please let me know when the kits are ready...patiently waiting
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Don,

do you have a price point yet for the kit?
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My own Vortex is starting to look like a plane now

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Don,

do you have a price point yet for the kit?
I've made , bought and ordered everything for the kits. I have the landing gear, wing tubes tubes, stab tubes in stock. I ordered as much contest balsa as all my suppliers had and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I'm still working on the price there are a lot of sheets that go into cutting everything and I don't want to miss anything when I set the price.
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Hey Krille, looks good. Just realized the massive size when compared to that bottle and Dremel on the bench!
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Originally Posted by Krille
My own Vortex is starting to look like a plane now
Great work, and even more impressive considering that you made all that in less than a month !
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Originally Posted by frequent flyer
I've made , bought and ordered everything for the kits. I have the landing gear, wing tubes tubes, stab tubes in stock. I ordered as much contest balsa as all my suppliers had and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I'm still working on the price there are a lot of sheets that go into cutting everything and I don't want to miss anything when I set the price.
Yes it is a big bird, here it's compared to my wind s. The vortex fin is about 18cm taller then the wind s 🙂



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Hi Alex,
really great design you did. I'd like to build one, too.
I plan to make the parts on a CNC drilling machine.
Would you be willing to share the original dxf files, so that I can create the input files for the drilling machine?

Cheers,
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They should be on the first page.
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Originally Posted by Push
Hi Alex,
really great design you did. I'd like to build one, too.
I plan to make the parts on a CNC drilling machine.
Would you be willing to share the original dxf files, so that I can create the input files for the drilling machine?

Cheers,
Ro
Hi Ro,
You can find the drawings in the first post in this thread: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/12531336-post1.html
You can also find the 3D models for reference in post #4.

Anyway, please read carefully this part of the post:
"All the major structural parts are found inside the “Laser Cutting Files” folder - I do not recommend cutting these parts on a CNC router! To ensure proper interlocking between parts, I used a small offset to compensate for the width of the laser beam. This offset is quite small for soft balsa or liteply parts (0.15mm) but it can be double for tough materials like the 3mm hard plywood. If you use a CNC router, you will have to sand off this small offset to make the parts fit."
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Originally Posted by chuck4816s
Don,

do you have a price point yet for the kit?
Just got 10 grand worth of Contest balsa delivered two days ago and I'm working on my cost today.
Old 10-22-2019, 03:31 AM
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What would it take to add a motorbox and a pipe tunnel for a gas engine??

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Don is working on a wet power conversion for the Vortex. Email him ( [email protected] ) for details.
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These are the images of the new cowl to accommodate the YS Engine.
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How does one modify the trailing edge of an airfoil to make it "thicker"?
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My suggestion would be to build one and fly it first.
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Originally Posted by GootyS
How does one modify the trailing edge of an airfoil to make it "thicker"?
The trailing edge is 8mm thick at the wing root and 5mm at the tip. If you want to make it thicker, you can simply cut the trailing edge to get the desired thickness, sand it and apply a 2-2.5mm balsa strip.


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