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Misc notes.
Wheel pants, carbon spinner, alum wing/stab tubes 7/8", 7/16, wing/stab adjusters, 2 piece carbon gear measures about 7" come with it. Canopy, chin bolt on with 2 4-40 bolts w/dowels in rear. All hinged surfaces are center beveled. Wing adjusters need to be installed, stab adjusters are preinstalled. I'll post some weights later.
Wheel pants, carbon spinner, alum wing/stab tubes 7/8", 7/16, wing/stab adjusters, 2 piece carbon gear measures about 7" come with it. Canopy, chin bolt on with 2 4-40 bolts w/dowels in rear. All hinged surfaces are center beveled. Wing adjusters need to be installed, stab adjusters are preinstalled. I'll post some weights later.
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Here's some weights I worked up for a Hacker 14xl setup. 77 hackermaster esc, 22x12, 10s3p prolites 6000mah. I've substituted pbg carbon tubes, and have the 9" carbon gear Central hobbies selling. Leaves me about 10oz to play with for wiring, motor mount, batt mount, misc. Might be close but I think it looks good to make 11lbs.
Rudder 2.3
chin 3.5
canopy 5.5
gear 4.1
spinner 1.2
l stab 3.2
rt stab 3.3
wp(2) 1.6
rt wing 12.1
lft wing 12.1
horn/clevis-4 0.4
9650-2 1.8
9150-2 3.8
9151 1.8
tires-2 1
axel-2 0.4
tw 0.4
adjust-2 0.6
ubec 0.7
14xl/nuts 19.9
fuse 32.5
batts/conn/velcro 43.6
wing tube 1.7
tail tube 0.4
esc 2.1
switch 0.7
prop 4.2
rx 1.2
tot oz 166.1
oz left (176) 9.9
wt lbs 10.38125
Rudder 2.3
chin 3.5
canopy 5.5
gear 4.1
spinner 1.2
l stab 3.2
rt stab 3.3
wp(2) 1.6
rt wing 12.1
lft wing 12.1
horn/clevis-4 0.4
9650-2 1.8
9150-2 3.8
9151 1.8
tires-2 1
axel-2 0.4
tw 0.4
adjust-2 0.6
ubec 0.7
14xl/nuts 19.9
fuse 32.5
batts/conn/velcro 43.6
wing tube 1.7
tail tube 0.4
esc 2.1
switch 0.7
prop 4.2
rx 1.2
tot oz 166.1
oz left (176) 9.9
wt lbs 10.38125
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RE: Genisis pics
Hi
awesome looking plane can we please have some more pics of the fuselage areas and the wings etc. They havent even got pics on there web site yet. How did you get one so quick
thanks
troy
awesome looking plane can we please have some more pics of the fuselage areas and the wings etc. They havent even got pics on there web site yet. How did you get one so quick
thanks
troy
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Hi Everyone
how wide is the fuselage near the wing seat and at the rear tail post is the genisis ? I am just trying to compare it to the eclipse. Thanks for any information
Troy
how wide is the fuselage near the wing seat and at the rear tail post is the genisis ? I am just trying to compare it to the eclipse. Thanks for any information
Troy
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Todd..... Maybe another motor with less cells would work well, and keep the total weight down, this would have the second advantage of not requiring as much money to get performance. my limited experience has been that most people grossly overpower their electric models...either to " impress the glo guys" ( which it doesn't)
or just because they can, and hang the cost. I don't know who does your calculations, but what if you calculated your stall speed, then use a pitch speed of 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 times the stall speed?
You likely will find that you can get much more thrust than the model weighs, adequate speed, and cut the cost and weight factor way down on your power system. Aerobatics is not really speed related,within reason, so who cares if your model is not super fast ( 90 mph??) most don't fly that fast anyway, maybe if the max speed was about 55 or 60 mph. but the thrust was over 12 pounds ???
or just because they can, and hang the cost. I don't know who does your calculations, but what if you calculated your stall speed, then use a pitch speed of 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 times the stall speed?
You likely will find that you can get much more thrust than the model weighs, adequate speed, and cut the cost and weight factor way down on your power system. Aerobatics is not really speed related,within reason, so who cares if your model is not super fast ( 90 mph??) most don't fly that fast anyway, maybe if the max speed was about 55 or 60 mph. but the thrust was over 12 pounds ???
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Todd,
After seeing how well Bryan's, Stephen's and your Genesis flew at the Jetero contest, I have decided I got to have one. I am planning on the electric version and would use my Hacker C50 14XL motor and TP6000 10s3p Gen II Light batteries.
Question - what is the typical final weights of the electric Genesis?
Also I need some fresh ideas on battery and elevator installations. Please post some photos.
Regards,
Steve
After seeing how well Bryan's, Stephen's and your Genesis flew at the Jetero contest, I have decided I got to have one. I am planning on the electric version and would use my Hacker C50 14XL motor and TP6000 10s3p Gen II Light batteries.
Question - what is the typical final weights of the electric Genesis?
Also I need some fresh ideas on battery and elevator installations. Please post some photos.
Regards,
Steve
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Does anyone have any updated information on the Genesis? Any problems since building or flying?
Anyone have any direct comparisons with the Impact? I have been looking at both and the long thread here on RCU covers the Impact pretty well. Definately a few concerns from reading the thread although obvioulsy many have had good success with it.
There is a significant cost difference, for those who have experience with both is the quality/prefabrication worth the difference (in your opinion)?
Thanks,
Stuart C
Anyone have any direct comparisons with the Impact? I have been looking at both and the long thread here on RCU covers the Impact pretty well. Definately a few concerns from reading the thread although obvioulsy many have had good success with it.
There is a significant cost difference, for those who have experience with both is the quality/prefabrication worth the difference (in your opinion)?
Thanks,
Stuart C
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Hi! Might also be getting the Genisis soon. What does the ARF glow version come with? Does it come with a hyde mount and all the necessary control linkages? If so, what kind of control lingkage? Thanks.
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I just received my semi-kit. It is not even in the ARC form, just the fuselage, sheeted wings, elevators, and rudder, and minor parts. Something that struck me is the lack of carbon fiber / kevlar / other exotic fibers. My plane is 100% fiberglass, even the firewall is glassed balsa (my Eclipse had a carbon fiber firewall) Plane will powered by a Webra 1.60. Futaba servos for the surfaces (9550 ailerons, 9651 elevator, 9450 rudder) plus a Hitec 81 for throttle (no fancy MC carb here...)
I am thinking of getting rid of the pipe floor (again glassed balsa). Do you guys think the exposed pipe will transmit too much heat to the inside of the plane?
I am thinking of getting rid of the pipe floor (again glassed balsa). Do you guys think the exposed pipe will transmit too much heat to the inside of the plane?