Show us how you get on, where a freindly lot and always interested in what others are doing.

Mike

Glow conversion.
Anybody knows where to place the servo tray?

You have to deceid where to place the servo tray according to how you mount your motor and where the carb/throttle linkage ends up, if you are using a pump to get the fuel tank on the C of G and many other variables, mount your motor taking into account where the exhaust is going and deceid from there.

Mike

Glow conversion OS 55AX

Great looking Angel jlacu....

No matter what color or drive system they all look fantastic....

The yellow Angel has officially arrived in the UK, I have been informed that I have the first one out of the new importer, supplied to me by Luigi of "F1 Models" in Sittingbourne Kent.

Its the nice touches in the SebArt kits that give you confidence in what you have bought, full length ply reinforcement to the packaging, Silicon paper wrapping to the inside box, presumably to prevent the ingress of moisture, even the carbon spar was wrapped in silicon paper to protect it and all the other components wrapped in plastic, I loved the silicon tube on the end of the wing retention ply tongue.

This one is going to be an IC version as I already have a long in the tooth electric one, I did an IC conversion for a pal of mine some time ago before the conversion kit was available it was so easy I have not bothered to get the extra bits as I have so much laying around I am bound to have most of it anyway, will post some pics when I get around to starting the home made conversion.

Mike

I have completed the pipe tunnel for the Angel, its now with WestonUk for a Genisis pipe fitting, will post more when it comes back.

Mike

Hey Guys,
Just on that one, i have had the nut come off my Angel on one side of the rudder... I built it out of the book and tightened it all with no thread locker or anything.

found out after maiden it had come loose. and had come off. so i now have put thread locker on them and have had no probs.


rcflyboy

This is my 4th Sebart plane and althought I didn't really like the looks of the plane after flying it I decided it was as pretty as an Angel.

I am using the Hacker A50-12s, 15/10 prop and 6s2p A-123 pack. The plane flies like it is on rails and I get about 8 minutes of pattern type flying time with 1 minute for landing. I do most of the pattern @ half throttle and vertical is decent.
I have used the A-123s in all the Sebart planes except for the large Sukohi. I like the A-123s because I need only one pack and I can recharge them in the plane @ 20 amps...full charge in 7-8 minutes. I don't need to remove the canopy to recharge the A-123s as I have a built in charge jack on the fueslage.

I did make a change on the rudder servo placement...........I installed the servo in the rear of the fuselage a little to the rear on on the other side of the elevator servo. I am not a big fan of the pull-pull system.

I think the plane is a keeper as are all the Sebart planes.

Edit:
Nealy forgot..........as with the other Sebart planes I have owned I always pin the hinges to the flying surfaces using toothpicks. I learned the hard way and damaged one of my planes when one side of my elevator pulled loose.

Couple of questions for you ICguys:

First, I'm brand-new to glow and am considering glow for this plane due to battery costs/charging hassle.

1) Would you use a soft mount on this plane? Why or why not? If yes, what brand/model?

2) What do you use for a battery/power supply to power the receiver & servos?

Thanks,

Bill

No, I didn't think it necessary, and experience with my setup (.50 2-stroke) has confirmed that. A guy at my Club uses a YS .63 with no problems on a normal nylon mount.
I just use a small-capacity NiMh 4-cell pack (around 800mAh) for lightness, gives me 3 flights safely then recharge if required. I deliberately kept it simple, inexpensive and light and it WORKS!

Regards, Bill

It may not be necessary, but you are always better off using a soft mount, especially if using a 4 stroke. Even the small YS stuff bangs around pretty good. They Hyde mounts are expensive, but they do pay for themselves with the amount of wear and tear saved on servos and airframe. With the smaller engines there are quite a few options out there and they all work, some better than others. They also significantly reduce the amount of current drawn from servos and such. For the servos pretty much any pack in the 1000mah range would be more than enough. With a Hyde LRI 85 mount on my 2m plane, I'm using less than 200mah per flight (10 minutes average), AND running of the CDI unit with the servos. I personally run 2S LiPo packs regulated for all my RX stuff and have great luck with them. I'm in 2m stuff I run the tech aero dual regulator setup with 2 batteries as it gives me redundancy with the security of the "perfect switch" setup, so that if something fails, it fails on, which takes switch failure out as a problem.

Arch

For the sake of redundency I run two battery packs into two fail on switches, two elevator seros, two rudder servos on seperate cables and four aileron servos I also have another motor on the back to push in case the one on the front goes dead stick, two sets of undercarridge and two tail wheels to compensate the weight, the fuel tank is divided in two with two clunks in each half, the only thing I have left to do is work out how I will get the damm thing off the ground.

Mike

In case someone else reads this and part quote's it, ITS A JOKE.

I'm planning to go with 2 2S lipos for my Impact Electric. Any suggestions for regulator and switches? I was going to use 800 MAh lipos. My previous planes had standard servos and I used a 2000 mah NiMH. With the digitals and the 2.4 power requirements I just don't feel safe.

Bill, I converted my Angel S to IC power, after flying it for two years with the recommended Hacker set-up, and I am very pleased. I now have a Y.S. 63 installed with a Hyde soft mount and a Hatori muffler and header. This is a very quiet and powerful combination and performs much better than the electric version. I had to experiment with props and ended up with an APC 13X6. The performance is outstanding and I enjoy flying the Angel more than ever. I'm using a 10 oz. tank mounted on the CG, and a 10 minute flight only uses a little more than half a tank of fuel. For the receiver pack, I'm using the new Hobbico 1100 mah Life pack. A 10 minute flight drains about 50-60 mah. so no worries there. I use the Angel S to practice the intermedite sequence and it makes for a very economical practice plane.....RS

WOW . . all sounds like good promotion for Electric, Arch

JB

Hi guys,

Just order it !!!

Recommendations for servo ?

Power setup is going to be a Turnigy 80plush and an SK motor

Regards !

I use DS821's in both my electric and my IC Angel without any problems, the electric version is comming up to 2.5 years old and 200 odd flights, they are inexpensive, digital and seem to last well.

Mike

Thanks Mike !!!

I have on the self a bunch of futaba s3010 and 5 hitec 5645 metal gear.

DS821 is an interesting proposal since I'm a JR pilot, I didn't thought about it.

Regards from Greece

Hitec 5645's are a very good servo in my opinion, but are a touch heavy for the Angel, I use them for flaps in my turbines so a bit overkill if you know what I mean, the Futaba 3010 are perfect, better than the DS821's as the centering on them is not in the same class, not that I notice in flight, but its what I have been told.

Mike

Mike,

I got it.

Googling and speaking with a friend from my club he proposed what he's is using, the s3152, which cost is logical, around 25Euro.

I think I'm gonna stick on them.

I have another question, if any friend here is using DX9 or 9303 what are the throws and exponential you guys are using ?
If any mix is also utilised or any differential ?

Best Regards,
Tasos

Arn't the 3152 the thin wing servo's, if they are you will have a lot of unnecesary work making them fit, also I think the Hitec "3" series servo's are Analog the "5" series are Digital, I would always recommend Digital over Analog just for their accuracy and holding ability I just don't use Analog anymore, try a simple test for yourself, put an Analog servo onto your Rx and give a command from your Tx then just push on the servo arm it will move under a small amount of pressure, try that with a Digital and it will protest and burst its gears before it will move from the commanded position.

For the control set up, just go with the recommended set up in the instructions they are spot on.

Mike

Seen this done once a long time ago but without the divider, theory was there should be at least one clunk in the fuel at any one time..........

Needless to say that plane wrote itself off with a deadstick into some big trees, I wonder why..

Hello,

I'm looking for suitable batteries for my friend's Angel. It will be built with recommended Hacker A50-16S motor. I have got positive feedback about Rhino batteries. What do you think, which one is better, Rhino or Zippy Flightmax. And Which size, 4000mAh? It should be 6s with 50-16S motor. The plane will be for F3A training and competing, so the battery will have to last through the F3A sequence and it has to be possible to use high thorttle during some time. In a strong wind a lot of throttle has to be used especially with smaller planes like this.

My Angel is powered by YS63 with Hatori muffler and it flies nicely. With 30% fuel there is enough power for F3A. RPM with 13*6 APC prop is about 12000. My plane weighs about 2,9kg with empty tank. Tank is placed on the CG. My servos are DS821 and S3115 for throttle. They seem to be ok. It tooks about 40-50mAh per flight. Batteries are 2x Hyperion G3 1100mAh with Emcotec micro dual battery switch/regulator system. Very nice setup which seems to be reliable.