Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
06-29-2010 | 10:58 AM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
Keith those parts go together to make an air deflector that mounts on the motor box, it will take a little trimming to get them to fit inside the cowl. Helps direct air right over the motor.
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06-29-2010 | 12:27 PM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
That's what I suspected. . . I did the exact same thing on my MkI. My royalty check must have gotten lost in the mail. . . . :-)
06-29-2010 | 12:49 PM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
mine is ~40 oz and ~51 oz, no batt and w/ batt respectively. Flies pattern style great, haven't tried any harriers with it and don't intend to.
06-29-2010 | 03:07 PM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
I see Hitec has an HS82mg servo that's just a little bit bigger than the hs65, with a little more torque I may try one of these. Should I use a metal gear on the rudder as well, the rudder is pretty good size?
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06-29-2010 | 10:12 PM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
I found these servos that HobbyK has that I believe will work very well in my new MkII.
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[link=http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6608]Servos[/link]
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06-30-2010 | 08:20 AM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
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That's what I suspected. . . I did the exact same thing on my MkI. My royalty check must have gotten lost in the mail. . . . :-)
That's what I suspected. . . I did the exact same thing on my MkI. My royalty check must have gotten lost in the mail. . . . :-)
I bought batteries from Bobby Partz as you recommended. What adapters would I need for the charger and balancer? I have the small Thunder Power charger and stand alone TP balancer.
Thanks
06-30-2010 | 10:12 AM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
Matt,
Hopefully someone can back me up here, but the connector on these batteries ( http://www.hobbypartz.com/83p-2200mah-4s1p-148-20c.html ) looks like the Thunder Power adapters. I only have FMA CellPro LiPo's right now, but have the TP adapters and as best I can tell it looks like that is what these batteries have. I just ordered a couple of the blue LiPo's like Matt from HobbyKing. However, once my PayPal cleared I got an e-mail from them saying my order may take up to 45 (yes, Forty-Five) days to arrive. [
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I know the HobbyKing people always reply to my e-mails quickly (they're 12 hours ahead of us), so I'm sure HobbyPartz guys would too.
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Hopefully the industry can settle on one stinkin' balance connector soon, but I doubt it. Until then, you just gotta have a fist full of adapters. . .
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Did you get or have access to a Watt meter? Personally, I'm a big fan of the Eagle Tree system. The data logger is the size of a small receiver and you can take it up for a flight then download it to your laptop and see what your system is doing in the air. There is also a small LCD "screen" for ground use without a laptop. Also, you can use it on your wet airplanes for all kinds of stuff like in-flight RPM, cylinder head temperature, servo amp draw, ect.
Hopefully someone can back me up here, but the connector on these batteries ( http://www.hobbypartz.com/83p-2200mah-4s1p-148-20c.html ) looks like the Thunder Power adapters. I only have FMA CellPro LiPo's right now, but have the TP adapters and as best I can tell it looks like that is what these batteries have. I just ordered a couple of the blue LiPo's like Matt from HobbyKing. However, once my PayPal cleared I got an e-mail from them saying my order may take up to 45 (yes, Forty-Five) days to arrive. [
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I know the HobbyKing people always reply to my e-mails quickly (they're 12 hours ahead of us), so I'm sure HobbyPartz guys would too.
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Hopefully the industry can settle on one stinkin' balance connector soon, but I doubt it. Until then, you just gotta have a fist full of adapters. . .
.
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Did you get or have access to a Watt meter? Personally, I'm a big fan of the Eagle Tree system. The data logger is the size of a small receiver and you can take it up for a flight then download it to your laptop and see what your system is doing in the air. There is also a small LCD "screen" for ground use without a laptop. Also, you can use it on your wet airplanes for all kinds of stuff like in-flight RPM, cylinder head temperature, servo amp draw, ect.
06-30-2010 | 10:38 AM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
ORIGINAL: klhoard
Matt,
Hopefully someone can back me up here, but the connector on these batteries ( http://www.hobbypartz.com/83p-2200mah-4s1p-148-20c.html ) looks like the Thunder Power adapters. I only have FMA CellPro LiPo's right now, but have the TP adapters and as best I can tell it looks like that is what these batteries have. I just ordered a couple of the blue LiPo's like Matt from HobbyKing. However, once my PayPal cleared I got an e-mail from them saying my order may take up to 45 (yes, Forty-Five) days to arrive. []
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.
I know the HobbyKing people always reply to my e-mails quickly (they're 12 hours ahead of us), so I'm sure HobbyPartz guys would too.
.
.
Hopefully the industry can settle on one stinkin' balance connector soon, but I doubt it. Until then, you just gotta have a fist full of adapters. . .
.
.
Did you get or have access to a Watt meter? Personally, I'm a big fan of the Eagle Tree system. The data logger is the size of a small receiver and you can take it up for a flight then download it to your laptop and see what your system is doing in the air. There is also a small LCD ''screen'' for ground use without a laptop. Also, you can use it on your wet airplanes for all kinds of stuff like in-flight RPM, cylinder head temperature, servo amp draw, ect.
Matt,
Hopefully someone can back me up here, but the connector on these batteries ( http://www.hobbypartz.com/83p-2200mah-4s1p-148-20c.html ) looks like the Thunder Power adapters. I only have FMA CellPro LiPo's right now, but have the TP adapters and as best I can tell it looks like that is what these batteries have. I just ordered a couple of the blue LiPo's like Matt from HobbyKing. However, once my PayPal cleared I got an e-mail from them saying my order may take up to 45 (yes, Forty-Five) days to arrive. [
].
.
I know the HobbyKing people always reply to my e-mails quickly (they're 12 hours ahead of us), so I'm sure HobbyPartz guys would too.
.
.
Hopefully the industry can settle on one stinkin' balance connector soon, but I doubt it. Until then, you just gotta have a fist full of adapters. . .
.
.
Did you get or have access to a Watt meter? Personally, I'm a big fan of the Eagle Tree system. The data logger is the size of a small receiver and you can take it up for a flight then download it to your laptop and see what your system is doing in the air. There is also a small LCD ''screen'' for ground use without a laptop. Also, you can use it on your wet airplanes for all kinds of stuff like in-flight RPM, cylinder head temperature, servo amp draw, ect.
I purchased the 30C, 2200 mah from HobbyPartz....18$ and change and are in stock as of this morning. Don't know if the 2200s will do for you but they are available today.
I am not sure if the battery terminal is available though; it's a male-female bullet configuration. What I've seen in the various websites is 2 male or 2 female bullet type but not both in the same connector.
07-07-2010 | 11:45 AM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
ORIGINAL: klhoard
Yes, you're going to need to replace the battery connector with a Deans. At least that connector is universal.
Yes, you're going to need to replace the battery connector with a Deans. At least that connector is universal.
Power loading however tends to be around 300W per lb for the better 2M set-ups. And I've flown one e-setup (Dave Lockhart's) that is closer to 350W per lb.; very sporty. I seriously doubt that we'll get that kind of output from the Torque/Airboss/2200 mah-4S powerplant.
What kind of watt numbers are you guys getting from this combo? Airboss Rated at 45 amps continuous, the best one can hope for with a 15V battery is around 600 W continuous and maybe 800W burst? That's about 200W per lb....maybe that's adequate and my apologies for the e-newbie commentary
07-07-2010 | 12:26 PM
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Having previously owned a V1, the setup is fine Matt. I'd go for slightly larger capacity battery if you purchase additional packs(at least 2500ma) and a lower C rating (20-25C)
07-07-2010 | 07:23 PM
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Matt,
You're going to love flying it. . . I am using FMA 4S-3300Mah batteries, and I would say that those are just a little too heavy for this airplane. They're OK as long as you keep it "on step", but something smaller should work better. I think my timer is set for 8 minutes with that battery and uses right at 80% of capacity.
You're going to love flying it. . . I am using FMA 4S-3300Mah batteries, and I would say that those are just a little too heavy for this airplane. They're OK as long as you keep it "on step", but something smaller should work better. I think my timer is set for 8 minutes with that battery and uses right at 80% of capacity.
07-07-2010 | 08:41 PM
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Matt,
You're going to love flying it. . . I am using FMA 4S-3300Mah batteries, and I would say that those are just a little too heavy for this airplane. They're OK as long as you keep it ''on step'', but something smaller should work better. I think my timer is set for 8 minutes with that battery and uses right at 80% of capacity.
Matt,
You're going to love flying it. . . I am using FMA 4S-3300Mah batteries, and I would say that those are just a little too heavy for this airplane. They're OK as long as you keep it ''on step'', but something smaller should work better. I think my timer is set for 8 minutes with that battery and uses right at 80% of capacity.
I bought adapters from Hobby King for the balancer of my small TP 4S charger . Just got an email telling me that the order was filled and shipped (good) but it could take up to 45 days for delivery (bad). So I have a RTF plane with half charged batteries which is no good at all to me.
If any one has a TP female to XH male adapter for the balancer that they can loan me until mine gets here, it would be greatly appreciated.
07-07-2010 | 09:24 PM
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Matt,
I'm in the same boat, 45 days . . . tracking my shipment from Hong Kong, it just left Switzerland. Wish I was joking. . .
You may be able to find a US distributor that can help you out. My chargers are FMA and use the CellPro adapters. . . :-(
Here are a couple Google hits. They may be able to get you one quicker. However, if you order from a US store, you know when your Hong Kong parts will arrive. . .
http://www.rcdude.com/servlet/the-12...-dsh-6S/Detail
http://www.v-eastonline.com/products...x2%252d3Z.html
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I'm in the same boat, 45 days . . . tracking my shipment from Hong Kong, it just left Switzerland. Wish I was joking. . .
You may be able to find a US distributor that can help you out. My chargers are FMA and use the CellPro adapters. . . :-(
Here are a couple Google hits. They may be able to get you one quicker. However, if you order from a US store, you know when your Hong Kong parts will arrive. . .
http://www.rcdude.com/servlet/the-12...-dsh-6S/Detail
http://www.v-eastonline.com/products...x2%252d3Z.html
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07-07-2010 | 09:45 PM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
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Matt,
I'm in the same boat, 45 days . . . tracking my shipment from Hong Kong, it just left Switzerland. Wish I was joking. . .
You may be able to find a US distributor that can help you out. My chargers are FMA and use the CellPro adapters. . . :-(
Here are a couple Google hits. They may be able to get you one quicker. However, if you order from a US store, you know when your Hong Kong parts will arrive. . .
http://www.rcdude.com/servlet/the-12...-dsh-6S/Detail
http://www.v-eastonline.com/products...x2%252d3Z.html
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Matt,
I'm in the same boat, 45 days . . . tracking my shipment from Hong Kong, it just left Switzerland. Wish I was joking. . .
You may be able to find a US distributor that can help you out. My chargers are FMA and use the CellPro adapters. . . :-(
Here are a couple Google hits. They may be able to get you one quicker. However, if you order from a US store, you know when your Hong Kong parts will arrive. . .
http://www.rcdude.com/servlet/the-12...-dsh-6S/Detail
http://www.v-eastonline.com/products...x2%252d3Z.html
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Shipping wasn't exactly cheap for what I got either. Shipping was about 1/3 the cost of the parts. US distributors have us spoiled I suppose. I guess I have to wait it out. Maybe Lochowski will come through with an adapter. He has all kinds of stuff around
07-07-2010 | 09:59 PM
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RE: Vanquish I vs. Vanquish II
Well, the problem arose when the Hong Kong shippers were shipping LiPo's by air and marking "Toy Batteries" on the lables to avoid the Customs fees. I'm all for avoiding Gummint fees, but shipping undeclared LiPo's by air is dangerous unless they are properly packaged and handled (more $$$'s).
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So, slow-boat it is. . .
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So, slow-boat it is. . .
07-08-2010 | 06:53 AM
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Matt,
I only have balance adapters for converting 6 pin TP connectors to whatever connectors the True RC batteries use. Got a pile of these that are useless to me. You can charge your lipos for a while without using the balancer. Just be careful.
I only have balance adapters for converting 6 pin TP connectors to whatever connectors the True RC batteries use. Got a pile of these that are useless to me. You can charge your lipos for a while without using the balancer. Just be careful.
07-15-2010 | 10:30 AM
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Swapped out the hs65's to metal gear in the tail and flew it last night. It flew great, only took 1 click of aileron trim. Lands like a dream.
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07-15-2010 | 01:17 PM
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Sorry to hear that Matt. I have a power 25 in mine and with a 4 cell 3000mah pack I'm not sure of the weight but it was plenty sporty. The only thing I had was sitting out in the hot afternoon sun I seen where I will have to get out the heat gun.
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07-15-2010 | 02:14 PM
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Matt, we'd appreciate it if you would contact us and let us help you solve your issues. We have had great success with both of the airframes you mention, not sure what is happening with yours but would like the opportunity to help you get them sorted. Shoot us an email at [email protected] or call us at 770-887-1794 and we'd be happy to help you out.
07-15-2010 | 02:23 PM
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Matt, guess I'm a little confused. I've been keeping up with your thread about the 78" Extra in this same forum and there you gave the Extra a glowing report. What has changed?
07-28-2010 | 07:38 PM
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Just had to tell you guys how happy I am with the MkII. I didn't use the servos nor the motor suggested, but found also through HobbyKing some parts that saved me over $100. You need to check out the servos that I'm using as they are just a little larger than the suggested ones but check out the specs3.0. I can't remember when I had a plane that set up for landings any better than my MkII. I just got another battery that is a 4s 3.0amp that has up to a 50C rating. The only problem that I have understanding electrics is the 40 amp ESC I'm using, is it able to allow me to use all of this power. I have a new 60amp ESC to replace the 40 one, but should I use a larger prop to get more pull? The Watt meter while using an APC 12x8 shows only 300 Watts at 28 amps. Here is the [link=http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2098]motor[/link] I'm using. Anyone know the answer please let me know.
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07-28-2010 | 10:11 PM
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That low of a kv motor you can go with a bigger prop to pull more amps or advance the timing up and see if it gives you the power you are looking for.
07-30-2010 | 01:32 AM
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What size of prop are you running on the engine setup you have on your Vanquish to get the numbers you posted on the forum. I have a very similar setup on my MKII but my 2.2 amp 4s pack might not run me up to at least 8 minuets that I need to go through the sequences. I'm using a 12x8E APC and getting on the Watt meter only 28-32 amps on a 40amp ESC. I have a new 3.0 Lipo that I've used but the extra weight and only same amount of thrust makes the plane a lot more sluggish. Any ideas or suggestions would be great.
