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Old 03-02-2008 | 09:18 AM
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hey guys,is there much of a diff.between a new cmpro cat arf and an old one,things like mods or updates.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 11:17 AM
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I like the above pics. Is it possible to do the work with out take off the covering? I’m not planning on glassing the wing. I was hoping to minimize the work. Is there any out there who has done it that way?
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Old 03-02-2008 | 11:21 AM
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I'm using Century retracts...Is there anyone who has done the cutouts for the retacts without removing all the covering?
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Old 03-02-2008 | 12:47 PM
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If you were carefull it can be done. I would use a thin diamond blade in my dremel and make the cuts down the side where the rails were to be glued in and then remove that balsa. Now make the mods needed to the bay as necc to install your gear and some good hardwood blocks. What I did on this one was remove the existing ribs on each side down to the ply floor but no lower leaving the ply floor which is actually not the floor since the wing is upside down at this point. Now make the hardwood blocks for the rails. Now that these are made make some new ply ribs but make sure that they fit good with good contact all around these will be glued in beside the rails. Now before I glued anything in I made sure of a good dry fit after that I glued in 3/8" and 1/2" triangle stock anywhere I could to beef up the area. Now I glue in the ply ribs making sure of plenty of 30 minute epoxy especially at the front and rear of the rib where it attaches to the spar. After that is setup I glue in the hardwood rails making sure that all areas that contact wood have 30 minute epoxy on it. Now if the blocks are very true then since the ply floor is still in you can use that to glue to and it should be square to the wing so that the gear should be sitting at the correct angle. If you do all this carefully all you should have exposed is a bit of ply on each side about 1/8" that you can take a brush and touch up. Just use your imagination and your preveous experiance it isn't that hard and it will be much stronger in the end. Oh and have paper towels ready already torn so that if you get glue on the wing you can get it wiped up right away. Hope this helps hard to explain perfectly.

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Old 03-05-2008 | 01:12 AM
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FRED I see your thread response on the gear--I have the sierra---any toe in toe out adjustment -or installation tips....ed sark [email protected]
Old 03-05-2008 | 01:14 AM
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anything on the gear installtion on the hellcat you can tip me [email protected]
Old 03-05-2008 | 05:19 PM
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Hi Sarks757, post #1968 shows a good pic of the blocks for the gear Im using a very hard wood dont know what kind but very hard just about reinforced the whole gear bays.My gear is on its way back to sierra I bent them bad in a crash and now making a new cat old one gone.As far as toe in or out none just install them and you should be alright.
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Old 03-05-2008 | 07:30 PM
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Fred----I remember your plane welll,..what happened??. Try to land in a "lUfthansa" x-wind?? I've been flying + 90 hr/ month (UAL)---time away =360 hours/month.. there's been no time to think or build., But, recently, have been bringing much RC info on-the-road with me.....ie: gear installation info from rcu from 1 1/2 years ago!! I will research thread site ## you recommended. How about a roast beef sandwich at The Crows Nest?? 201--401--6951. we'll talk.... You're with CAL, right??

I'm "on fire" to get going on the F6F--just spoke to 4 -5 "Air Group Five " pilots of The Yorktown (CV-10)from 1943---original Air Group on The Essex Class Carriers in the S Pacific. Spoke to my Dad about initial flight ops on the carrier, April, '43----GOTTA BUILD!!!! Ed Sarkisian THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP ON THE INFO!! God Bless....
Old 03-05-2008 | 08:16 PM
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attention----attention---I know the pilot of Hellcat in your thread photo --aircraft '5k". He's a good friend of
my Dad .
flew "5k". THAT IS AN "AIR GROUP ONE" MARKING, THE "TOP HATTERS" OFF THE USS YORKTOWN (CV-10) IN 1944.

"5k" flown by my Dad's friend ,CAPT. MICHAEL ALEXATOS---AN AWESOME INDIVIDUAL. HE HAS MACULAR DEGENRATION, AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REACH HIM BY PHONE FOR WEEKS+. HE LIVES IN SANFORD , FLORIDA. HE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU--I HOPE AND PRAY HE'S OK. HE LANDED ON THE YORKTOWN...AWES,...YA GOOTA HEAR THE STORIES. THESE GUYS ARE THE GREATEST GENERATION. CAPT ALEXATOS "THE MAD GREEK" as HE TELLS MY DAD, WROTE SEVERAL BOOKS--HE SENT TWO TO ME. THE BOX COVER ON THE AIRFIX F6F 1/72 SCALE KIT IS HIS PLANE "5K"ON THE TAIL. THE DIAGONAL WHITE HASHMARK INDICATES USS YORKTOWN AIRGROUP. MY DAD IS ORIGINAL CREW--MARINE ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUNNER--1943-1945 ON THE YORKTOWN. HE'S IN HISTORY CHANNEL----LOVE 'EM....I'M BLESSED. EDWARD A. SARKISIAN [email protected]
Old 03-05-2008 | 08:31 PM
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fred---#1968--excellent pictorial of gear block buildup--THANK YOU-!!-ed sark
Old 03-11-2008 | 10:36 PM
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Luke--I don't know if, when you get this--but I was one who ordered some of your parts for the F6F Hellcat. I just want to say, I find the canopy, cockpit kit, etc great workmanship, and am very glad to be part of the "crowd" to get some of the goods, while they lasted. No---I haven't touched the Hellcat at all---MUST get going on it---tough to do from a hotel in Los Angeles,California,...so, I study on "how to's "....Hope you're doing well in this Hobby Business.....still making parts?? All Best-----Edward A. Sarkisian
Old 04-28-2008 | 12:47 PM
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Well, I acquired one of these in a trade last week, new in the box - as well as a YS 120F, Robart rotating retracts (probably some other goodies in the box - haven't had time to look) (went out at lunch - looks like I have a retractable tail wheel too)

Up to about page 15 reading this thread - I'm sure I'll gain a wealth of knowledge. First nitro plane since I got back into the hobby 4 yrs ago - been flying electric so far. My buddy has the CMP Zero, I should have some fun chasing it around.
Old 05-29-2008 | 05:56 PM
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Do you make drop tanks and bombs for the Corsair 60 size ? I'm reading the post and seen your remarks about the hellcats and i have a top flite Corsair with intiror kit and dumy engine i hope to build into a show plane and still fly it. I planning on building a hellcat to go with my P51 and Corsair. I hope to build and fly the full set of WWII fighters.
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Old 05-30-2008 | 10:21 AM
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Good to hear from someone on this thread. My Hellcat (from Nitro Planes) is still in the box but I'm collecting the components. I got a really good deal on it from a guy at the AMA show last Jan. He had bought it but had to many other projects. It came with Century retracts... $225 for the plane and retracts. Also I bought a hydraulic unit from a friend...$20 below cost. I plan on putting a 125 Saito in mine. It's a good engine with all the power this bird needs. I want to keep the weight down. The guy I bought it from an old time buider said it best not to add to much weight to war birds, they fly best without it. A lot of people on this are doing a lot different things to theirs but I plan on keeping it simple. I think it looks great the way she is but I might change some of the grafpics.
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Old 05-30-2008 | 10:47 AM
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Once you're done Shubova, we'll have to hit Whittier Narrows and fly. Worked on mine a bit last night, got the wing hold down bolts in, belly pan tacked on. Onboard glow driver showed up yesterday, will probably work on that tonight.
Old 05-30-2008 | 05:35 PM
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OldFart,
That would be great but it won't be happening soon. Got another project (GP Supper Stearman) to finsh. I haven't been to the Narrows in years. I had bad experience there...to mean crazy people. Maybe on a week day might be better.
Thanks for the offer.
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Old 05-30-2008 | 05:38 PM
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What onboard glow driver are you using? I have never used one...is it relieble?
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Old 05-30-2008 | 06:02 PM
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Shubova,


I had a cmp hellcat with sierra, retracts os 1.20 inverted with onboard glow painted in tri color flew great wieght was not a problem.I ,m making one now the same way.I stalled on landing and cart wheeled it and totaled it,man it was a good looker and flyer, it flew great.Loved it so much I had to make another.Also have and flying now the great planes super stearman with a g-26 also flys and looks great.So dont worry to much about the weight with a saito 125 you should be fine.
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Old 05-30-2008 | 06:02 PM
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RC McDaniel - my first time for one, so I'll have to let you know.
Old 06-03-2008 | 02:53 PM
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Opinions - I'm at the stage where I need to find a home for the 2000mah RX battery and the onboard glow driver (which also has a battery) - I'm considering locating them above the fuel tank, in the area "below" the servo tray (below with the fuselage inverted)

Were there any big CG issues with the Hellcat? I know my buddy's A6M Zero took a lot of nose weight.
Old 06-03-2008 | 04:33 PM
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Keep the weight as far forward as possible you will need it.
Old 06-03-2008 | 04:44 PM
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Thanks. I'd planned on locating the RX battery and glow driver module "under" the servo tray anyway (cleaner) - but this just reinforces my belief. YS 120 will help
Old 06-03-2008 | 05:40 PM
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HEY GUYS i PUT MY 6V 2200MAH BAT JUST AFT THE FIREWALL IN THAT DEAD SPACE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE FUSE.AND THE GLOW DRIVER BAT JUST AFT THE SERVO TRAY WITH A TIE WRAP HOLDING IT TO THE SERVO TRAY.
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Fred, what motor are you running, and did you have to add any weight to achieve CG?
Old 06-03-2008 | 05:52 PM
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Jeff, Im using and os 1.20 inverted and the c/g came out on the money


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