Im looking for some cheap 4s batterys aswell i think the best so far is max amps right?? have you ever ordered from them??

Alright thanks, would it be cheaper to just set it up with a larger brushed motor? I might get the boat for my birthday and then i have about $140.00 to mod it. would that be enough to get it to 25? and would it be stable at that speed?

no, i hevnt ordered from them, but i have heard that now maxamps lipos dont have the puffing problem and somthing else (i think now that they have copper tabs), they are pretty good, but i wouldnt want to waste that much cash on this hull....

jellybean, i would probably just use 12 nimh cells instead....you could use 12 cells with a 700SC and a jeti navy 600esc and still get around 25mph....maybe even faster....

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=ose-700sc

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=hl-je600n

you could also try united hobbies....but remember their shipping and customer sevice isnt the best, so i would be careful with them...you can find cheap feigao motors and esc's there....as well as lipo's....

https://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITED...idProduct=5225

https://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITED...idProduct=4316

https://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITED...idProduct=4691

basically all of their lipos have stock in the negatives right now, so i probably wouldnt buy any as they usually take a while to get back in stock....

if you used the 700sc and jeti navy esc i listed, you will be able to stay under the 140$ mark, but with the batts, you will probably be over that mark(also remember, if you do get the 700, make sure you get it w/ brush cooling)

Alright thanks i think i might get an hammer ep, that and this are what i am thinking about, and the supervee 27 but im not sure about that

ive driven both the hammer and the SW....the SW is better IMO. but the best is the SV27

ive driven both the hammer and the SW....the SW is better IMO. but the best is the SV27

Ok and they both do about the same speed? besides the sv 27?

Thanks

no the SW is faster. It has a sleeker hull and a surface drive. I have found that the hammer turns quicker but the SW is alot more fun

alright thanks well its my birthday so i think i gotta decide what i want as a present i think i wanna get the shockwave 26 but if i can get the sv 27 then thats what im gonna get.


thanks for the help

happy birthday.....(get the supervee)

dumb question, looking to buy a shockwave
are all the boats on same freq or is it like other r/c sports and they come on different ones? I have planes and cars but this will be the first boat. My friends and i are looking to get boats for pond racing. Couldn't find anything on pro boats website.
thanks
john

I want the supervee but i dont think thats gonna happen because its pretty expensive once you look at the cost of batterys and a new charger. Are there any other boats i should look at besides the shockwave 26, hammer, and villian? And is the villian any better than the shockwave 26?

Thanks for the help

Read my earlier post in this thread... I found the set screws to be both metric and standard...

Here... save you some digging through this thread...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5804415

The stock radio is a 27MHz AM radio, there are only six frequencies in that band. ProBoat will likely have several, if not all six frequencies for this boat. When you order/buy the boats, be sure to request different channels/frequencies for each boat so you can run them at the same time.

Here's link to all the RC frequency bands... 27MHz is about halfway down the list...

http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/frequencies.aspx

Jelly Bean the Villain EX is much much faster and with the simple addition of two 7 cell packs, you will gain anouther 3-5 mph. The Villain handles nicely too but there is just something I like about the SW26 too. It handles differently. The Villain is a torque monster and the two motors and drives make it somewhat unique. but tha's also twice as much stuff to break and or modify. By the way I do have both boats.

Has anyone figured out the best size prop for the stock electronics. I thought I saw somewhere that somebody suggested the miss bud prop and also a 40 or 45 mm prop so I am just wondering if any of those are good choices for this boat?

i think the miss bud prop is the same size as this one (only difference is the color)

ive used what looked like a 40mm prop and the motor got really hot....

I finally made my way to the end of this thread. I bought a Shockwave on ebay from a hobby shop that listed it for "parts" because the shaft was locked up and they didn't know if it was the motor or shaft. I wanted something to get used to racing boats, as all my previous efforts have been scale/semi-scale, and the boat seemed to have most of the equipment I would eventually need in a sport scale hydro. (That's what I thought at the time; now I have a completely different hardware package for the sport hydro.)

Turned out the motor was the culprit, but in trying to figure that out, the hobby shop had stripped out the lock screw on the shaft end of the connector (it is a 1/16" socket, not a 1.5 mm like the one on the universal). (This seems to be a common experience, based on this forum.) Once I got the connector removed, I took out the motor and there are loose parts inside and it locks up -- probably a broken brush. The motor does not come apart easily, like the "rebuildable" car motors, so I decided to replace it.

I had bought a 13 turn Venom Fireball modified motor on ebay, so I installed that with the stock water cooling and a 3000 mah NIMH 6 cell battery. First time I ran it, it went into thermal cut-off after a short time. I messed with motor alignment and it ran a little better but the esc was still very hot, the motor not so bad. I figured perhaps the stock prop is too big for the higher rpm motor and it is drawing too much current instead of operating at top efficiency.

Then I was reading up on the Venom on the car threads, and the comments were "not so nice," and I found a Trinity Chameleon 2 19 turn Pro with a sticker on it that shows a top speed of 31,086 rpm for a good price. THe comments on the Chameleon were all very good and the rpm rating of the Chameleon is only slightly below that of the Venom, even thopugh it is a 19 turn versus 13 turn motor. I was also told the higher turn motor would have more torque than the 13 turn, so I figured maybe it could handle the stock prop. I had also bought a 50 amp esc which looks nearly identical to the stock Pro Boat ESC, which I figured I could use for scale.

The Chameleon did seem to run the boat faster, but I never got top speed because the esc would cut out momentarily at full throttle -- not to a complete stop, but like a car motor "missing." As it turns out, the Chameleon didn't have suppression capacitors installed, so that explains the "glitching." And the ESC, though never thermaling, was too hot for the finger test, but not hot enough to cause a drop of water to "sizzle." The motor body was good but brush tabs hot.

So here comes my question. It is my understanding that the stock prop is probably still too large, but I read on this forum it is only 35mm, which seems pretty small, and on here everyone is talking about using a LARGER prop to increase performance. Adding cells would only increase the current flow and the heating, wouldn't it?

I do plan to add cooling tubes to the brush tabs to hook into the water cooling loop, and perhaps even some tubing on the esc heat sink. But it still seems to me if the motor is "over propped" just like in R/C planes, it will decrease run time and not get the best performance from the motor/prop combination.

So what IS the best size prop for this boat?

My other alternative is to put in the sport hydro set up -- a MambaMax 5700 brushless with a Castle Creations Barracuda 80 esc.

PeeJay

Well PeeJay we seem to be on the same wave length. I had to exchange my first SW26 I bought because it only lasted about 3 min before it stopped working. I think I got anxious and threw it in the water and both the shafts probably had zero lube on it from factory. Plus there was evidence that the boat had been used anyway. So I got a new one and I immediately bought a Chameleon 19t motor using the stock cooling coil. It runs great and is much faster than stock but I got thermal shutdown after about 5-6 mins. I am running a 7 cell IB3600 and stock prop. I greased the props beforehand so it wasn't that. I am going to flirt with a smaller prop size now.

I just installed a plastic Octura X431 prop today. It slid right on and was the right size and fitment for the SW26. It's a little smaller than stock so I am anxious too see what kind of heat and speed I have now. I will head to the lake later and report.

OK ran the SW. I was very careful not to let it overheat on me or go into thermal overload because I ran it in my pond behind the house which is nasty and I did not want to swim or fetch.

Well it seemed maybe just as fast or if anything a little bit slower than the stock prop. Didn't run it too hard. Took it easy. Only WOT for 20 secs at a time and took short cool down breaks. Brought it in a couple times to monitor temps. Could not use the 5 second rule at the end of the motor (opposite side of the shaft) It and the wires running into it were pretty hot. ESC was hot but cooler than the Brushes area of the motor. It sucks I can't run this boat like I do my Villain EX on two 7 cells (16.8 volts). I run that thing WOT 90% of the time until batts are empty 12 mins later. There has to be a way to get this thing to run cooler. I am thinking a more Efficient and water cooled ESC along with a water jacket and brush tubes will solve the HEAT WAVE.

I am running a plane motor and a 45mm prop, but mine has been converted to a straight shaft. It is a [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJ765&P=K]Great Planes 600 22 turn[/link]. I think it would be ok with the [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJ766&P=K]Great Planes 600 19 turn[/link] though as it only gets mildly warm the way it is.

I'm gonna put my shockwave up for sale . Its been used maybe 4 times . If anyone is interested Just email me . 125.00 plus shipping .

Im starting a new project build with a shockwave 26 and need some pic and measerments of the transom and a bottom shot with of the weith and a side shot please im going to try i twin jet drive or one large one thats my i need pics thanks every one for your help

is there a way i can adjust the trim better this boat has room for only a tiny adjustment/

No it is what it is .. I have the same problem, not much movement . I think I would try running a lipo battery in it to get the weight off the bow .