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Old 05-22-2008 | 06:37 PM
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Does anybody know about this boat? Any feed back..Pros/Cons..I think it might be a better villain ex..I havent been able to find about reviews or info about it online. I guess its too new, im wondering if anybody has one, they can maybe pass on some advice.
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i wouldn't buy it . i think if you got it you would be dazed and confused.... its pro boat, there is more things to go wrong then there is to go right.
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There is some info about it in the latest RCBM - says it uses the same power system as the Blackjack 26 Cat and is capable of speeds 30+ mph. Also, from the pictures, it has great scale looks if that means anything to you.
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Cadillac honestly from what i see the electronics arent too great. But i was planning on changing the radio gear out bc i have some nice JR equipment that i use to have in a old car. Look my situation is i wanted to get the Villain ex but wanted something faster and brushless..supervee seems too fast and high maintence for me..flipping over is just something i wanna avoid..and i read that the deep vee hull design can be stable in all conditions..and the blackjack looks crappy to me..any ideas guys? i just want something i can play around with in a pond that is quick as hell..but fun..i dont really plan on racing anytime soon or at all..im more of a offroad buggy guy..
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Gregs i looked online..i was thinking of picking up the magazine but are you sure they werent talking about the "Pro Boat 1â„12 Formula RTR Hydro"?????
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Cadillac honestly from what i see the electronics arent too great. But i was planning on changing the radio gear out bc i have some nice JR equipment that i use to have in a old car. Look my situation is i wanted to get the Villain ex but wanted something faster and brushless..supervee seems too fast and high maintence for me..flipping over is just something i wanna avoid..and i read that the deep vee hull design can be stable in all conditions..and the blackjack looks crappy to me..any ideas guys? i just want something i can play around with in a pond that is quick as hell..but fun..i dont really plan on racing anytime soon or at all..im more of a offroad buggy guy..
that is just it. this boat is not a "V" hull. it has a VERY large flat ride pad... might as well call it a flat bottom boat.

the pro boat hydro looks different. same crappy electronics but the hull has been changed.
i would buy a SV27 if i were you.
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So why the hell do they call it a Deep vee hull? lol..
ok well how does the VERY large flat ride pad handle in the water? can it handle chop and speed? ok i understand the electronics are crap..but how is the brushless system..i mean im only familiar with car brushless system. but how does this one included with the boat compare?
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Gregs i looked online..i was thinking of picking up the magazine but are you sure they werent talking about the "Pro Boat 1â„12 Formula RTR Hydro"?????
It's the Formula Fastech Brushless they're talking about. There isn't much information in the magazine on it other than what I told you. If it's designed to run on 12 cells or 4S lipo and has the Blackjack brushless motor 30+ mph sounds about right.

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Personally, electronics wise, I didn't have any problems with the blackjack. I got rid of it because it was kind of boring though, and just wasn't a good boat (not because of electronics though). However, what is suspect about ProBoat is their hardware. I've never seen any proboat hardware that doesn't suck. The steerable outdrive they use on some of their boats is AWFUL, and, while I haven't seen it in person, or had any experience with it, the hardware on the Formula Fastec just looks CHEAP.

My vote is with Cadillac. Buy a supervee. You may flip, but its part of the hobby. Fast boats just flip sometimes. Down at the Texas Super Race (my first big race) earlier this year, I couldn't believe how many boats would flip or suck water and stall, or crash! It really is just part of the hobby. But, you can learn how to avoid it too.

A buddy of mine and I race our 27's pretty regularly, and have gotten pretty good about avoiding flips. On the 27, it is all about the nose - as soon as it starts pitching up and down in an abnormal manner (i.e. not just your regular wave-to-wave bouncing) let off the throttle. 8 times out of 10, that will save us from an annoying flip. In my semi-limited experience, the supervee really is the best bang for your buck, and an overall great boat. Give it a shot.
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Do you mean all the electronics? or like the radio gear? how does the brushless system compare to other boats? and the supervee? bc what i was planning on doing was just tearing all the electronics out and replacing with what i have now..and leaving the brushless system..sorry i know these questions are annoying, but my local hobby shop doesnt really know too much about boats..
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So my stepdad just got his boat today and we went to run our boats together. Well my boat ran, his boat right out of the box, the flex shaft was broke and the collet nut didn't look like it was super heated. Also the plastic tupperware looking radio box had pulled away from the wood stringers inside the hull. All I did to fix this for him was put some shoe goo and let it hardened and it held pretty good. I like my proboat shockwave 26 but, I'm not impressed by this new Formula Fastech. If you buy one, make sure you go over it and look close and check every screw.
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So my stepdad just got his boat today and we went to run our boats together. Well my boat ran, his boat right out of the box, the flex shaft was broke and the collet nut didn't look like it was super heated. Also the plastic tupperware looking radio box had pulled away from the wood stringers inside the hull. All I did to fix this for him was put some shoe goo and let it hardened and it held pretty good. I like my proboat shockwave 26 but, I'm not impressed by this new Formula Fastech. If you buy one, make sure you go over it and look close and check every screw.
can you upload some pics of her? This is the first I've heard of someone actually having this boat. Sux about the quality, but then I guess it is to be expected. oh and did it get to run at all? or does it need repair, personally I would bring it back if it required any money to fix.
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Hey.. i hear about the quality being bad..but how did it handle in the water? did you see anything positive about it? just like quicksilver this the first i heard anyone having one..
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It never even ran in the water. It was broke coming right out of the box. Proboat is sending basically the whole assembly from the collet nut until the stabilizer on the flex shaft for nothing seeing as how the boat never seen water. I don't think the quality is bad, just as with anything new there are little bugs to work out. Obviously my stepdad has one of the first ones sent out. The hobby shop had to special order it and they didn't get any extras. I think Proboat is just trying to get as many of these out as quick as possible, so the quality of the assembly job is most likely going to be sub-par. As for the pictures it's a great looking boat, I don't think the hardware looks cheap, it's all metal. The boat looks exactly like it does on proboats website. I was kinda upset the boat didn't run because we (myself and stepdad) have a little wager going on who has a faster boat. I bought a kyosho wave chopper on rcu and put all of my own electronics in it and it flies! If you guys still want pictures of the fastech I can get some and put them on here but there definatly will be pictures and maybe a video once it runs [:@]
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i wouldn't buy it . i think if you got it you would be dazed and confused..
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Hey man yea i would love to see what broke? and when you do get it running i would love to see some videos as well..thanks
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Alright, I'll get some pictures and then when it runs I'll get a video up for you guys!
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buy the super vee and run it you will not think about this boat again
My buddy and I are into gas boats at the moment but his super vee and my villian are still a ton of fun.
I am planning on getting the super vee when the time is right plus Tower has them on easy payment which is nice.
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I know the SuperVee is a good boat but just out of curiosity has anyone else have one of these boats? I was brought up to not judge a book by it's cover. I know that Proboat has had some problems but this boat looks great and the hardware looks pretty beefy. I really want to see this boat run before I make a judgement on it. Who knows maybe Proboat gets their crap together and built this boat a good boat, keep in mind this when bad mouthing this boat, when you buy a new car or a new house there is going to be problems with it, well this boat has been out in hobby shops for about a week. There is going to be some problems with it. I let everybody know in a couple days how it runs. It should be ready by Sunday or Monday.
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Well the boat made it in the water today. It's definatly over 30+ right out of the box with 4200 maH batteries. The handling leaves something to be desired though. It takes wide loops and at speed the boat tends to hop until a chine rail catches. Any questions just ask.
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I agree- just purchased mine a week ago- and checks in at 31 mph by GPS with 3000 MAh cheap Venom NiMh batteries. On our pond, which is a little choppy, it has no trouble turning even at WOT, but does occasionally get a little squirrely on power during a hard turn. Runtime stinks, at 7 minutes, but that will get better when I get Lipos.

I had been taking on a little water after runs- wasn't sure where it was coming from. I took the radio box out, and did a leak check on the hull in the bathtub, using the batteries as ballast. The hull was leak free, so the water has to be coming from the large hole in the hatch, where the antenna exits. I'm thinking of putting a rubber boot on this hole.

Another note: I too discovered that the radio box was not secured in the back- the wood crossbeam was broken. The boat woudn't turn well to the left- basically, the servo was just moving the box, instead of the control arm. I simply cut a piece of pine, polyurethaned it, and epoxied it in the slots, and screwed the box down tight. No more issues.

Overall, I'm very pleased with the boat- my 10 year old son loves driving it too. Yes, there are some issues with build quality, but I just fixed them myself rather than stewing about it. To me, little challenges like this teach me, and my son, something about the construction of these boats.

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well my buddie has run his fasttec 3 times now, and as his mechanic i am ready to make some input. the driveshaft is a pain in the a@#. i have a hughly .150 shaft comming that will eliminate the stub-shaft set up (make it simple like the super-vee). the hull is flimisy, his came chipped at the nose, and there is no way the windshield, steering wheel and swim step would hold up to my abuse (fliping at speed) for more that a week. another issue is the steering, it didn't turn out of the box, moving the linkage at both the servo and rudder helped, but it still wallows like a mini-rio. i am going to try to bend the turn fins about 15 degrees outward. at the pond i didnt have a vise but the 2-3 degrees i could bend them helped. the only thing i like about this boat is the motor and esc. my money would go to a super-vee. the funniest thing about this boat is that I OUT-RAN THE FORMULA WITH MY BRUSHLESS MINI RIO! my mini is fast, but that would never happen to our super-vee's....
any tips on handling are apreaciated....
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Thanks. I don't plan on abusing mine, so that my kids can have something to drive for more than a week. I agree about the ESC and motor- very nice, and the cooling water flow is excellent. I personally have had no issues with removing the prop shaft, greasing it up, and replacing it. Takes 45 seconds, tops.

I didn't pick this boat after a ton of research- in fact, I just happened to be in my hobby shop looking for car parts and saw the thing sitting on a shelf, right next to the BlackJack. Anyway, knowing me, I'll end up having six boats sitting on my workbench before long- my car collection is sickening!

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I've been trying to decide on the supervee27 or the fastech and just about decided on the supervee. I'm returning to boating after about a 20 year hiatus. My last boat I still have is an old Sea Master II. I've been into crawlers for a number of years now but my son now 10, wants to get into the rc boats.
I picked up the Proboat esc for my SM and am totally disappointed with it - we got 2 runs, 2 batteries and the esc took a crap.
I called Proboat and they told me it's not a problem, send it back and they'll just replace it. This is enough to send me to the supervee. I dont want to buy a boat that has elecs in it that I already dont like. I dont care for the radio on either of them, and that will get swapped out for an RS310XS3 Pro combo which is just sitting on the bench waiting for the boat.
But I posted this because when I called Proboat today I asked one of the reps what he knows about the fastech.....not in so many words he suggested waiting on this boat or looking at something else. He didn't come right out and say that - he agreed with me when I suggested waiting, and also agreed with me when I mentioned the supervee seems to be pretty dependable.... I guess I can translate whatever I want outa that, but to me it's a big NO on the fastech.
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As the owner of 2 SuperVee 27s, I just received the Fastek, and although I like it, I must honestly recommend that you go with the Supervee.


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