Did this thread die? I liked the Central Mississippi invitation............

I think this thread is dying because P-38 owners don't have a lot of faith in the future.

It's like dating Julia Roberts: you don't know if you're gonna have anything in 6 months!

mt

Mark:

But for that period of time, the plane and Julia are both very enjoyable. And after the crash you will have nice memories of the plane and the woman.

Bill.

[sm=punching.gif] Oooooh, right to the heart!!. But I think you are dead-on with that comment. Now my P-38 is over 6 months old, but it has not been flown yet.[sm=punching.gif]

Or, if you're like Lyle Lovett, you could make your best music and $millions$ with the break-up album.

Seriously, though, I've noted that most of the posters to this thread pushed for having it in their own backyard (home state, anyway).

That's not what I wanted or envisioned, but you have to figure that's the reality of majority opinion and go with it. I did make contact with a few people from our area (state), so it's been a productive thread. Setting something up with a more local flavor would still be a lot of fun, and is probably the angle we'll pursue for now.

mt

Our club is planning to hold some kind of warbird meet this summer, but the details have not been completely worked out. The prospective cd/chairman/organizer is leaning to all warbirds, I will post with details as they become available, but will extend the invatiation to all of you. Our field is in the country but close to a large metro area, one of our members works for a large hotel chain and may even be able to arrange some discounts. Will let everyone know as it developes.

Give us as much advance notice as possible. RV Man and I will each bring a trailer-full of warbirds to crash.

mt

Oh, yeah, and the Modellaires down in DesMoines have a lot of really good flyers, too.

mt

NO NO crashing is not allowed, we have a rule laying around somewhere that prohibits crashing, penalties range from a light heckling from the peanut gallery for a minor crash to not being allowed to fly the crashed plane for the rest of the day for a major crash.

all with qualifing aircraft will be welcomed

Great Idea!! I've got an 94" Art Johnson ready to go and a ZiroliP-38 with 2 3.6 Moki twins on gas and a Robart for a spare, just in case! Consider Buds Feild in Council Bluffs Iowa!! Its a grass feild 100' by 700' north to south direction, and its 1 blk south of Ameristar Casino right off I-29 and I-80!!!! Consider having any multi eng warbird with a wingspan minumum as yet to be decided. I think its a great idea but catered towards the larger aircraft might be wise. Maybe 80" minumum?????? Just a thought.




2engsout

I'm sorry if this is not the best forum to place my request, but with all the P-38 fans I hope someone can help me. I have an older P-38 that I bought without the center pod. I need the former section templates to build the pod from scratch. I have no idea who's kit it is, but it is about an 80 inch span, with foam core sheeted plug-in wings and fiberglass booms. I would guess the vintage is at least 10 years old and perhaps 15 +. If I can get this bird finished I'll make the meet too!

Is there anyone out there who has a drawing of the center pod former sections they could email me?

Please email [email protected].

Thanks and thanks to RCuniverse for the forum!
Eric

I think the final particulars would be up to the hosting club, I have been trying to push the idea at our club but I think the CD is leaning towards an any warbird event versus a twin/multi format although as I stated earlier you all are invited to bring your twins/multis, will announce our date as soon as it is set.

I'd like some feedback on my thoughts guys. First of all, anybody that flys a twin is ok with me, but in the interest of safty and group morale, we should discuss what we want and don't want from an event like this. Nomatter where the event is to be held, the other 98% of the participants are going to be traveling (at no small expense) and flying some exstremly expensive aircraft that probably took the better part of a year to build! Those people deserve to know what to expect as far as flight rules and regulations. I have many large warbirds that I admire deeply, and I am really fussy when it comes to flying my large twins in the same airspace as everyone else. How about this for starters, No more than 4 aircraft in the air at the same time, 80" minumum wingspan, any multieng warbird, a venue that puts the sun to our backs for the better part of the day, where noise won't be an issue, where we have a decent chance to save the bird with an eng out on takeoff. I think someplace in Iowa would be good, (I don't live in Iowa). Chime in guys and tell me if I'm just being too fussy. If it looks safe, I'll be bringing a Ziroli P-38 with 3.6 inline Mokis on gas.



2engsout

Is the club at Buds Field willing to host the event? Four twins in the air at once is a lot of noise to consider. May be some kind of formation flight such as they do with the B17's at bomber field, put as many in the air as possible (strictly volunteer of course) for an 8 or 10 min display of air superiority, for a noon time show. Race track rules for open flying. Something our club has adopted for 2 day events is to leave the field open on Sat until noon, then close the field except to event participants until 2:30 pm on Sun, that way the members of the club not participating in the event do not lose use of the field for a whole weekend. Depending on the level of participation in the event, we can option to open the field to general flying on Sat evening. Safety rules will have to be established such as where to start engines, at our field starting is done inside the 10' wide pilots box. A spotter/crewchief/helper/holder (one person can do this) should be required. Any one preforming twinman's vertical hold test should have two people holding the aircraft. OF course at any AMA field, AMA rules will have to apply. Anyone bringing an aircraft over 55lbs will have to have the appropriate waviers.

What about a date for the event? Early to mid Aug. the weather has usually settled down by then. Is anybody else working on thier clubs management to host this?

With regards to 2engsout and flying2bill:

I don't think there are a lot of us who are comfortable with several multi-engine planes in the air at the same time. Most of us get solitary time on our home fields, and acoustic cues for engine problems are sooooo critical.

So, I think most of the demo's should be set up as solo flying, but it would be really killer if we could set aside some time so those pilots really comfortable with their equipment and skills would do some group flying. The thrill value to that is many times higher than solo flights.

My club in Ames, Iowa is small, so interfering with club activity wouldn't be a problem, and I feel sure most of the members would really relish just watching such a high-octane event. We have a large grass field (400' X 500') and very wide open surrounding flood plain where noise and approach angle are not a problem, and the surrounding fields should all be in beans this year so tall corn won't bother us. The only problem is that the field has a tendency to be rough that time of year and I can't guarantee all the guys with big birds and retracts will like it.

August in Iowa can be very hot, but usually 80's and low 90's and pleasant.

How does the Omaha site compare to this?

As I said before, I'd just as soon have it somewhere else so I don't have to do all the work.

I forgot some people don't like it warm. It is the cold that I don't like. was thinking that the winds in Apr-Jun may put people off and there is usually so much going on in July. Who is the Council Bluffs/Omaha contact? Are the interested, How can I help?

Hi Guys I will talk to the event director and see what they think about hosting this multi eng gig. I'll let you know how it goes. Buds feild is about 100' x 700' north to south, grass, fairly smooth, surrounded by 50 acres of beans or corn? Noise has never been a concern. The closest house is about 3/4 mile away, and many run without mufflers on the big gassers I agree with KRAM when it comes to haveing the sky to myself when flying my twins. Its good for me and everybody else at the feild knows that bad things happen to twins!! They don"t want to see me crash, but if I crash, they want to see me crash!! Well, you know what I mean. I personally won't fly if theres more than 4 already in the air. With a max of 4 in the air at any one time, you can choose your own air seperation comfort level. I'll let you know what the other guys in the club think, but I don"t know when. Besides, whose says there can"tbe several of these events around the midwest. Us Lightning drivers could go on tour!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!



2engsout

Ahh, a you come to mine I'll come to yours kinda thing. Hopefully we will have a date for our Warbird event at our regular club meeting this Sunday. Think our event will be open to all Warbirds but if'n enough of you multi guys show up the wow factor might keep the singles on the ground (wishful thinker). Our CD for our warbird fly-in is a multi guy himself (Westcraft B17) but is afraid to limit participation to multies only, in fear of having a lack of participation (did I say that right). We have a north/south runway, fly from the west side so sun to the back all afternoon and evening, smooth surface runway (geotex) should be beans to the right and maybe corn to the left. Won't have my Ziroli done but this Wannabe should be going although some scale people may not let me flyit

I spread the word in our club about hosting the event, but, unfortunately there are only 4 aircraft that I know of ,in our club, that would make it for sure. Possibly two more from the Lincoln area. If you would be willing to drive to Council Bluffs IA. let me know. Its at the far western edge of the state on I-80. I would like to know witch club in the midwest has the highest number of multi eng warbirds. Chime in guys. Maybe in the Des Moine area??? I'd like to see this happen, but your feedback will be the only indicator as to making it happen anywhere!!


2engsout

We have a B17 (10') our 13' B17 hsa been put in mothballs, Wendell has a couple of buddies with B17's and a B29 and a B25. Then there is my P38 wannabethat I hope to have finished soon and there is an electric B17 on the boards in our club

IA/NE border area is good for me.

Right now I have two P-38's and a bunch of single engine warbirds (if that becomes an option).

mt

Some details have emerged about our (Skyhawks) warbird event. It will be held July 18, 2004 which is a Sunday, and is open to all Warbirds .60 size and larger. Everyone reading this thread is coordially invited. Pose a question here, is there enough interest amungst you for me to persue a piggyback event and say have July 17 a twins only day?

On the twins thing is this only for war bird cause I also have a Hobbical Voyager bashed into a twinn OS 26 fourstrokers. Small but loads of fun to flly for me at least. I also have an A-26-B invader with TT40s on it or is that too small. Working on a Wing B-17. And an Apple with a set of Mag 40s on it[&:]