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I have a couple of quick questions for the 28% Edge:
1.) How many servo extentions should I buy? 6? or 8 because of the throttle and engine cut? I would figure I would mount the throttle and engine cut close to the reciever anyways, am I right?
2.) Is there an easy way to mount the choke servo installation on the Zenoah G62 without buying extra parts such as a throttle arm extention? I ask this because the manual is a bit sketchy there and I would like to keep everything easy without having to go out and get extra parts.
3.) Should I buy two 6.0v 1000mah batteries or one 6.0v 2100mah? or does it not matter? How am I going to make the two reciever thing work out? because by buying two RX's, doesn't that mean they both have to split the signals that are coming from my TX and that would give me half the range, or does it not matter?
4.) Last but most certainly not least, what kinds of glues should I get... CA glue of course, but should I get thin, medium, and thick (gap filling formula), or can I just be conservative and get thin and thick and live a jolly ol' life? and I need epoxy I am sure but is there any suggestions to anything else I need or is that it?
1.) How many servo extentions should I buy? 6? or 8 because of the throttle and engine cut? I would figure I would mount the throttle and engine cut close to the reciever anyways, am I right?
2.) Is there an easy way to mount the choke servo installation on the Zenoah G62 without buying extra parts such as a throttle arm extention? I ask this because the manual is a bit sketchy there and I would like to keep everything easy without having to go out and get extra parts.
3.) Should I buy two 6.0v 1000mah batteries or one 6.0v 2100mah? or does it not matter? How am I going to make the two reciever thing work out? because by buying two RX's, doesn't that mean they both have to split the signals that are coming from my TX and that would give me half the range, or does it not matter?
4.) Last but most certainly not least, what kinds of glues should I get... CA glue of course, but should I get thin, medium, and thick (gap filling formula), or can I just be conservative and get thin and thick and live a jolly ol' life? and I need epoxy I am sure but is there any suggestions to anything else I need or is that it?
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Two recevers are not nessacary on a 28%. as for extentions 2-24" 2-18" and what ever you need for the throttle and choke. Dont forget you need some for your batterys depending on where they end up for balance.
on you battery choice. two 1000 Mah packs in my opinion are not suficiant for this size bird. a single 2400 mah pack or two 1650 packs would be better.
as for glue. Thin and medium CA and some 30 minit epoxy. and gorrila glue for the hinges.
I wil let someone that has worked with the G62 comment on that part of the question.
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on you battery choice. two 1000 Mah packs in my opinion are not suficiant for this size bird. a single 2400 mah pack or two 1650 packs would be better.
as for glue. Thin and medium CA and some 30 minit epoxy. and gorrila glue for the hinges.
I wil let someone that has worked with the G62 comment on that part of the question.
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I have a couple of quick questions for the 28% Edge:
1.) How many servo extentions should I buy? 6? or 8 because of the throttle and engine cut? I would figure I would mount the throttle and engine cut close to the reciever anyways, am I right?
2.) Is there an easy way to mount the choke servo installation on the Zenoah G62 without buying extra parts such as a throttle arm extention? I ask this because the manual is a bit sketchy there and I would like to keep everything easy without having to go out and get extra parts.
3.) Should I buy two 6.0v 1000mah batteries or one 6.0v 2100mah? or does it not matter? How am I going to make the two reciever thing work out? because by buying two RX's, doesn't that mean they both have to split the signals that are coming from my TX and that would give me half the range, or does it not matter?
4.) Last but most certainly not least, what kinds of glues should I get... CA glue of course, but should I get thin, medium, and thick (gap filling formula), or can I just be conservative and get thin and thick and live a jolly ol' life? and I need epoxy I am sure but is there any suggestions to anything else I need or is that it?
I have a couple of quick questions for the 28% Edge:
1.) How many servo extentions should I buy? 6? or 8 because of the throttle and engine cut? I would figure I would mount the throttle and engine cut close to the reciever anyways, am I right?
2.) Is there an easy way to mount the choke servo installation on the Zenoah G62 without buying extra parts such as a throttle arm extention? I ask this because the manual is a bit sketchy there and I would like to keep everything easy without having to go out and get extra parts.
3.) Should I buy two 6.0v 1000mah batteries or one 6.0v 2100mah? or does it not matter? How am I going to make the two reciever thing work out? because by buying two RX's, doesn't that mean they both have to split the signals that are coming from my TX and that would give me half the range, or does it not matter?
4.) Last but most certainly not least, what kinds of glues should I get... CA glue of course, but should I get thin, medium, and thick (gap filling formula), or can I just be conservative and get thin and thick and live a jolly ol' life? and I need epoxy I am sure but is there any suggestions to anything else I need or is that it?
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if u want a light bird may i suggest, Fromeco 4800mah, with a Fromeco Regulator to 6v best product on the market, get some Carbon gear while ur at it, CF wing tube, cf tail gear, cf main gear if u think it will hold up.. hehe nah. im only kidding, but CF is good 

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Servo extensions used in my plane are as follows: 2 18" for Elevator, 2 12" for wings, 2 6" comming off reciever aileron to allow easy plugging into wings. I run a single 2000mah battery on the reciever and a 2000mah on the ingnition. Both batteries are Li Ion and have been regulated down to 6V. I used some sullivan gold rods to move my throttle and choke servos back into the plane near the CG. This kept the nose light, kept my radio gear away from the engine ignition and eliminated the need for more servo extentions. It's very easy to do and I recommend it.
Only one glue is needed for these planes, Gorilla Glue. You use it for installing the hinges. Once in a while a glue joint might loosen on a friends plane and having some medium CA in the field box is always a good idea.

FWIW, depending on your engine you can get away with a 4.8 V 1200mah Nicad and be just fine. Any good 6V 1800mah NiMh battery would work on your flight controls. These would give you an average of 4 flights on a single charge. Now that you are into the "big birds" I would buy better power though. But this will get you by in a pinch.
Dual recievers work when you split the flight surfaces. When a reciever goes bad the dead surfaces go to neutral while the other surface are still operational. You have to have radio gear that has fail safe capability. This way you can still land the plane. Running dual antenas out of this size plane is a little tougher. There just is not as much room for to antenas and keeping them from crossing. FWIW, I run a single reciever PCM reciever. I think dual recievers for a 33% and bigger is good. But these planes are just not required.
Sorry, I can't help on the Zenoha question.
Only one glue is needed for these planes, Gorilla Glue. You use it for installing the hinges. Once in a while a glue joint might loosen on a friends plane and having some medium CA in the field box is always a good idea.

FWIW, depending on your engine you can get away with a 4.8 V 1200mah Nicad and be just fine. Any good 6V 1800mah NiMh battery would work on your flight controls. These would give you an average of 4 flights on a single charge. Now that you are into the "big birds" I would buy better power though. But this will get you by in a pinch.
Dual recievers work when you split the flight surfaces. When a reciever goes bad the dead surfaces go to neutral while the other surface are still operational. You have to have radio gear that has fail safe capability. This way you can still land the plane. Running dual antenas out of this size plane is a little tougher. There just is not as much room for to antenas and keeping them from crossing. FWIW, I run a single reciever PCM reciever. I think dual recievers for a 33% and bigger is good. But these planes are just not required.
Sorry, I can't help on the Zenoha question.
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I think your 2 1000mah batteries into a single receiver through 2 switches will work fine, but you will only get a few flights before they need recharging. If possible increase the size of at least one of them.
Gorilla glue and some medium CA for repasirs should be all you need.
The choke on a G62 is hard to hook up. I usually just use a manual chock on the G62.
TF
Gorilla glue and some medium CA for repasirs should be all you need.
The choke on a G62 is hard to hook up. I usually just use a manual chock on the G62.
TF
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ok thanks for answers, but what concerns me now is...
I do have fail safe capabilities on my TX, sorry I forgot to mention, I am using a JR XP6102 (most advanced six channel) and as for my recievers, should I use Y harnesses for the servos (Ailerons, Elevator, and rudder) because I have 7 channel recievers, but my radio is only capable of 6, plus where would I plug two batteries in? Or does the ignition battery plug into a completely different electronic that isn't part of the radio, and is turned on just with the switch?
The battery thing was more of a guess, I will definitally get two...
and for the choke, you mean just use the throttle servo and throttle cut programming on my TX (It does have that, I was just wandering) or when I land it just kill it on the ground?
Sorry guys, I never really pay attention to the electronic setups on the bigger scale planes at my field, so I am an amature at this right now, and also this will be my first gas engine for a plane too...
I do have fail safe capabilities on my TX, sorry I forgot to mention, I am using a JR XP6102 (most advanced six channel) and as for my recievers, should I use Y harnesses for the servos (Ailerons, Elevator, and rudder) because I have 7 channel recievers, but my radio is only capable of 6, plus where would I plug two batteries in? Or does the ignition battery plug into a completely different electronic that isn't part of the radio, and is turned on just with the switch?
The battery thing was more of a guess, I will definitally get two...
and for the choke, you mean just use the throttle servo and throttle cut programming on my TX (It does have that, I was just wandering) or when I land it just kill it on the ground?
Sorry guys, I never really pay attention to the electronic setups on the bigger scale planes at my field, so I am an amature at this right now, and also this will be my first gas engine for a plane too...
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If your G62 is a converted one, I.E. it's been to to Ralph at RCIgnitions, I would get a Smart Fly Ignition cut. You might also look into what B&B specialties has for it if it is the magneto version. If you are going to be running two receiver packs, I would also get a Bat Share from Smart Fly.
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oh no, i figure if i only need one reciever, then that is what i want to use, but as for the ignition, i need more input about that too, i know of only one and that would be C&H Sachrospark but i really don't want to pay alot for an ignition, I think with the magneto, I will just let it be unless I really feel It impacts the performance alot.
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ok, i read a bit more and the zenoahs use magnetos (I already knew this) but then my brain turned on and I thought, doesn't that mean the magnets have to act with the coil, hence magnets produce there own charge for ignition, so there is no need for an electronic ignition, or am I wrong, and as for the choke, won't I need that,? So either way I have to try to come up with a way to mount the servo so it will work with the choke?
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If your using Hitec digital servos, Find someone in your club that has a servo programmer, and reverse one elivater and one aliron servo. That way you can use a non reversing Y harness. Your 6 channel radio realy limits the setup options on a bird with this many servos.
The choke is easy to rig up. with a pull rod from the bottom or front of the cowl.
On the Zenoah in stock form no battery is needed. If you have it converted to electonic ignition, the huge coil and flywheel is removed saving a bunch of weight on the nose, and a battery is used to power the ignition mounted in the rear case of the engine.
The choke is easy to rig up. with a pull rod from the bottom or front of the cowl.
On the Zenoah in stock form no battery is needed. If you have it converted to electonic ignition, the huge coil and flywheel is removed saving a bunch of weight on the nose, and a battery is used to power the ignition mounted in the rear case of the engine.
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that is why I asked my reciever questions, because I knew I would run into a problem there, but I am sure I can work it out ok, if not I will go with 2 receivers
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Another option is to use a matchbox, to plug the elivater servos into. it has adjustments for direction and endpoints. You plug it into one port on the recever.
JR Futaba and Smart fly all make versions of this device.
JR Futaba and Smart fly all make versions of this device.
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Even if you have 2 RX one of the elevator servos needs to be reversed Ive seen people put the linkages backwards on one servo but the acuracy of the surface will be very bad due to the geometry of the linkages. Im unsure why mstroh3961 said one aliron needed to be reversed a simple Y cable would work. As far as adding the 2nd battery I allways put a Y cable on the rudder servo And plug the switch into that then go to the 2nd battery from the switch You can plug a battery into any channel on a RX and the system will power up. I use the rudder due to the fact mt rudder is my biggest servo and I fly in a hover or a knife edge on all my down wind legs and do a touch and go on my return. They call me touch and go Dan at the field my wheels allways need lube. maybe this year Ill do that the squeeking is getting to some of them
. But the rudder usses a lot of juice however you will never get the batteries to drain even and the whole Idea is redundancy for safty and to protect your investment. Good luck
. But the rudder usses a lot of juice however you will never get the batteries to drain even and the whole Idea is redundancy for safty and to protect your investment. Good luck
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ok great answers, one more though, how do i set up the choke on the g62, what am i looking at here, is it very hard or manabable with a little modification, or what other alternatives are there to use for my radio, i don't really want to convert the magnito to an electronic ignition, because even though there will be weight loss, that little difference on the plane i am using for this is no concern to me, plus i want to do little as possible to the engine that i can
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If you're going to buy a G62, get the Bennett Built version. It comes with the right mount and a muffler. May also need a 1/4" piece of ply wood to get the proper cowl/spinner clearance. However, wait until you get it all to see if you need that.
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Well I would buy the bennet build but at www.chiefaircraft.com they sell the stock Zenoah G62 for about $120 cheaper than the bennet built ones, but it is very very tempting. they also sell 6v 2300mah Ni-MH batteries for $27.95 each!
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www.bbspecialties.com sells a choke and throttle set for $18.95 at, if I do have problems I wont think twice of getting this!
finally everything is coming together, thanks for everyone's help who contributed, and I am sure I will have problems in the near future but for now I think everything is solved...
finally everything is coming together, thanks for everyone's help who contributed, and I am sure I will have problems in the near future but for now I think everything is solved...
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Regarding the G-62. Just contact Ralph at RCIGN to get the best deal on the motor. Whilr you're at it, get his lightened version with the electronic ignition. Talk to him about mounts and mufflers. The stock 62 muffler is crap. Abell and JA engineering make some good ones for the engine.
The 62 choke can be difficult to work with until you add and additional bellcrank to the side of the motor. Then things start getting a lot easioer. Again, talk to Ralph. There is NO other better authority on that engine.
The 62 choke can be difficult to work with until you add and additional bellcrank to the side of the motor. Then things start getting a lot easioer. Again, talk to Ralph. There is NO other better authority on that engine.
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Here is my list:
Four Hitec 5945 Digitals (2 aileron, 2 elevator)
One JR DS8611 (Rudder)
Reciever is undecided but I do have a JR R770s PCM Reciever available (came with TX when I bought it and have yet to use it)
Two 6v 2300mah Ni-MH RX Battery Packs
Two Standard Servo for throttle and choke (if i can somehow get the choke to manage without any modifications of the engine)
Either a DA-50 or Zenoah G62 (Preference is Zenoah because I can get it for half the price of a DA after all of the required equipment for the engines and the simple fact that the plane was build around this engine)
And of course the hardware and essentials... If someone wants to add something or has some negligence on anything here, do not be afraid to tell me because I need all the feedback I can get!
Is there anything I have to buy for engine other than a prop, spinner, sparkplug, and 2-stroke oil plus the gas???
Four Hitec 5945 Digitals (2 aileron, 2 elevator)
One JR DS8611 (Rudder)
Reciever is undecided but I do have a JR R770s PCM Reciever available (came with TX when I bought it and have yet to use it)
Two 6v 2300mah Ni-MH RX Battery Packs
Two Standard Servo for throttle and choke (if i can somehow get the choke to manage without any modifications of the engine)
Either a DA-50 or Zenoah G62 (Preference is Zenoah because I can get it for half the price of a DA after all of the required equipment for the engines and the simple fact that the plane was build around this engine)
And of course the hardware and essentials... If someone wants to add something or has some negligence on anything here, do not be afraid to tell me because I need all the feedback I can get!
Is there anything I have to buy for engine other than a prop, spinner, sparkplug, and 2-stroke oil plus the gas???
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to anybody who has bought the zenoah g62, do i have to buy extra parts like an engine mount, muffler, and spark plug (although i would an am going to get extra of these anyways) etc... or does it come with everything ready to go except fuel of course?




