Radio Systems for 3D
12-13-2011 | 02:55 PM
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ORIGINAL: wyo69cowboy
I don't think Mr. ''R'' is getting the digi vs analog is JUST on the throttle trim; if you fly glow or gas, it's a very quick way to kill you engine. The rest of the trims are digital. I fly Futaba, so I don't have that option, but it sounds kinda nice to me.
Also, for a budget of $550 or less, I think the 8FG Futaba would be a great choice, as would a DX7 or 8. Depends on his future plans, but the 8 channel stuff gives you more options for the future, with mixing for multiple servos per surface, etc. I started back into the hobby 5 years ago with a Futaba 7C, but switched to a 10C in just a couple years to get more channel/mixing options.
ORIGINAL: DenverJayhawk
I think if you cared to read up or do any research on the cost of these radios before mindlessly posting your closed minded thoughts, you'll know that the 8FG is well within his posted budget of under $550.
Edit: and if he was considering a DX8, then he can certainly consider an 8FG for the same money. And how do you ''know'' that digital trims are better? Just because you think so makes someone else that likes analog trims wrong, i guess.
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
get tired of seeing your post Denver
i think if you read the OP he's got a budget..
get tired of seeing your post Denver
i think if you read the OP he's got a budget..
Edit: and if he was considering a DX8, then he can certainly consider an 8FG for the same money. And how do you ''know'' that digital trims are better? Just because you think so makes someone else that likes analog trims wrong, i guess.
Also, for a budget of $550 or less, I think the 8FG Futaba would be a great choice, as would a DX7 or 8. Depends on his future plans, but the 8 channel stuff gives you more options for the future, with mixing for multiple servos per surface, etc. I started back into the hobby 5 years ago with a Futaba 7C, but switched to a 10C in just a couple years to get more channel/mixing options.
flying large gas twin's one notch of ideal up or down is a huge factor i think we all know gas carb's the throttle arm is more sensitive all the power of the motor is in the first half maybe of the arm's travel the last 1/3 there is vary little change in power .. and this scale's to idel one notch can mean floating by or a fast taxi after landing and one notch can mean dead sticking in aerobatic move that load's the prop up .. ( granted if you don't use ideal up )
so I really don't have to argue . I know I'm not the only one who wants to re trim throttle sittings Evey time a change model's and also I'm not the only one who wants to manual set my ideal Evey single time by just eye balling it
clearly they made Digi trim's and clearly they are on the vast majority of radio's for a reason ?? show me another name brand radio that's high dollar with analog idle trim?????????
if it's so cool why isn't everyone doing it and for the love of god futaba and budget are oppset's forces in the universe . it's probably the single most expensive RX .. and debatably the most expensive TX they are good radio's i just don't think they belong in budget thread....
srsly /roll eyes
and sir i don't think you fly gas model's NO ONE i know i mean NO ONE fly's giant scale with out a kill switch normally they program it to a 2 way switch ( just like duel rates ) ( IE the switch is way easier to throw then it is to take your hand off the rudder and trim the ideal down... ) also i think few giant scale flying event's require kill switches hmmm i wonder why that's because it's ideal to not rely on the throttle servo to kill motor's most people use chock servos or optical kills or the smart fly inginit switch .. or myself i use IBEC
many time's throttle servo boxes break and servo arm become lose that's the whole idea of having a secondary kill ... i really don't see anyone manual trimming the motor down to kill it ....in regards to big gas stuff... your 40 nitro yes your 40 presenter no....
and I truely think "I don't think Mr. ''R'' is getting the digi vs analog is JUST on the throttle trim; if you fly glow or gas, it's a very quick way to kill you engine. " is a balently WRONG statement .. and i can prove this becouse most radios have pre programmed mixes they label them as thorttel cut or engine kill, and they they use a switch . ( most of the time you can select the swithc you want ) now i wonder why ??
12-14-2011 | 07:23 AM
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Zach - you just don't get it. The OP posted he considered a DX8 but didn't like the way it felt in the hands. This is a $400+ radio. If he's in the market for a DX8 class of radio, then he can certainly consider the suggestion of an 8FG. Do you even read the threads before posting?
PS....and the OP never stated he was looking for a "budget" radio. You just imagined that statement up. If he's thinking JR 95xx then he's not looking for a budget radio.
PS....and the OP never stated he was looking for a "budget" radio. You just imagined that statement up. If he's thinking JR 95xx then he's not looking for a budget radio.
12-14-2011 | 08:52 AM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
flying large gas twin's one notch of ideal up or down is a huge factor i think we all know gas carb's the throttle arm is more sensitive all the power of the motor is in the first half maybe of the arm's travel the last 1/3 there is vary little change in power .. and this scale's to idel one notch can mean floating by or a fast taxi after landing and one notch can mean dead sticking in aerobatic move that load's the prop up .. ( granted if you don't use ideal up )
so I really don't have to argue . I know I'm not the only one who wants to re trim throttle sittings Evey time a change model's and also I'm not the only one who wants to manual set my ideal Evey single time by just eye balling it
clearly they made Digi trim's and clearly they are on the vast majority of radio's for a reason ?? show me another name brand radio that's high dollar with analog idle trim?????????
if it's so cool why isn't everyone doing it and for the love of god futaba and budget are oppset's forces in the universe . it's probably the single most expensive RX .. and debatably the most expensive TX they are good radio's i just don't think they belong in budget thread....
srsly /roll eyes
and sir i don't think you fly gas model's NO ONE i know i mean NO ONE fly's giant scale with out a kill switch normally they program it to a 2 way switch ( just like duel rates ) ( IE the switch is way easier to throw then it is to take your hand off the rudder and trim the ideal down... ) also i think few giant scale flying event's require kill switches hmmm i wonder why that's because it's ideal to not rely on the throttle servo to kill motor's most people use chock servos or optical kills or the smart fly inginit switch .. or myself i use IBEC
many time's throttle servo boxes break and servo arm become lose that's the whole idea of having a secondary kill ... i really don't see anyone manual trimming the motor down to kill it ....in regards to big gas stuff... your 40 nitro yes your 40 presenter no....
and I truely think ''I don't think Mr. ''R'' is getting the digi vs analog is JUST on the throttle trim; if you fly glow or gas, it's a very quick way to kill you engine. '' is a balently WRONG statement .. and i can prove this becouse most radios have pre programmed mixes they label them as thorttel cut or engine kill, and they they use a switch . ( most of the time you can select the swithc you want ) now i wonder why ??
ORIGINAL: wyo69cowboy
I don't think Mr. ''R'' is getting the digi vs analog is JUST on the throttle trim; if you fly glow or gas, it's a very quick way to kill you engine. The rest of the trims are digital. I fly Futaba, so I don't have that option, but it sounds kinda nice to me.
Also, for a budget of $550 or less, I think the 8FG Futaba would be a great choice, as would a DX7 or 8. Depends on his future plans, but the 8 channel stuff gives you more options for the future, with mixing for multiple servos per surface, etc. I started back into the hobby 5 years ago with a Futaba 7C, but switched to a 10C in just a couple years to get more channel/mixing options.
ORIGINAL: DenverJayhawk
I think if you cared to read up or do any research on the cost of these radios before mindlessly posting your closed minded thoughts, you'll know that the 8FG is well within his posted budget of under $550.
Edit: and if he was considering a DX8, then he can certainly consider an 8FG for the same money. And how do you ''know'' that digital trims are better? Just because you think so makes someone else that likes analog trims wrong, i guess.
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
get tired of seeing your post Denver
i think if you read the OP he's got a budget..
get tired of seeing your post Denver
i think if you read the OP he's got a budget..
Edit: and if he was considering a DX8, then he can certainly consider an 8FG for the same money. And how do you ''know'' that digital trims are better? Just because you think so makes someone else that likes analog trims wrong, i guess.
Also, for a budget of $550 or less, I think the 8FG Futaba would be a great choice, as would a DX7 or 8. Depends on his future plans, but the 8 channel stuff gives you more options for the future, with mixing for multiple servos per surface, etc. I started back into the hobby 5 years ago with a Futaba 7C, but switched to a 10C in just a couple years to get more channel/mixing options.
flying large gas twin's one notch of ideal up or down is a huge factor i think we all know gas carb's the throttle arm is more sensitive all the power of the motor is in the first half maybe of the arm's travel the last 1/3 there is vary little change in power .. and this scale's to idel one notch can mean floating by or a fast taxi after landing and one notch can mean dead sticking in aerobatic move that load's the prop up .. ( granted if you don't use ideal up )
so I really don't have to argue . I know I'm not the only one who wants to re trim throttle sittings Evey time a change model's and also I'm not the only one who wants to manual set my ideal Evey single time by just eye balling it
clearly they made Digi trim's and clearly they are on the vast majority of radio's for a reason ?? show me another name brand radio that's high dollar with analog idle trim?????????
if it's so cool why isn't everyone doing it and for the love of god futaba and budget are oppset's forces in the universe . it's probably the single most expensive RX .. and debatably the most expensive TX they are good radio's i just don't think they belong in budget thread....
srsly /roll eyes
and sir i don't think you fly gas model's NO ONE i know i mean NO ONE fly's giant scale with out a kill switch normally they program it to a 2 way switch ( just like duel rates ) ( IE the switch is way easier to throw then it is to take your hand off the rudder and trim the ideal down... ) also i think few giant scale flying event's require kill switches hmmm i wonder why that's because it's ideal to not rely on the throttle servo to kill motor's most people use chock servos or optical kills or the smart fly inginit switch .. or myself i use IBEC
many time's throttle servo boxes break and servo arm become lose that's the whole idea of having a secondary kill ... i really don't see anyone manual trimming the motor down to kill it ....in regards to big gas stuff... your 40 nitro yes your 40 presenter no....
and I truely think ''I don't think Mr. ''R'' is getting the digi vs analog is JUST on the throttle trim; if you fly glow or gas, it's a very quick way to kill you engine. '' is a balently WRONG statement .. and i can prove this becouse most radios have pre programmed mixes they label them as thorttel cut or engine kill, and they they use a switch . ( most of the time you can select the swithc you want ) now i wonder why ??
12-14-2011 | 09:44 AM
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I was very lucky in that I was offered a "new" 8fg 2nd hand by a member of the club as he has so much cash to spend, he bought it, then the 14mz came into stock and he bought that straight away..
I'm flying helis, glow, scale and my 3d gasser. Love the 8fg.
For the price, I cant fault it. Its full of functions and looks "modern", cool and clean.
When I need to help members of the club program their 14mz's I even secretly think "my 8fg can do that quicker and with less faff!"
I can program anything I like, idle up for gasser planes, individual timers for plane flight time and for smoke, triple rates etc etc
What else do can I say.... was used in high end competition, very probably flown by a pilot with far higher skill level than "us" and its still relatively cheap..
In the end, I HONESTLY believe that there is no "right radio", get the one that fits your price, that you like the look of, even just get the one that the LHS stocks (for getting RX's etc!!), I WOULD like to say I am just missing out on some of the telemetry that other brands have and futaba doesnt.. but I think i'd still have gone for the 8fg, only because I already had my aircraft stocked with fasst.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5LKqHurmgo[/youtube]
To the OP:
Just remember, the world/Internet forums are exactly as cartman states at the end of this video...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brq2UGqL1oE[/youtube]
Good luck in the search for YOUR radio!
I'm flying helis, glow, scale and my 3d gasser. Love the 8fg.
For the price, I cant fault it. Its full of functions and looks "modern", cool and clean.
When I need to help members of the club program their 14mz's I even secretly think "my 8fg can do that quicker and with less faff!"
I can program anything I like, idle up for gasser planes, individual timers for plane flight time and for smoke, triple rates etc etc
What else do can I say.... was used in high end competition, very probably flown by a pilot with far higher skill level than "us" and its still relatively cheap..
In the end, I HONESTLY believe that there is no "right radio", get the one that fits your price, that you like the look of, even just get the one that the LHS stocks (for getting RX's etc!!), I WOULD like to say I am just missing out on some of the telemetry that other brands have and futaba doesnt.. but I think i'd still have gone for the 8fg, only because I already had my aircraft stocked with fasst.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5LKqHurmgo[/youtube]
To the OP:
Just remember, the world/Internet forums are exactly as cartman states at the end of this video...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brq2UGqL1oE[/youtube]
Good luck in the search for YOUR radio!
12-14-2011 | 09:49 AM
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ORIGINAL: lcgj
I ordered a X9503 to day.
I ordered a X9503 to day.
12-14-2011 | 09:51 AM
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ORIGINAL: ThumbSkull
The original poster has already made a decision. This has just turned into a pissing contest for no reason.
The original poster has already made a decision. This has just turned into a pissing contest for no reason.
Oh well... welcome to internet forum life.......
Congrats to the OP on getting his new toy!
12-14-2011 | 01:41 PM
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so you can clown me ... that's fine but i don't see anyone saying anything actually proving that a analog trim belongs on a modern high dollar radio ??
that's my point here there is a undeniable design flaw that a person should get a chance to know about .. but when i point out a flaw ... right away I get discredited... so where is the pros to useing Analog trim and why don't other high end radio's have it ?
only legitimate pro of a analog trim was Thumb-skull's personal perfance statement, and that's fine , it just really pisses me off when your recommending a product and you can't acknowledge the flaw in it . and most of you that are recommending the product i suspect that you don't even use the product your recommding .. and i highly suspect that your own personal radio's have digital trims and that you use Kill switches to ( quickly shut off your engine's ) and i highly suspect that you don't manual re trim your engine Idle after Evey time you change model's ... but it feels like there's a general refusal to accept this as fact and that it's seem's like if anyone goes aginst the main stream of the bandwagon .. then your discredited and that's truely wrong
that's my point here there is a undeniable design flaw that a person should get a chance to know about .. but when i point out a flaw ... right away I get discredited... so where is the pros to useing Analog trim and why don't other high end radio's have it ?
only legitimate pro of a analog trim was Thumb-skull's personal perfance statement, and that's fine , it just really pisses me off when your recommending a product and you can't acknowledge the flaw in it . and most of you that are recommending the product i suspect that you don't even use the product your recommding .. and i highly suspect that your own personal radio's have digital trims and that you use Kill switches to ( quickly shut off your engine's ) and i highly suspect that you don't manual re trim your engine Idle after Evey time you change model's ... but it feels like there's a general refusal to accept this as fact and that it's seem's like if anyone goes aginst the main stream of the bandwagon .. then your discredited and that's truely wrong
12-14-2011 | 01:49 PM
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"What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503. "
boy the part where he said I NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 550$ that sounds like a person talking about something ,, hmm what do you think he's refering to here ????? I don't know but surely it can't be his Budget right ?
"What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503. "
boy the part where he said I NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 550$ that sounds like a person talking about something ,, hmm what do you think he's refering to here ????? I don't know but surely it can't be his Budget right ?
12-14-2011 | 03:24 PM
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I agree. zacharyR is right in that I don't have analog trims; I already acknowledged that in an earlier post. I DO remember using them on older FM radios, and liked how easy and fast it was to adjust the throttle trim. I suspect there are many that like that, and that's why JR has included it on their radio. I'm too lazy to have set up a mix for a 3-position switch for different idles, but I do adjust my idle trim about 3-4 clicks up for flying, and back down for landing/taxiing around. Guess that's zacharyR's point, maybe, but there are just different ways to skin a cat: analog throttle trim, idle throttle switch, throttle kill, etc...
12-15-2011 | 11:38 AM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
in regard's to Jayhawk
''What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503. ''
boy the part where he said I NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 550$ that sounds like a person talking about something ,, hmm what do you think he's refering to here ????? I don't know but surely it can't be his Budget right ?
in regard's to Jayhawk
''What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503. ''
boy the part where he said I NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 550$ that sounds like a person talking about something ,, hmm what do you think he's refering to here ????? I don't know but surely it can't be his Budget right ?
12-15-2011 | 03:41 PM
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ORIGINAL: DenverJayhawk
I'm not sure what our disconnect here is. OP asked for a good radio for 3D under $550. The 8FG fits this requirement perfectly as it can be had for the the low $400s. Yes, the OP has a budget of $550 or less. But he never said he needs a cheap ''budget'' radio like a DX6i or something for less than $200. So why are you so upset with the suggestion of a mid 400 dollar radio when it fits the OP's requirements perfectly?
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
in regard's to Jayhawk
''What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503. ''
boy the part where he said I NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 550$ that sounds like a person talking about something ,, hmm what do you think he's refering to here ????? I don't know but surely it can't be his Budget right ?
in regard's to Jayhawk
''What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503. ''
boy the part where he said I NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 550$ that sounds like a person talking about something ,, hmm what do you think he's refering to here ????? I don't know but surely it can't be his Budget right ?
looks like tower has it at 479 guess that's low 400's huh ?? again Futaba is PRICEY the guy said he has a budget ... THAT'S MY POINT .. but you went out of your way to discredit it .. and again that's my issue here .. I feel your post are bull**** your giving false information just as you did in this post that radio isn't low 400's and regardless of whatever you say it's a FACT that Futaba is expensive in the grand scream of things and that conderdick's a person OP..
personally any one's radio's don't make a good 3d flyer( it's more a personal pref or Bling factor ) he should spend his money on airframes and if he has a decent computer radio hold off on upgrades .. after your though the crashing phase.. ( this would be my frist susjestioin in ne ver said anything about what he should buy denver .. i just said what you where saying was crap... becouse your a bandwagon internet surfer hip on the lastest trend's and in the so called " know " but really you offer littel to no legiment adivce ..
12-15-2011 | 04:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: zacharyR
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAVCN&P=0
looks like tower has it at 479 guess that's low 400's huh ?? again Futaba is PRICEY the guy said he has a budget ... THAT'S MY POINT .. but you went out of your way to discredit it .. and again that's my issue here .. I feel your post are bull**** your giving false information just as you did in this post that radio isn't low 400's and regardless of whatever you say it's a FACT that Futaba is expensive in the grand scream of things and that conderdick's a person OP..
personally any one's radio's don't make a good 3d flyer( it's more a personal pref or Bling factor ) he should spend his money on airframes and if he has a decent computer radio hold off on upgrades .. after your though the crashing phase.. ( this would be my frist susjestioin in ne ver said anything about what he should buy denver .. i just said what you where saying was crap... becouse your a bandwagon internet surfer hip on the lastest trend's and in the so called '' know '' but really you offer littel to no legiment adivce ..
ORIGINAL: DenverJayhawk
I'm not sure what our disconnect here is. OP asked for a good radio for 3D under $550. The 8FG fits this requirement perfectly as it can be had for the the low $400s. Yes, the OP has a budget of $550 or less. But he never said he needs a cheap ''budget'' radio like a DX6i or something for less than $200. So why are you so upset with the suggestion of a mid 400 dollar radio when it fits the OP's requirements perfectly?
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
in regard's to Jayhawk
''What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503. ''
boy the part where he said I NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 550$ that sounds like a person talking about something ,, hmm what do you think he's refering to here ????? I don't know but surely it can't be his Budget right ?
in regard's to Jayhawk
''What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503. ''
boy the part where he said I NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 550$ that sounds like a person talking about something ,, hmm what do you think he's refering to here ????? I don't know but surely it can't be his Budget right ?
looks like tower has it at 479 guess that's low 400's huh ?? again Futaba is PRICEY the guy said he has a budget ... THAT'S MY POINT .. but you went out of your way to discredit it .. and again that's my issue here .. I feel your post are bull**** your giving false information just as you did in this post that radio isn't low 400's and regardless of whatever you say it's a FACT that Futaba is expensive in the grand scream of things and that conderdick's a person OP..
personally any one's radio's don't make a good 3d flyer( it's more a personal pref or Bling factor ) he should spend his money on airframes and if he has a decent computer radio hold off on upgrades .. after your though the crashing phase.. ( this would be my frist susjestioin in ne ver said anything about what he should buy denver .. i just said what you where saying was crap... becouse your a bandwagon internet surfer hip on the lastest trend's and in the so called '' know '' but really you offer littel to no legiment adivce ..
Yes, Futaba is pricey. But the OP asked for a radio under 550 bucks, which the 8FG certainly qualifies. Just because Futaba is expensive means it shouldn't be suggested??? Even when Futaba has a terrific offering that comes in a 100 bucks under the OP's budget of 550? Yeah, that makes great sense and is a terrific reason not to consider the 8FG. Not.
12-15-2011 | 05:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: wyo69cowboy
hmmm...Futaba 8FG with $50 off coupon from Tower=low $400's in my book lol
hmmm...Futaba 8FG with $50 off coupon from Tower=low $400's in my book lol
well techincaly retail is 479 on that radio you could use coupon's you could know someone who has there own hobby shop
you can shop lift it insert whatever gemic you want to bend and twist the realilty
but RETAIL IS 479 ..
so again this is issue im factual denver stated a error with low 400's this is false regradless of whatever book your reading..... please give cerdit where cerdit is do not just bumb somthign becouse your on the badwagon with fuatba
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Dude, who cares what the retail price is. The fact is you CAN GET A F'N 8FG for the low 400s, even at Tower. And that is a FACT, it's not incorrect. Even at the mid 400s, or even upper 400s it still fits within the OP's budget of under 550 dollars. You're like arguing with a wall.
Also, i don't own an 8FG, Genius. So I'm neither on the Futaba bandwagon nor am i pushing a certain brand of radio.
Also, i don't own an 8FG, Genius. So I'm neither on the Futaba bandwagon nor am i pushing a certain brand of radio.
