Radio Systems for 3D
12-09-2011 | 05:52 PM
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Radio Systems for 3D
What would be some good radio systems for 3D. I need to keep it under 550$ I did not like the way the DX8 felt but a think I could get use to it. I like JR but the only one I could afford is the X9503.
12-10-2011 | 03:40 PM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
one thing i don't think anyone is pointing out about the 9503
and it's Valid
if you fly more then one model the throttle trim is funky on . i believe it's like a analog style trim I flew one guys radio and he was re trimming the ideal Evey single time ... i was super shocked to see the sliding trim and not the standard bump digital trim ...
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if you fly more then one model the throttle trim is funky on . i believe it's like a analog style trim I flew one guys radio and he was re trimming the ideal Evey single time ... i was super shocked to see the sliding trim and not the standard bump digital trim ...
12-10-2011 | 06:35 PM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: ThumbSkull
The analog throttle trim is one of the reasons I got the x9503.
It's much faster and more intuitive than the digital bump buttons.
The analog throttle trim is one of the reasons I got the x9503.
It's much faster and more intuitive than the digital bump buttons.
I'm sorry but that's just bull****
My Digital trim's i can change the trim's scaling ( IE The amount of travel one single bump equals ) it's clearly superior to t he analog .... and i don't want to re trim my gas engine ideal ... also there's probably some safety to not having a constantly re do the ideal on a giant scale plane
I really don't understand your statement sounds like your arguing it's superior to digi trim's ?
.. srsly am i the only one who See's analog throttle trim as a horrible idea ??
and really all the planes you own you want to re trim' the idel Evey time you change model's ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
and what happen's if the trim move's when the raido's powerd off ???? and it's super easyer to know you move the trim and the amount of trim that you move'ed by hearing the bump trim beep...
another nice thing if you can see the numbric vaule of your trim.. the analog thing you have to do some guessing by eye balling it where it should be... right ?
please give me a example... and maybe I'm wrong... I'm refering to more intitive ...
12-10-2011 | 06:48 PM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: BarracudaHockey
Yup, 3 flight modes for fixed wing.
Yup, 3 flight modes for fixed wing.
this statment i bleave is wrong heli isn't fixed wing ??
flight mode being sail plane acro and heli correct ??? or are mode 1 mode 2 ( flight control stick's being reversed i never heard of thrid mode ? )
12-10-2011 | 07:56 PM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
I'm sorry but that's just bull****
My Digital trim's i can change the trim's scaling ( IE The amount of travel one single bump equals ) it's clearly superior to t he analog .... and i don't want to re trim my gas engine ideal ... also there's probably some safety to not having a constantly re do the ideal on a giant scale plane
I really don't understand your statement sounds like your arguing it's superior to digi trim's ?
.. srsly am i the only one who See's analog throttle trim as a horrible idea ??
and really all the planes you own you want to re trim' the idel Evey time you change model's ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
and what happen's if the trim move's when the raido's powerd off ???? and it's super easyer to know you move the trim and the amount of trim that you move'ed by hearing the bump trim beep...
another nice thing if you can see the numbric vaule of your trim.. the analog thing you have to do some guessing by eye balling it where it should be... right ?
please give me a example... and maybe I'm wrong... I'm refering to more intitive ...
ORIGINAL: ThumbSkull
The analog throttle trim is one of the reasons I got the x9503.
It's much faster and more intuitive than the digital bump buttons.
The analog throttle trim is one of the reasons I got the x9503.
It's much faster and more intuitive than the digital bump buttons.
I'm sorry but that's just bull****
My Digital trim's i can change the trim's scaling ( IE The amount of travel one single bump equals ) it's clearly superior to t he analog .... and i don't want to re trim my gas engine ideal ... also there's probably some safety to not having a constantly re do the ideal on a giant scale plane
I really don't understand your statement sounds like your arguing it's superior to digi trim's ?
.. srsly am i the only one who See's analog throttle trim as a horrible idea ??
and really all the planes you own you want to re trim' the idel Evey time you change model's ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
and what happen's if the trim move's when the raido's powerd off ???? and it's super easyer to know you move the trim and the amount of trim that you move'ed by hearing the bump trim beep...
another nice thing if you can see the numbric vaule of your trim.. the analog thing you have to do some guessing by eye balling it where it should be... right ?
please give me a example... and maybe I'm wrong... I'm refering to more intitive ...
I don't have to re-adjust between models. They are all set-up the same.
Kill is at full down position, good idle is set about mid-way.
I don't have to listen for the beep for mid-point.
It doesn't take 30 bumps to get from one position to the other (or hold the button and wait for the long beep).
It's just easier to me.
I do like the digital buttons on all the other controls.
12-11-2011 | 06:05 AM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
Does the X9503 have flight modes or not. I call a flight mode a switch or switches that I can turn on and off while I am flying that change the control throws of more thin one control surface. It s like dual rates but can effects multiple control surfaces if desired. The throttle trim does not matter a few years ago that's all we had was analog trims.
12-11-2011 | 07:56 AM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
Yeah, I read the manuals of a few radios before buying.
Flight modes start on p18 of the manual which can be found here.
[link=http://www.jrradios.com/ProdInfo/Files/JRP2930-manual.pdf]http://www.jrradios.com/ProdInfo/Files/JRP2930-manual.pdf[/link]
Flight modes start on p18 of the manual which can be found here.
[link=http://www.jrradios.com/ProdInfo/Files/JRP2930-manual.pdf]http://www.jrradios.com/ProdInfo/Files/JRP2930-manual.pdf[/link]
12-11-2011 | 03:58 PM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
I'm sorry but that's just bull****
My Digital trim's i can change the trim's scaling ( IE The amount of travel one single bump equals ) it's clearly superior to t he analog .... and i don't want to re trim my gas engine ideal ... also there's probably some safety to not having a constantly re do the ideal on a giant scale plane
I really don't understand your statement sounds like your arguing it's superior to digi trim's ?
.. srsly am i the only one who See's analog throttle trim as a horrible idea ??
and really all the planes you own you want to re trim' the idel Evey time you change model's ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
and what happen's if the trim move's when the raido's powerd off ???? and it's super easyer to know you move the trim and the amount of trim that you move'ed by hearing the bump trim beep...
another nice thing if you can see the numbric vaule of your trim.. the analog thing you have to do some guessing by eye balling it where it should be... right ?
please give me a example... and maybe I'm wrong... I'm refering to more intitive ...
ORIGINAL: ThumbSkull
The analog throttle trim is one of the reasons I got the x9503.
It's much faster and more intuitive than the digital bump buttons.
The analog throttle trim is one of the reasons I got the x9503.
It's much faster and more intuitive than the digital bump buttons.
I'm sorry but that's just bull****
My Digital trim's i can change the trim's scaling ( IE The amount of travel one single bump equals ) it's clearly superior to t he analog .... and i don't want to re trim my gas engine ideal ... also there's probably some safety to not having a constantly re do the ideal on a giant scale plane
I really don't understand your statement sounds like your arguing it's superior to digi trim's ?
.. srsly am i the only one who See's analog throttle trim as a horrible idea ??
and really all the planes you own you want to re trim' the idel Evey time you change model's ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
and what happen's if the trim move's when the raido's powerd off ???? and it's super easyer to know you move the trim and the amount of trim that you move'ed by hearing the bump trim beep...
another nice thing if you can see the numbric vaule of your trim.. the analog thing you have to do some guessing by eye balling it where it should be... right ?
please give me a example... and maybe I'm wrong... I'm refering to more intitive ...
i prefer analog my self.... i set all my idles to be low and steady at half trim... when im flying i usually keep it at 3/4 trim...time to land i bring it back to half trim... i land and kill the motor with trim all the way down... im so used to it.... im sure i could adapt a method if i had dital trim...but im glad i dont own a radio with it on the throttle
12-11-2011 | 06:39 PM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
bc i don't need to .. i know digi trim's are better
bc i don't need to .. i know digi trim's are better
You made me explain my answer. Let's hear your explanation. Maybe we can all learn something.
12-12-2011 | 08:50 AM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
Yes, I was speaking of flight modes in AIR mode, I make mistakes but I dont "mis speak" about radio questions very often 
Don't be fooled, I moderate helicopter forums but fly everything from Gliders, Giant Scale gassers to small electric planess, 3D and scale helis, aero towing, hell I flew the blimp at a few hockey games.
Who says you can't adjust the sensitivity of the analog throttle trim sliders? Thats a mis-speak for sure. You absolutely can adjust sensitivity of the analog trim slider.
I like them better but its all in what you're used to. FWIW to do product reviews I have to fly both Futaba and JR/Spektrum Its no big deal getting used to either one.
As someone said above, proper throttle geometry setup and all my IC engines kill at low, idle at mid.
Don't be fooled, I moderate helicopter forums but fly everything from Gliders, Giant Scale gassers to small electric planess, 3D and scale helis, aero towing, hell I flew the blimp at a few hockey games.Who says you can't adjust the sensitivity of the analog throttle trim sliders? Thats a mis-speak for sure. You absolutely can adjust sensitivity of the analog trim slider.
I like them better but its all in what you're used to. FWIW to do product reviews I have to fly both Futaba and JR/Spektrum Its no big deal getting used to either one.
As someone said above, proper throttle geometry setup and all my IC engines kill at low, idle at mid.
12-12-2011 | 11:56 AM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
get tired of seeing your post Denver
i think if you read the OP he's got a budget..
get tired of seeing your post Denver
i think if you read the OP he's got a budget..
Edit: and if he was considering a DX8, then he can certainly consider an 8FG for the same money. And how do you "know" that digital trims are better? Just because you think so makes someone else that likes analog trims wrong, i guess.
12-12-2011 | 12:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: DenverJayhawk
I think if you cared to read up or do any research on the cost of these radios before mindlessly posting your closed minded thoughts, you'll know that the 8FG is well within his posted budget of under $550.
Edit: and if he was considering a DX8, then he can certainly consider an 8FG for the same money. And how do you ''know'' that digital trims are better? Just because you think so makes someone else that likes analog trims wrong, i guess.
ORIGINAL: zacharyR
get tired of seeing your post Denver
i think if you read the OP he's got a budget..
get tired of seeing your post Denver
i think if you read the OP he's got a budget..
Edit: and if he was considering a DX8, then he can certainly consider an 8FG for the same money. And how do you ''know'' that digital trims are better? Just because you think so makes someone else that likes analog trims wrong, i guess.
Also, for a budget of $550 or less, I think the 8FG Futaba would be a great choice, as would a DX7 or 8. Depends on his future plans, but the 8 channel stuff gives you more options for the future, with mixing for multiple servos per surface, etc. I started back into the hobby 5 years ago with a Futaba 7C, but switched to a 10C in just a couple years to get more channel/mixing options.
12-12-2011 | 10:01 PM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
Hi <b style="font-family: tahoma, verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(251, 252, 255); "><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000">lcgj</font>, </font>[/b]There are so many issues about DX8. Use DX7 it is better than DX8.
12-13-2011 | 04:25 AM
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RE: Radio Systems for 3D
ORIGINAL: MattyWhite
Hi <b style=''font-family: tahoma, verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(251, 252, 255); ''><font color=''#000000''><font color=''#000000''>lcgj</font>, </font>[/b]There are so many issues about DX8. Use DX7 it is better than DX8.
Hi <b style=''font-family: tahoma, verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(251, 252, 255); ''><font color=''#000000''><font color=''#000000''>lcgj</font>, </font>[/b]There are so many issues about DX8. Use DX7 it is better than DX8.
Why is it better? it surely can't be DSMX, it's far superior.
