Mine is still in the box because I need to rob the Double Vision of all of its servos and motor etc. Also I need another day added to the normal week :-)

Eric.

I'm still waitng for mine so I can't give you any personnel input. I have read allot about the plane and I can't think of anyone saying anything other than It was an absolute dream to fly. I have heard a few talk about the weight not being as advertised- but who cares about the weight as long as it flys great. Monokote ( or what ever they cover it with) stripes have a tendency to leave the airplane. Weak tail wheel/ complaints of having to cut the cowl for either the stock or slimline muffler. So far to me these are small items. I'll bet that I couldn't even begin to buid one of these for the money and think about the time we would have in it. Lets hear form the rest of you all about the plane.

As I mentioned, I've only flown mine once last weekend and will be taking it out again this weekend. It's a pleasure to fly and doesn't give you any surprises. The DV replaced an 72"ws Extra that we lovingly termed "Snappy the Extra" due to it's snapping/ tip stalling problem. I was afraid to fly this thing because if I pulled to hard on the elevator, it would snap. Probably something I could have adjusted out but I didn't buy it to adjust things. I bought it to fly.

On the DV, we did "Walls" and it was amazing to see it just POP up with nothing funny happening. I didn't have a throw meter that had %'s, mine only has inches. The DV's instructions only have %'s so I had to eyeball the throws. I ended up pretty close. I had a little too much elevator on low rates (don't need much) and too little aileron on low rates. High rates are well.... high (full 3D).

Rudder is VERY strong and hmmmm.... What else can I say. I'm not experienced enough to give you the small details but suffice it to say, this thing flies great.

I'll play a little more this weekend.

I think the reason the thread has gone slow is because the people who have said it flies great have said so. What more can they say? It flew great again?

Good luck with yours.

Here's another:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_22.../anchor/tm.htm

I have been building on my Double Vision a little each night for the last week or so and have been keeping a detailed list of all of the things that I have done. I will share this when I am finished. So far I like the plane and have little to complain about. Will keep you posted.

Roy

Has anyone noticed their horizontal stab becoming loose?

I was packing up this weekend and noticed the stab had quite a bit of up and down play in it. A fellow club member suggested epoxying the tube in since I don't need to remove it for storage.

FYI- An expert flyer at the club got a chance to fly my DV (he also has one on the building table) and really liked it. It was good to get a thumbs up from someone who was qualified to critique the plane.

Are you getting play from the tube area? In other words the elevators tip side to side changing the angle to the fuse side? Or do you get rotation from front to back changing incidence??

Anywho... mine seemed a little loose tipping side to side out fo the box... I found that a strip of masking tape on one side of the tube only filled the gap tightly and eliminated nearly all the side to side play. If yours is tighter you might try scotch tape.

I didn't want to glue the tube in the fuse in case I had a big blunber that snapped an elevator halve off and the tube too.. you'd be screwed whereas if left stock you could just order another tube and elevator pair.

I haven't been able to fly at all these past 6-8 weeks... but I did get a lot more time on my DV prior to that.

Without a doubt the best flying gasser I've had the pleasure of flying. The only thing that compares is the Extreme Flight 68" Yak on glow... and I can't wait til the 50cc one comes in... Chip said the Vision is simply awesome and that if I liked the DV I'd LOVE the Vision...

Here's a couple videos I posted awhile back, but just to keep others from having to search thru this thread for them...

[link=http://www.renderwurx.com/proofs/mydv2.wmv]Maudib DV2[/link]

[link=http://www.renderwurx.com/proofs/mydv.wmv]Maudib DV1[/link]

The first one (DV2) has the best footage.

On both I dive, no throttle and rotate than slam full high elevator.... the plane slams to an elevator and comes down very slowly.

Same thing on walls... Full throttle level flight... drop throttle and about a 1/2 second later full hi rate elevator... As Emeril would say: "Bam... Double Bam"

Harriers are quite solid and there's just nothing about this plane that puts fear into me about it doing somethign nasty.... it just won't snap.

It of course knifes nicely with just a litlle of ail. and elev. coupling. It just flies awesome.


I think I've said ths before... the best way I can describe it's perfomance is it flies like a light profile... plenty of time for correction, nothing funny, very capable... yet it's just small enough to make transporting easy, and big enough to fly like a 40%.

Without a doubt when it's demise comes.... I'll have another... I may even get another and shelve it so I don't have to wait....

It's up and down play. i.e. Teeter/ Totter. Didn't check forward and back movement. I'll try taping it and see how that goes. I really don't mind gluing it as, like you said, if this one goes in, I can easily see getting another one.

I think you explained the flying characteristics very well. I can only add my personal opinion, which should be obvious by now. I love this thing and feel TOTALLY comfortable with it.

I came from a Creek Hobbies Extra (affectionately nicknamed "Snappy" the Extra.) Breathing too hard on the elevator would cause it to snap. I never spent too much time trying to fix it. A tree took care of that project.

The DV is SO much more stable. It truly is all that AND a bag of chips.

PS,

Forgot to say I broke my tail wheel trying to bend it back. I modified it at the field so I could fly it, but I'll need a new one. So far, in this thread, it looks like a Sullivan, Ohio Superstars, or Central will work.

One look at the stock tailwheel and I decided I wanted more rudder clearance... with a stepp takeoff the stock wheel will allow the rudder the tap the ground...

I used the Dave Patrick Small Tailwheel... works very well.

-David

Many tailwheels have different virtues. For example I like both the Central Hobbies ball-bearing tailwheel and the sullivan spring tailwheel assemblies. But I found the CH tail wire would bend between the two support-bearings and the Sullivan assembly suffered from the-bearing-area wearing out and getting sloppy.

The answer was to combine them both. I swapped the sullivan spring-coil into the ball bearing base and finished up with a strong and much longer lasting tailwheel assembly.

Maybe this will work for you?

Good ideas, guys. I really like the DP tail wheel, but (rant coming) won't support a company with such awful customer service. I think my friend is still waiting for his "in stock" canopy.

Good idea on the combo wheel. I think that's the winner for me. I trashed the bearing trying to do my field repair, but it's not really necessary. Should still be fine.

Thanks.

A question for someone that has had a chance of flying this great looking biplane. It seems that the gear is really narrow for a tail dragger. Any problems with taxing?

Thanks.

With the exception of the weak tail wheel, I've had no problems taxing it due to narrow landing gear.

Now the profile of the fuse and HUGE rudder make it "fun" in windy conditions to get back to the flight line.

do you guys think this would make a good first gasser a friend has one for sale and I really like the looks of it.
thanks

It was my first gasser. To be honest, I didn't really see a difference (other than the fuel, duh) between the overall operation of this plane v.s. my glow planes. Same electronics (pcm receiver), same radio, same yadda, yadda, yadda.

Oh, but get a fire extinquisher.... just in case.

I bought the Double Vision and DA50 combo from ChiefAircraft and just ordered a standard Muffler from DA. Will the standard Muff from DA fit with the Double Vision. I just noticed that some of you guys were talking about a Slimline Pitts Muff. Did I make a bad purchase? Thanks.

Yes, but you'll just have to cut more out of the cowl. Mine motor was vertically mounted and there was a pretty large section cut out. Now that I have the cannister, I'll be replacing cowl.

The standard muffler is also very loud (102db). If it's not a concern for you, no worries. It was too loud for our field.

Congrats!

Update:

I finally got around to fixing the loose stab tube. Masking tape was too thick but Scotch tape was perfect. I was surprised by how much movement (in my eyes) was cured by Scotch tape being as it's so thin.

I also noticed whoever glued the tube into the right elevator half was kinda sloppy. The stab wouldn't sit flush against the fuse'. I filed the glue away and now it's a nicer fit. That in of itself might help to prevent the movement in the future.

Flight Report:
First off, I love the plane. I think one reason I like it, is I fly pattern, and this thing tracks just like a 2 meter pattern ship. Then all you have to do is change rates, and this is a big gental 3D machine. I taught myself how to do rolling harriers with it, It hovers and torque rolls like a dream.
I have a BME 50 in the front, and if I had to do it all over again I would have put a larger engine up front. If your going straight up and do a snap roll, or a couple of point rolls, it will have lost mosts of it's steam. Mine came out around 17.5 lbs., and I'm getting 6900 RPM with a 22-8 MSC prop. It's enough to hover, but it's a very slow pullout from the hover. The plane comes out a little tail heavy (hands off inverted flight), so a larger engine may help.
Just my 2 cents.

Nudist colonies and spinning props don't mix. [X(]

I hate to ask -------- but are you speaking from first hand experience?

And if so-------------did it hurt much??

I was commenting on the picture that was posted. No personal experience.

took mine out the box today - looks good - will run it with da50r/zdz50ng - hitec 5945/5995 and lipo's

The smile on your face tells it all...