Guys,

I am thinking of running an artistic aerobatics/freestyle event up in Scotland either this year or next year but probably next year due to how late in the day it is.

I would propose a two-day event comprising 50% freestyle and 50% schedules as follows:

3 X 4min freestyle to music or not

1 X Known schedule (5 manoeuvres)
2 X Unknown sequences (9 manoeuvres)

This would give you 6 scores of which the pilot takes their best 4 (2 from freestyle, 2 from schedules) giving a possible 4000 points (each round would be normalised to 1000). If time was an issue an unknown and a free would be dropped.

Models: Anything goes but the pilot must use the same model for the free as for the unknowns and knowns.

If anyone is interested let me know. If there is insufficient interest then the event will not take place or it will but as part of an established event e.g. the Scottish Nats.

Angus

I'm in. Gota hurry my laser up but IM IN!!! Think next year would be best, but laying down the known schedule early would be good. This sounds great.

PS, any help you need I'll try my best.

Sounds like a good idea, even if it is in Scotland [X(] (have not been back to Scotland for a long time, would like to pay a visit)

I agree that it is probably a bit too late to get going for this year seeing as you want to do schedules and so on.

I think you would struggle on the no changing plane rule, as things happen and break down, which is why you often have spares. Perhaps including in the schedules a manouver that can only really be done by a freestyle plane would do better.

But I am interested (though wont promise anything )

This is probably closer to me than the British freestyle champs! Where are the scottish nats usually held?

The no changing rule would not apply if someone crashed. It was meant to make it a more even playing field i.e. someone who flew an F3A model would have an advantage in the schedules but a potential disadvantage for the free.

The Known schedule I propose is this:

1) Figure "Z" 2 point roll up
2) 1/2 square loop 2 of 4 pt roll down, 1 1/4 positive snaps opposite. Exit cross box upright
3) Half of a 3 roll, rolling circle. 1 roll out, 1/2 roll in. Exit cross box inverted
4) Stall turn, 4 pt roll up, 1 1/4 negative snap down. Exit upright.
5) 6 of 8 pt roll, 1 1/2 negative snap opposite (knife edge to opposite knife edge) 3 of 4 pt roll to upright

This is the same schedule as flown in artistic aerobatics back in 2001/2002 and would be the unlimited schedule. If there was enough interest there could be a lower class.

Angus

Scottish Nats are at Castle Kennedy (Dumfries and Galloway), I think in mid August.

Angus

YEPPERS, I'd better start practicing yesterday.

I dont think No 2 works (should perhaps be 1 1/4 snap?)

No 3 I dont understand. Does it mean we do 1 roll in the first quarter, half roll in the second quater?

No 5 requires a lot!!

On another point I think I would mix up the rounds a bit more. HAve the known schedule first, then two freestyle rounds on the first day.

Then on the second day have the freestyle round in between the two knowns.

sounds like a semi-different pattern comp

Sounds good to me!!, That's what a good comp needs some structure, and a nice balance between set or unknown schedules and freestyle.
I know some people start to quiver at the very thought of set schedules ,believing it's just for us F3Aers

Simon

Well spotted Sprink. Have amended it.

No 3: its 1/2 of a rolling circle, i.e. 180 degrees. The first 120 degrees of that is one roll done to the outside. The last 60 degrees is 1/2 a roll done to the inside. Hence 1/2 of a 3 roll rolling circle, rolls opposite.

I’ve gone for a kind of TOC style for the format combining schedules and freestyle. It’s actually got a lot more freestyle than the TOC (free counted for about 20% there, here it's 50%). I'm aiming to attract both F3A pilots and out and out 3Ders.

Also, good comment about mixing the rounds up and it's what I was thinking. Basically it would be something like this:

Day 1:

Round 1) Known
Round 2) 1st Free

On the lunch break the pilots make up the Unknown sequence 1 which they then fly after lunch (round 3).

Day 2:

Round 4) 2nd Free
Round 5) 3rd Free

Lunch break make up 2nd Unknown

Round 6) Unknown 2

It may sound a bit ambitious to some but if you were to ask me what would be the perfect event combining pattern and freestyle this would be it so this is what im aiming for.

Also, I know a news reporter who did a short film about me 2 years ago and I think there may be a chance he would be willing to cover the event and televise it. Food for thought anyway.

Cheers,
Angus

Might want to post it in the pattern forum too, I remember that it was chosen for AA discusions.

I've posted the same message on the GBR/CAA web page and also the SAA web page.

www.gbrcaa.org
www.saaweb.org.uk/

Angus

Wisn you the best of luck angus. I'd really like to come but its a bit of a trek for me. I'd only want to bother participating in the freestyle rounds though.

Bit of pattern do you good Master Shaw. Plus why come all that way and do 1/2 the event? Come on dude, get the finger out and start practicing those straight lines

Angus

Sounds good Angus, I was thinking of geting out to some of the existing comps around Scotland to see what goes on and maybe give it a go. I'm not that good a flier so would have some work to put in before I could do the schedules you have described but you have to start somewhere eh.

Next comp is on Sat 21st May in Dumfries. Bit of a trek I know but it's always a good comp. For more info contact the CD (my brother Malcolm):

[email protected]

Angus

dan, if you go to any of the comps give me a shout, I'll come with ya. tried t get to the last 2 but something(read: girlfriend) gets in the way.

Hi Angus,

If the proper, full event is going to be next year, why not run a more laid back informal 3D fly-in / teach-in later this year? The last F3A event is in September so maybe in October (Brrrr)

Persanally I've enough trouble flying 2-D but plan to try and learn some of the 3-D manouvers. Taking part in a proper comp would be too big a jump though, and maybe offputting to other fliers as well.

cheers

Tom

Hi Tom,

A teach in sounds good. Could do it in the lunch hour of a normal F3A comp even and then maybe try to hold a mini freestyle event/fly-in at the end of the season.

Angus

yep that sounds like a good idea

No bother I'll give you a shout and see if we can arrange anything.

Anyone got any suggestions for a lower class known schedule?

Ive had a few comments about possibly running a freestyle fly-in at the end of the year. Whos interested?

Angus

I'll play. How bout using the sportsman schedule for the known section of the lower class, get the best of both worlds?

OOOHHH, can we have a cirkus-style paddlin pool just for kicks?

Yip I would be interested if there is a lower class to start in.