Now that's way too cool! Figured it was Germany, Homeland Security would never let us play with one of those over here.
Okay, got the washers in. I'll let ya know how it works out.

Oh well, I put a extra washer on the leftside of the engine , looking at it from behind. To give it some more right thrust. Didnt know about the up thrust . Guess I'll fly it like it is and see how it goes. BTW, I've got a DL 50 on order, going in my H9 Extra 260........Gee.... 2 ballistic planes in my hanger

Well, I have to say, with the DL-50 this plane is now my favorite. It flies better than my 80cc Edge with the way it tumbles. I think I will use this plane for IMAC next year.

Dude, you're gonna love that engine. I'm taking my SD Models Extra 260 out for it's maiden today. I'll let you know how it did.

Question guys... The DL that you guys have got.. Is it the new version that's been advertised? With the new stand offs etc. Also.. What's the deal with the muffler? It seems some of you guys put a JTEC or another aftermarket instead of the stock. Does the stock suck? Something wrong with it? The "new version" has some improvements to the muffler. Should I look into getting a different one if I were to go ahead and order this engine? One more thing.. Still regarding the DL50. Have you guys changed out any of the bolts? I've read a couple threads that talk about some of the stock ones not being of good quality? If so.. Which ones? Thanx.

Just a matter of personal taste and preference. I run the stock muffler and there's nothing wrong with it I can find. Some guys like the rear dump and some people prefer the tuned pipes with a can. A lot of it is driven by sound restrictions at their fields. I don't have that problem.

OK so I finally got a maiden flight on the CAP. Special thanks to the two guys who really helped out with making it possible, and those of you in this forum for all the great pointers. I was too busy to know if any pictures were taken, but I'll find out when I can.

Radar, there are nothing wrong with a stock muffler other than what calls "side dump", so you would have to chop more cowling away, as upposed to Jtec which is "wrap around" stile, so it is more compact and thus cowl "friendlier". On the top of that, some after market mufflers provide an installed smoke system fitting. I hope it helps.

Oh hey I forgot to add this...............I never built my wing into a one piece wing. I epoxied the joiner in one side and used everything else how it is supposed to be. I have a 2 piece wing for my CAP that works great now. Just a thought for those of you limited on space like I am. The planes flies great and there are no issues with leaving it in two pieces with the joiner epoxied in one side.

how about some pics? of the joiner configeration.

How about some pics of the flight????

Now this is interesting. I wonder just how hard you can pound on it until it lets go?

Dang I thought he was kidding Please glue the wing together..........Might save you and some others some grief down the road

We tried before flying it to beat it to see if it works and it is rock solid. I'm working on the pics and even some video. Our little group has grown into a really big one lately. I'm waiting for video on a cd and for Roger to send me some pictures.

I wish you all of the best buddy but I have to say that as soon as that spar and locating pin wear in and get a little play in them I wouldn't load that setup up with positive Gs. I've seen really good planes with aluminum spar tubes fold up on the right maneuver.

http://www.billhempel.com/video/whknife.wmv

While I agree with you about not making the Caps wing a 2 piece in this way Lou, Bill Hempels WH Edge wing failure was structural from the wood surrounding the aluminum wing tube, not the tube itself. There were a few production planes that shared this same failure.

Mike.

I agree with you whole-heartedly but the fact remains (and the reason for presenting the video) that there are extreme pressures exerted upon these wings. This case was the extreme and the construction of the wing was, I believe, an early one, but the point, I feel, is well demonstrated. Trust me, no one would hate to see CowboySaver lose this plane more then me. I understand his problem with transport and have a similar problem but this is NOT a good long term solution in my opinion. [&o][&o][&o][&o]

What a fun new toy.................Here's some pics for ya.........Made the canopy like yours Al as a reminder.........thanks for everything.........Thank you Roger Mayo for the pictures...........You are the man!

Guys,

While I agree this is not a good solution and would recommend and already did that he glue it, maybe he is on to something here so lets let him test this out.

I gotta admit the thing looks great belching smoke so Cowboy, if you could get pics of the layout you used that would be cool.

Mine is mothballed at the moment, I need to recover it because the covering was getting too many little hangar rash holes in it for my tastes and have yet to decide on a scheme for it. I always did like the scheme Mike Goulian first used in one of his earlier Cap's (basically a pearl blue and red with a tan stripe), clean simple but I suspect for our purposes it will be way to hard to see in the air. The Bretling scheme has been done so much that it's getting old.

I actually need two schemes, I have a ARC Carden 40% Cap232 to do over the winter

Maybe I should do a little contest with the winner getting something...like a DL50, wadda you all think

Looks really great! Hope your wing system holds up for ya! Try and get some video next time!!!

I'm working on the video Al. You bet I want you to see it. The smoke system is a tank from one of my old crashed trainers with a stopper for smoke oil, a Sullivan sky writer pump, and a Sullivan gas/smoke fueler fitting in the side, and the typical tygon and neoprene tubing. I am running the smoke oil through a brass tube wrapped around the head and then into the muffler at the pressure fitting with a check valve between the muffler and the rest of the system. I have a Perry pump for the fuel. This 160 vibrates plenty to run the engine really nice with the Perry pump. I have to thank cublover for making smoke possible on this one. I also inspect the wing and fuse connections after every flying session for any signs of a problem. It' been twisted up in flight a few times. So far nothing is out of the ordinary, still looks brand new.

Hey guys,,,"Cublover" here. I helped cowboy with this project, I took it off for the first flight,,and flew it again last weekend...I'll bet I put it in a 7-g snap...so fast and unreal,,,this plane tracks so good it beat the hell out of the Edge540 I had...Cowboy did a great job putting this thing together,,but you got to admit,,,the wing ,when together, is HUGE!!!!!...just for a moment,,I've been building for many years...so think about this for a min...if you look at where the wing meets the fuse...it is already locked into place."trail'n edge to the fuse"..there is 2 wing dowls,,,and large I might add,,holding it to the fuse,,,,now with 2 bolts to suck it on the fuse...do you really think its going to go anywhere???If I had designed this plane,,I would have put a tube in it...I told cowboy,,that if this plane EVER has a mishap, I'd buy him a new one.....this plane is really well built. but it never hurts to make it the way it works for you....But now it fits in his truck,,and he dont need a trailer...hehehehehehehehe...he needs one for all the spare parts,,bolts,,glue,,and things that im sure ive never seen in that truck...but he gets it to the feild,,puts it together,,,and fly's the hell out of it...If someone gets a new one of these,,,before you glue the wing halfs together,,,just try it,,,you and a buddy grab each side and "try" to twist it off...it AINT gonna happen...lol...but if you have the room...by all means,,,glue away....you guys have a great day/night,,whatever time you get this...see ya sunday bud......

PS guys,,,,,,,,,Build em the way you fly em...if you land hard...put some "glass" on the gear block,,,if your worried about weight,,,,,get a bigger motor...hahahahahaha...ask cowboy.....89 inch plane..."Purple Haze",,,27 pds...flew for manyyyyyy years...

Wing pictures.......look at the light switch on the wall......Can you tell this is where I work on airplanes......LOL....

Some smoke setup pictures...........that tank is out of a Hangar 9 Arrow trainer........I'll get some of the pump an other connections when I have the cowl off next.

Oh trust me, we are really pulling for him! This could be an entire new concept in building this plane and we REALLY hope it holds up. We just never considered doing this and now that we think it out it seems a bit risky to those of us that have a one piece wing. Hard for us to visualize this thing with a two piece. We don't think he's wrong, we just think he's daring to try this. We are all hoping it last's forever! Then when I eventually replace mine I can do the same. It's just scary!!!![&:][&:][&:][&:]