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Well, the cap got her maiden voyage today. YAAA
. A few observations i had. The first thing is the plane had probabley the most sensative controls i have ever seen. I changed my endpoints for very low rates on the first flight and even with expo, it was very respnsive. I will have to add in more expo with increase in control throw or add in dual rates. I am not a dual rate flyer however and prefer just using max deflection with alot of expo. Next, after hearing all of this talk about bad vibrations with gassers I was pleased to see the plane really didn't vibrate as i expected. As a matter of fact, almost all of the glow 3d planes i used to have vibrated about 3 times as much as the cap. Another thing I noticed is there was very little if any glitching during flight. I couple times the plane would get hit with a minor glitch but nothing very significant. So the throttle servo mounted right behind the firewall is not a problem at all and i would suggest it to anyone as i runs SOO much smoother. Also, the slightly out of balance spinner had no problems during flight. Landing was a walk in the park.
I once again had trouble starting the DL today but this time i am getting the hang of the procedure. I flooded it once by accident and can't get the cholk sequence down right. But i am getting better. The DL was running very rich for the first flight so performance wasn't the best. Yet i still had unbelievable vertical. I am talking 500ft in 2seconds easily. Really COOL. I landed because the engine was missing alot in the air and ALMOST [X(] died on me before i landed. I got here down and shut it off. We let it cool down and went back at it. This time, we leaned out the top end. Man it ran ALOT smoother. Will try again tomarow. So basically, the first full tank of gas we are getting 6500 on the xoar 22-8. Hopeing it will get better when i switch to 50:1 and i continue to let it break in. I am still around 2:1 thrust to weight ratio.
. A few observations i had. The first thing is the plane had probabley the most sensative controls i have ever seen. I changed my endpoints for very low rates on the first flight and even with expo, it was very respnsive. I will have to add in more expo with increase in control throw or add in dual rates. I am not a dual rate flyer however and prefer just using max deflection with alot of expo. Next, after hearing all of this talk about bad vibrations with gassers I was pleased to see the plane really didn't vibrate as i expected. As a matter of fact, almost all of the glow 3d planes i used to have vibrated about 3 times as much as the cap. Another thing I noticed is there was very little if any glitching during flight. I couple times the plane would get hit with a minor glitch but nothing very significant. So the throttle servo mounted right behind the firewall is not a problem at all and i would suggest it to anyone as i runs SOO much smoother. Also, the slightly out of balance spinner had no problems during flight. Landing was a walk in the park.I once again had trouble starting the DL today but this time i am getting the hang of the procedure. I flooded it once by accident and can't get the cholk sequence down right. But i am getting better. The DL was running very rich for the first flight so performance wasn't the best. Yet i still had unbelievable vertical. I am talking 500ft in 2seconds easily. Really COOL. I landed because the engine was missing alot in the air and ALMOST [X(] died on me before i landed. I got here down and shut it off. We let it cool down and went back at it. This time, we leaned out the top end. Man it ran ALOT smoother. Will try again tomarow. So basically, the first full tank of gas we are getting 6500 on the xoar 22-8. Hopeing it will get better when i switch to 50:1 and i continue to let it break in. I am still around 2:1 thrust to weight ratio.
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That engine has the unique quality of going silent on down lines. It always comes back though. You really shoulden't have any trouble starting and you should be up around 7200 with that prop. It sounds like you need to spend some time tuning it in. I have heard nothing but good things about that engine, and I'm running one in my cap.
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cambo glad to here it went good for you . i orderd the 1/8 tubing in brass and alumin i should get it next week in the mail from my sister, i went with 1/8 by 36 in long to wrap it around the big bisson exaust .i had a big problem landing today the set screw was not letting the idel go down enough for me to land on our short runway , my bisson exaust came loose and with no back prusser it was a high idle, but with the muffler on i could lower the rpm no problem and also shut it off back to work on the plane.
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Went out to the field again today. I just really like this plane. It is big and easy to see in the field compared to other planes. It seems to fly very precise compared to my glow 3d planes wich feel really "loose" in the air. At the same time, i can really through this plane around. It feels like my x50 and i am on low rates! The one thing i am really surpised about is the way this thing lands, it floats all the way down without a problem. When i took it up high and tried to stall the plane it wouldn't drop the wing. Was really cool. Another aspect about this plane, well gassers in general, is the engine noise is much louder than any other plane out there so i always no what is going on. The power to weight is pretty darn cool. It just keeps going and going and going.
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The DL seems to be running better every flight. I have a little over 1 hour of running on it.
. The DL seems to be running better every flight. I have a little over 1 hour of running on it.
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Glad you are having fun with the Cap too Cambo......This is my second "3d" plane but by far better than my Funtana 40 I had first. I just need to stop watching it and start flying it. I've almost lost it a few times in pure awe of how the thing performs. I started being a spectator instead of a pilot...While I had the sticks in my hands........[X(]
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Hay Lou , my sister got my order from tower Monday ,so i should my 1/8 tubing for the preheater here by Tuesday next week . hopefully the preheater tubing should help with more thicker smoke for my cap. now it is not getting hot enough to burn it in the muffler and some oil is coming out of the muffler unburned .i redid the mixture no tyranny oil so should be better smoke
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Sounds great. You really need to put a DL-50 in that bad boy!! Then you won't need a pre-heater! 


Be sure and get some pics of your setup buddy. Not to mention video of the flights!!!






Be sure and get some pics of your setup buddy. Not to mention video of the flights!!!



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lou i went online and found the dl50 web site i do not know if it is the wright one but i compared it to the fuji 50 , there is about the same hp and rpm so they say but the dl 50 is a pound less in weight. what oil are you using in the dl50 , is there any unburend oil residue comming from the exaust , i am at 50 to 1 synthitic and oil is slightly leaving a mark the bottem of the plane from unburned oil , is that normal this is my first gas plane and i do not know and i do not have any one here to ask.
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If your engine is broken in you should be running a pure synthetic oil at 50:1 or higher depending on the oil. I am currently running Belray H1R at 50:1 with no residue. As soon as I finish up the liter of that I bought I'm going to Amsoil Saber at 80:1. As for the DL-50, the general consensus seems to be that it out-performs all of the 50s out there including the DA. I get 7400 rpm with a Vess 23A prop on mine. Here's a great thread to read on oil.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_65..._1/key_/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_65..._1/key_/tm.htm
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OK, another 5 flights today. I was able to lean the engine out more tday. I am getting over 7000 now on the xoar. Impressive verticle performance. I still don't really tust the engine as it is still running in. The transition just keeps getting better however and i decided to try a hover. I must have been at 25% throttle, really cool! The cap also knife edges well, better than i would have expected from a fuse plane. THe DL just keeps getting better and the cap flys just awesome. I can't wait to switch the rates over to high and have some fun.
Other than that i am just trying to run in the engine. Full throttle uplines with idle downlines. I can really feel this prop break the plane. Just really cool.
Other than that i am just trying to run in the engine. Full throttle uplines with idle downlines. I can really feel this prop break the plane. Just really cool.
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After a few more flights today I must say, the low speed flight characteristics of this plane are FANTASTIC. It just floats and floats and flaots. I just can't stall it.
I couldn't imagen this plane at 11.5 pounds with an os 160.
I couldn't imagen this plane at 11.5 pounds with an os 160.
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Parts came gota go pick em up at the post office in the morning , here the mail is not as fast as in the states . hopefully i will have some better vids up soon also cut down a apc 20x10 prop to 18x10 to try to get the revs up .
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I know it's hard to get stuff where your at, but for what it's worth...
Probably would be better to keep the diameter and drop the pitch, that would mean getting a 20x8 or so. That way you hold keep more throttle through the entire flight, keeping the motor running a little hotter.
Probably would be better to keep the diameter and drop the pitch, that would mean getting a 20x8 or so. That way you hold keep more throttle through the entire flight, keeping the motor running a little hotter.
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i am cutting down a apc 20x10 because a orderd them instead of apc 20x8 witch are grate for the fuji 43, i have a set of 6 so i can experiment with them to get the rpm up so it will run hotter so i hope the smoke with the preheater will fog up the the sky . wishfull thinking.
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Sorry to here that cambo , here tomorrow it should be clear sky for some smoke ,cant wait . all work is done . Preheater is in , cut the ends off the bission muffler for some extra rpms , cut down the prop also . and also made a bigger velocity stack to ram some air in the carb . Not sure if tall end should be in front or back yet need to experiment.



