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Old 03-29-2007, 08:30 PM
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OK , I just watched the video of the 88" EF yak with a Brillelli 60 and an ES carbon fiber pipe. That's the sound I need for my Brillelli 36 GT. Does any one know which model of CF pipe would work with the 36GT ? Need help before I finish the 74" YAK.
Give a call to www.troybuiltmodels.com and they should be able to suggest a pipe or the guys at Brillelli.. I love the way my BME Yak with the DA50 on a canister sounds.

I think Maudib was making his 74" ready for a tuned or canister of some type. Look in the thread for it,or maybe Maudib could chime in here..

Cya,
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I'm lookin' to play with tp for the 1.60fx...

The only CF pipes I know are at

http://www.escomposites.com

Old 03-29-2007, 08:38 PM
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Finally got my Brillelli 36GT Serial Number 36004 today. This is a beautiful engine. I have everthing else ready to go. I hope over the next 2 weeks I can get it mounted up and ready for the maiden flight!!! Will keep you guys posted.
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Are you making any other modifications to the OS besides the pipe? Maybe bearings or a fuel pump? Just curious.

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I'm lookin' to play with tp for the 1.60fx...

The only CF pipes I know are at

http://www.escomposites.com

Old 03-30-2007, 04:38 AM
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I'm lookin' to play with tp for the 1.60fx...

The only CF pipes I know are at

http://www.escomposites.com

I am using an Aeroslave CF pipe on one of my pattern planes using an OS160FX . . awesome power and quiet too . .

http://home.comcast.net/~aeroslave/exhaust_systems.htm

It's light at less than 3 oz. I am running it with a Perry pump and it has GREAT throttle response at the length they recommend. I was in the middle of a Horizontal Round '8' with 1/2 rolls and forgot to increase the throttle as I headed up into the last 1/2 roll. It almost came to a halt before I just opened up the tap and it climbed away and completed the maneuver. Got a downgrade for the "hover" though
Old 03-30-2007, 07:04 AM
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Not at the get go... I'll run the stock 1.60 and these two different pipes... I have aonw of the 36's coming and may end up with it on here too...

I'm really doing the pipes for a test.


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Are you making any other modifications to the OS besides the pipe? Maybe bearings or a fuel pump? Just curious.

ORIGINAL: Maudib

I'm lookin' to play with tp for the 1.60fx...

The only CF pipes I know are at

http://www.escomposites.com

Old 03-30-2007, 07:08 AM
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Jeff... lloks like they only have pipes for the 1.60 sizr glows... di they have a CF pipe for 35cc-40cc gas inthe works that you know of?
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I haven't been this excited about a plane since my first 68" E.F.

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Old 04-02-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default RE: Extreme Flight RC Yak 54 - 74 inch!

Looks great! I'm excited about mine, too, but am still waiting on the engine. Hopefully it won't be too much longer. Scott said 2- 2 1/2 weeks when I ordered it and it's been 2 weeks, so if I'm really lucky, it may be here this week.

Been slowly working on the little things to kill time. All I need to do is glue in the rudder hinges and mount all the engine stuff.
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All done!!!! Finished the install of the Brillelli 36 this weekend. Final weight with Duralite 950 liIon ignition, Fromeco 2600, Miracle switch, Hitec 5985 on rudder, 5645 on ail/ele with wheel pants and a CF spinner. 11lbs 4 oz. Will post a few pics once I figure out how to resize them. I hope to maiden later on this week.

This is a AWESOME Looking plane. Already on the wait list for the 88".

Mark
Old 04-02-2007, 08:47 PM
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Hey guys,
Had a problem this weekend,the first one from this Awesome Plane.. Do some IMAC stuff nothing special,when the canopy blew off. Don't know exactly why... I emailed Chris from EF,just got a response today saying hes goin to send me a new one free of charge!!! Thats once again great customer service..
He just said to make sure I used RC56 around the inside of the canopy where it meets the wood structure. And to make sure there's no way that air can get under the canopy..

Thanks a bunch Chris..

Frank
Old 04-02-2007, 09:09 PM
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EXCELLENT weight Mark... IT's gonna be a real smokin' setup there... Did ya get any pics of the engien install as you went?
Old 04-02-2007, 09:25 PM
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Maudib,

I have a complete photo record of the majority of the build. I will post the pics of the engine install tomorrow.

Mark
Old 04-03-2007, 08:31 AM
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ORIGINAL: Maudib

Jeff... lloks like they only have pipes for the 1.60 sizr glows... di they have a CF pipe for 35cc-40cc gas inthe works that you know of?
Hmmmm . . not that I know. They are seriously into Pattern . . and I know they make a great pipe for the 1.60FX (which you mentioned?). Hey, worth asking them though . . you never know.

Cheers, jeff
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All done!!!! Finished the install of the Brillelli 36 this weekend. Final weight with Duralite 950 liIon ignition, Fromeco 2600, Miracle switch, Hitec 5985 on rudder, 5645 on ail/ele with wheel pants and a CF spinner. 11lbs 4 oz. Will post a few pics once I figure out how to resize them. I hope to maiden later on this week.

This is a AWESOME Looking plane. Already on the wait list for the 88".

Mark

That is outstanding!

What prop?
Do you know how accurate your scale is in that weight range?
Did you get an all up weight on the B36 power package on a calibrated scale before the install?
What does the CF spinner weigh?
Looking forward to the build pics!
Old 04-03-2007, 09:31 AM
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Here are the engine install and cowl cut-out pics. For the engine I made a template after I mounted the aluminum rails to the engine. Spend nearly half the morning doing advanced calculus to make sure it was perfect. It fit perfect! I used 10-32 socket head screws and double lock nuts. Notice the velcro for the ignition (Thanks Maudib!!!) For cutting the cowl I made a template of the cowl diameter at the spinner back plate. Using card-stock I used the black pinstripe as a reference point and made a quite extensive template for the areas that protruded from the imaginary cylinder from former F1 to my spinner backplate template. I felt like a kid cutting and taping everything together. I then transfered it to the cowl and marked it, cut with a dremel. It fit perfectly the first time!!!

STG...
I have 3 props to try out TBM 20x8, Xoar 20x8 and PT models CF 20x8.
My scale is pretty accurate as I use it to measure my cocaine when I get it in[X(]. Just kidding. But I have some standard weights and they always measure to within 0.01 oz
The CF spinner with backplate weighs 1.9 oz. Its a Pete Models 3"

Here are a few pics. Sorry they are not the best quality as I am a doctor and pilot not a photographer

Mark
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:39 AM
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Looks really nice Mark... look forward to your prop numbers... do you have a tach?
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Sure do!
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STG...
I have 3 props to try out TBM 20x8, Xoar 20x8 and PT models CF 20x8.
My scale is pretty accurate as I use it to measure my cocaine when I get it in[X(]. Just kidding. But I have some standard weights and they always measure to within 0.01 oz
Nice pictures.

I almost ordered a PT models CF prop, but then found out they were significantly heavier than the wood(not as heavy as other CF props though).

I take it your all up weight was with the Xoar 20x8@~3.375oz? You can always step down to a lighter 19x6or7 or 18x8 to6 good wood prop and save more weight.

What kind of scale do you have that calibrates to .01oz in the 10 pound range?[X(] You must be weighing valuable stuff.

Where is CG & where did you place batteries ect?

What size gas tank?
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Sorry messed up the decimal place. Only to the 0.1 oz.
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Ah heck... and I thought it was accurate... (tee hee) Most of the digital scale you buy now (even the cheapee ones) are pretty accurate... as long as they are tested against base weights you can pretty sure it's fairly close...

I know why STG is interested... is because that's an incredible low weight... and we all want to make sure we know what items are used so perhaps if we can find lighter stuff we are unaware of we can look into it.

Also we always try and bring up things that MAY have been forgotten in the final weigh-in... it happens sometimes...

One of the reasons I like to be sure... is that if there IS a missed item, scale that's off, etc... then people who follow the items verbatim and come up considerably heavier get disappointed...

With the "in the air" items in the box being about 7.2 lbs and your completed weight at 11.25 lbs... You have 4 lbs in added stuff... or 64 oz...

The engine is 50 oz... leaving 14 oz for the rest...

Spinner 1.9 oz
4 x 5645 and 1 5895= 10.5 oz
PT Models Prop (20x10) 4.5 oz (A wood prop maybe 3 oz at the very least)
Fromeco 2600 3.3 oz
Duralight 950 2.5 oz
Miracle switch 1.1 oz

That's 23.5oz not including extensions, glue, velco, padding, plumbing, etc (and assuming the light wood Xoar prop)

Let's ballpark 2.5 oz for all the extras... So were are at 26 oz and you only had 14 to work with... somewhere we are missing 3/4 lbs...

I'm usually pretty good at figurmatin' an estimated weight (so is STG) and we are trying to find out what happened to 12 oz...

There could be some variance in "arf out of box weight" and maybe the engine was an oz or 2 lighter than spec'd... but still can't come up with 12 oz...

Again... not doubting your belief... just looking for a reason for a potential error or a pathway to get to that weight...


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Ah heck... and I thought it was accurate... (tee hee) Most of the digital scale you buy now (even the cheapee ones) are pretty accurate... as long as they are tested against base weights you can pretty sure it's fairly close...

I know why STG is interested... is because that's an incredible low weight... and we all want to make sure we know what items are used so perhaps if we can find lighter stuff we are unaware of we can look into it.

Also we always try and bring up things that MAY have been forgotten in the final weigh-in... it happens sometimes...

One of the reasons I like to be sure... is that if there IS a missed item, scale that's off, etc... then people who follow the items verbatim and come up considerably heavier get disappointed...

With the "in the air" items in the box being about 7.2 lbs and your completed weight at 11.25 lbs... You have 4 lbs in added stuff... or 64 oz...

The engine is 50 oz... leaving 14 oz for the rest...

Spinner 1.9 oz
4 x 5645 and 1 5895= 10.5 oz
PT Models Prop (20x10) 4.5 oz (A wood prop maybe 3 oz at the very least)
Fromeco 2600 3.3 oz
Duralight 950 2.5 oz
Miracle switch 1.1 oz

That's 23.5oz not including extensions, glue, velco, padding, plumbing, etc (and assuming the light wood Xoar prop)

Let's ballpark 2.5 oz for all the extras... So were are at 26 oz and you only had 14 to work with... somewhere we are missing 3/4 lbs...

I'm usually pretty good at figurmatin' an estimated weight (so is STG) and we are trying to find out what happened to 12 oz...

There could be some variance in "arf out of box weight" and maybe the engine was an oz or 2 lighter than spec'd... but still can't come up with 12 oz...

Again... not doubting your belief... just looking for a reason for a potential error or a pathway to get to that weight...
My plane with the B46 was very close to 12 pounds before I got carried away with the high-density foam (2x thick and foam under all straps), shipping tape (wrapped the battery packs tight), and larger tires.

If I built mine with the OS160 with light muffler (slimline), light motor mounts, 18x6 wood prop and used stock tires and did not go crazy on the foam or tape, I would have been able to bring it in at ~10.75 pounds with a 13oz fuel tank. Not sure how I would have been able to balance it though? [&:]-- maybe 1 elevator servo mid ship?



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Your was without pants & spinner too?

Here's couple "all ups reported on the Combo thread"

First yours STG:

E.F. 74” Yak/ Brillelli 46 combo
HT 5625’s &Airwild 1.5” arms in the tail
HT 5645 on rudder &Airwild 3.0 arm on rudder
HT 5625’s in wing & Hitech 1.25 HD arms on wings
Futaba 3004 on throttle (might go to HT425)
Four 12” twisted servo extensions
Sullivan graphite Nyrod # S584 with 2/56 ball links on throttle cable
Smart-Fly Ignition Cutoff
Fromeco Failsafe Heavy Duty Slider Charge Switch
Cheap battery packs 1500mah 2/3a 6V battery pack on receiver and 750ma 2/3aa on ignition (6oz together)
Dubro 10oz gas tank
Upsized tail wheel (from Mini 3D main gear) + 3/16oz
KAVAN 4” AIR TIRES with chrome hubs (+2.5oz pair)
Weight RTF will be 12pounds 4.5oz dry


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My Yak54 with the brillelli 46gt.

It weighs 13lbs, it will be less when i get the new muffler.
B&B gas tank
NX 20x8 prop
Hitec 5985 on the rudder
Hitec 5645's on the elevator's and aileron's
Air Wild aluminum servo arm's
2700 6v battery

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Chris Hinson:
Brillelli 40cc powered Yak
12 lbs 2 oz.
Hitec 5645s on ailerons and elevators
5985 on rudder
standard HS-425 servo on throttle
Fromeco 2400s on ignition and flight pack.
Mejzlick 20x7.

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ORIGINAL: Maudib

Your was without pants & spinner too?

Here's couple "all ups reported on the Combo thread"

First yours STG:

E.F. 74” Yak/ Brillelli 46 combo
HT 5625’s &Airwild 1.5” arms in the tail
HT 5645 on rudder &Airwild 3.0 arm on rudder
HT 5625’s in wing & Hitech 1.25 HD arms on wings
Futaba 3004 on throttle (might go to HT425)
Four 12” twisted servo extensions
Sullivan graphite Nyrod # S584 with 2/56 ball links on throttle cable
Smart-Fly Ignition Cutoff
Fromeco Failsafe Heavy Duty Slider Charge Switch
Cheap battery packs 1500mah 2/3a 6V battery pack on receiver and 750ma 2/3aa on ignition (6oz together)
Dubro 10oz gas tank
Upsized tail wheel (from Mini 3D main gear) + 3/16oz
KAVAN 4” AIR TIRES with chrome hubs (+2.5oz pair)
Weight RTF will be 12pounds 4.5oz dry
No, no pants or spinner. 3.5oz prop, +~2.5oz of packing tape, extra foam and hardwood/plywood added.

Also:
I'm doing the review for FlyRC with the Brillelli 40GT. Just finished it up today, and I couldnt' be happier with the results. Haven't had a chance to maiden it yet, but expect it will fly very light. Here are the specs:

Brillelli 40GT-stock muffler, ignition, and standoffs
4x Hitec 5625's 1x Hitec 5985 (rudder)
Futaba PCM rx (probably end up running the DX7 and AR7000, though)
(2) 1500 Lithium packs Smart-Fly Standard regulator Smart-Fly Ignition reg Smart-Fly
Optical Ignition
12 oz. fuel tank (versus stock) Dubro Gas filling valve
Menz 20x7-S prop
3.25" Dave Brown spinner (4.5 oz)

The weight came in at 11 lbs 14 oz, which I think is really light. The only thing I did to reduce weight was eliminate all switches. The canopy is so easy to get on and off that I simply use Deans plugs between the batts and the ignition and receiver to unplug between flights. The ignition is switched optically through the Optical Ignition, so no need for a switch there. This is made possible by the simple canopy attachment method.
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O.K. fair enough... yours is the lightest I've seen reported...

12 lb even without your wheels and padding/tape/etc...

Now add the 4 oz back in for wheel pants and 1.9 oz spinner you don't have...

12 lbs 4 oz... - 6 oz for lighter engine...

11 lbs 14 oz... where might we lose 10 oz to get to 11 1/4 lb?


Doesn't really matter... it will fly great at 11.25 lbs or 12.5 lbs... Or 13.5 for those that got that...

I'm just trying to find out how I can get mine to 11.25 lbs... best I can see... I can't.





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