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Old 07-19-2003 | 07:30 PM
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Feathers done, wing tomorrow, on schedual so far, tho i fear my little board here is too small to build this wing and theres nothing in the shed i can build on yet.
the real kicker is gonna be getting all those little bit to finish by friday night.

i can't resist taping on bits as soon as possible to get an idea
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Old 07-19-2003 | 07:53 PM
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i use my bedroom door as a pitch guide for props its so twisted lol
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ARTF needed!! NOW!!
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Originally posted by phillybaby
yes.
Malc! help, whats this 2"x1/2"balsa strip for?????????????? it looks like aileron capping strip but im not sure. still trying to find the 1/2"x1/4" balsa for the elevator. do i cut it from this?
Yep thats for the aileron angle.

There aint any 1\2"x1\4" I used the scrap from the tailplane sheet
Old 07-20-2003 | 01:45 PM
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Yep should be fully simit Just stick them!!

CStrutt. Doubt I will run out of room for toys!! Might decide enough is enough before then

Gonna bring my new van!!!!

Take a peek mines the T625 as shown

http://www.buerstner.com/_reisemobil...ebersicht.html
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Philly you really should use the instructions before you start.....
yer.. i know, but start at the beginning hey. i'll be sure my little booboo is in the review
reminds me of a test in school, 4 pages of questions, ones that try to catch you out, i was pleased when i got to the end untill i saw the last one.
70. Do not answer any question on this questionare.

Wing tips? i thought had its own seperate parts.
anyway, it's all in the shed now with it's jigs to sit and set, bottom cap stips need fitting, leading edge, R2a and then build ailerons
Old 07-20-2003 | 07:04 PM
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Just had the call from Ali, he has just flown the Capishe 50 (I could not get a word in edgeways) he took his Fibre classics Extra, Loadsa money helis, and other stuff, and only flew them all once. The Capishe however got 15 flights and Ali recons it’s the best 40 size plane he has ever flown!! he said he was practicing moves he has never seen before or dared to fly with other planes, he was well impressed as im sure you will hear in good time.

all I can say is that these words coming from probably (almost definitely) the best freestyle pilot this country has is a compliment of vast magnitude!!

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Jolly good news !

Just need to get a picture from him now !?

Philly... excuse my blunder... not for wing tips... for fairing either side of fin at the back...
Old 07-21-2003 | 11:17 AM
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even more stuff for your website then archie!
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I'm still flying my Capiche50, must have had 100+ flights and still not bored of it yet.

A 140 size should be something special..............
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And thats why i want one!
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The Capishe however got 15 flights and Ali recons it’s the best 40 size plane he has ever flown!! he said he was practicing moves he has never seen before or dared to fly with other planes
after seeing him at Woddsprings with the monster that some comment!
talking of which, i just got some servos and stuff from him to finish off by this weekend, none in stock, but he was hunting around in full sets and phoning the other shop to find some. he got them via someone else in the end, great service, thanks Ali
lets hope i can finish in time and make that effort worth it
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Oh yes, i missed that bit

"practisingmoves he has never heard of before or dared to try with other planes"
After seeing his recent displays at Woddsprings and W&W
How is that possible?
Old 07-21-2003 | 04:25 PM
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Umm

Proud I is

If you can get yer head beyond ARTF???

Gotta get Ali into a 140 know. If he thinks the 50 is good "Boy is he in for a treat"

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Malc,
I would be proud as well if i had designed a plane that had got all the top english boys interested!


For all those wanting a Capiche ARTF , it would be the beginning of the end, and it would start to get compared to eastern made rubbish. An ARTF would be bought be people who just fly their planes round in circles at full throttle, without using the rudder!(like some people i know)

Hows the progress on the Capiche 140 going?
Are you going to hastings malc?
If so bring along the Capiche 140 for Ali to have a play with so i can watch!
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Capiche 50 ARTF.

Its an idea, but it would take a great deal of investment, particularly if proper reproduction was required..... and believe me I would require it..

An ARTF one would have to meet the same weight and strength targets... which is not as easy as it sounds when going ARTF.... that is why the effort has been put into making the Capiche 50 an easy build, with maximum results on the weight/strength side.

I spoke to Ali today and he told me he was actually trying to break it for a while... but he didnt suceed, thank god !

Im expectsing some photos and words from him soon

goota go
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Well, if he was trying to break it, at least it shows he was enjoying himself!
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i'm not against ARTF, i like it, a propper built Capiche.. nice
but, at last theres a big news, popular plane that alot of people want, and the best bit is, they have to build it!
it's a skill dying out, and it might get alot of sunday flyers who've only ever had ARTF, into balsa bashing
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I don't think I can really say more about this plane than has already been said. Even if I could I would just be repeating the same rubbish as I have been coming out with for the past two days since I flew my Capiche.
It seems that I have told the same thing to about 100 different people about this little model.
Things like
" I can t believe how much fun this is"
" I hate small planes so how come I like this one so much"
" How the hell does it stay together?"
Basically I took my Capich out with a little skepticism this weekend. As yet I have only seen one fly and that was Paul skinners which doesn't really count as he can make any plane look appealing. So it was off to the field with a selection of models that included a ZN Synergy and my new 2.6m Composite Extra. I put my Capiche in at the last minute just in case it was windy.
I ended up flying the other models once a piece and the Capich must have totaled nearly 15 flights. Now for me thats a miracle. If I manage to fly a model more than three times on a day out this is a lot, so the poor old Capiche didn't now what had hit it.
There were a few skeptics in my club like most i guess. These guys told me that these Capiche's have their wings fall off. well that was just like setting me a challenge. The next three flights were full of full power walls both positive and negative. Followed by blenders at idle that worked up to a 3/4 power blender. Really when i look back at it it was pretty irresponsible flying, but the capiche just took it all on the chin. Not a cracked wing mount, no snapped stab not even wrinkly bit of film. I don't know who was more impressed me or the club moaners.
As for all round flying. Top notch.
I did my first harrier landing. Now this is a move that I have seen done a million times before but have never really had the balls to do. Ive seen a few disasters with flicky models that let go at about 4 foot or models that harrier like alead balloon pancaking into the strip. The Capich is easier to land in a harrier state than in forward flight. 50 foot up 10 foot away from the point you want to Land on. Dial in full up, catch the initial wing rock balance with power and just use throttle to rate your decent. A little jab of power at point of touch down gave me a run out of 3 foot. Superb.
I tried this two point harrier that the boy seems to have become infamous for. High alpha into wind, and just blip the throttle with a little instant snap roll and you are now upside down high alpha doing a negative harrier. I repeated this till I got down to about 8 foot and then lost my nerve. This is a move that needs to perfected to a landing.
The two point harrier then became a 4 point high alpha stationary roll. I liked this one as I fell into it by mistake and a few practice attempts had it looking half decent.
Blenders. What can I say about blenders. This model goes from a Tasmanian devil blurr to a graceful flat spin so sweet it puts my big majestic to shame.
I found it pretty clean in the roll, I would like to try some differential to see if I can get it any better.
Knife edge was good. Very little coupling at low alpha high speed. A bit more work to do on the sticks when it comes to high alpha stuff. I am sure a little mixing would sort this out if you are into that.
Rudder to elevator couple was a lot better than I expected. I did a few circuits just banging the rudder to and fro expecting that nasty pitch and dutch roll toward the ground and was surprised that it took a lot of provoking to get this response. Inverted flat circuits were good. Hard to tell how good as it flicked a bit as it went down wind. I reckon it was blowing 15mph
Prop hang was Ok, again hard to tell as it was windy. Same applies to the torque roll. The only thing I will say about this was that all controls stayed super sharp when upright so when things went a bit west it was easy enough to drop back into a T/R.
Tracked pretty good for a small plane. It was certainly easier to keep on line in those conditions than my synergy. I think I have mine a little nose heavy as slow rolls need a fair bit of down to keep the line straight. I don't know where mine balances apart from its on the wing somewhere. Although it flies in a nose heavy sort of solid way I am S**t scared to make this model any more tail heavy as it such an animal as it is I really don't know what will happen. I might ask Archie where the best place to balance these things is.
Apart from that not much more to tell really. Sorry for such a long winded load of old tripe but I really feel the need to share my fun with others. God knows every body in the shop is sick of hearing about my weekend with the capich so I thought I would bore you lot.
Anyway. I feel the need to say a big well done and thank you to Malc and Pete, and I hope everybody else with a Capich has as much fun as I did, and will.
Regards Al
P.S In my humble opinion I think you would have to look long and hard to get somebody to ARTF this model to this weight and still take the punishment that it will take. Even if you don't like building or like me don't get the time find somebody that does and pay them ARTF money to build you one of these.
Capiche 140 Bring it on
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I'd love a Capiche, but with these sterling rates....looks like it'll never be.
Old 07-21-2003 | 07:52 PM
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I enjoy building, so see ARTFs as a waste of money, as where is the enjoyment in assembling one of them?

Just to see what it was like, I recently bought and assembled an ARTF - Flair Lark - and it just proved my point to myself.

It does fly well (now that I am starting to trim it properly) but I didn't get much satisfaction from building, and have no attachment to it.

Also it is WAY too heavy for both its size and suggested engines. 46? LOL I have put my 61 FX in it with a Just Engines purple pipe, and it still runs out of steam on long verticals.

So Archie, and Malcolm, stick to expanding your range (ie 140 ), rather than catering to all those that can't build.
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I remember seeing Archie doing a parachute landing at sandown from about 100-20 foot, right down onto the tiny sandown runway, with the wind blowing and lots of turbulence. Now thats hard!

Ali,
Your posts not a load of old tripe, thats the best flight review i have ever read!
So many of the mags just say; the plane(acrowot or whatever)flies very well, but thanks to we have now got a really specific idea as to how a Capiche 50 flies 3d stuff.
Thanks!

Archie is going to have a field day putting your post on his website!

I saw dave doing the 2 point parachute(elevator, harrier, whatever)at sandown, and ive copied him. Now for some practice for the freestyle comp! An inverted parachute down to 5 feet and then roll over an then touch down. The judges would probably swallow their clip boards!
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See Archie,,, i was not pulling your plonker!! Have faith
Old 07-21-2003 | 09:47 PM
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Of course... Inever had any doubts from Mk II onward ! LOL

It is so helpful when you have friends that are fkin superb pilots to try out your models and more importantly friends that will tell you the truth an not what you want to hear.

Malcs original design was pretty hot, and the feedback from all the testing resulted in the current model.... to have Ali unbiased comments like that is the icing on the cake.... although I must be honest and say that by now if he had not liked it I would have wondered what was wrong with him !!

But then no body knows me do they.... The Boy and Ali and Paul Skinner, not to mention Phil Vandries and Paul Carr, are amongst our finest british pilots and they are all flying Capiche 50s.... why ? because they want to and because they can !!

I seem to remember saying once before...

This is the year of the Capiche !

(Just as well Malc does not ride Motorbikes..... he'd need to get a new helmet !)
LOL

On another note... went to a meet tonight.... one of the Jersey crown flew one of his low wing aero sport models last weekend.... was giving the Capiche a break...and he had not realised what a dog the model was... made him relaise and appreciate the quality of the Capiche as a general sports model let alone 3D wizzo stuff...

I am pleased to say that I have a big Smile on my face.... let alone what corbin must have... ear to ear at least, if not meeting up on the back of his head !

As Budweiser say...

Its True !
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it's hearing comments like that from Ali after seeing him take a 3 day old Eurofighter come out of dives ( must have been sub stall!!! ) at just a few feet, TR his biggun around and all that other stuff without hearing the clap of his butt tightening that shows what you've got on your hands Archie.

Kinda makes me wonder tho, there have been loads of 50 size planes, all have a wing, and some a tail similar to the Capiche, so what is it that makes this one so different and suddenly break out of the "50 sport" bracket and into "large scale" flying qualities.

i REALLY!!!!! don't want to dent mine when its done, but maybe it will bring out more confidence. can't wait to try a diffrent style of flying, and i think i'm gonna work really hard on making what is normal type flying, better and more controled.

btw, any set up tips and mixing you've used Ali, let us mortals know so we can dial it in too


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