Robert.

Not heard of one on a 46 yet??

But hangs on a 36

Good news. Looks like i am the last person on this thread to get a Capiche 50, so i have finally decided to get one .Then i will get the whip out to get dad to build like crazy so i will be ready for the freestyle comp( only one month to go) with a suitable plane!whoo hoo!

I know of a couple of customers who have used this engine cos I sent them the pipes for them.

Its a good engine I believe and with the Capiche pipe I dont see why it wouldnt hang easily....

We have one flying with a Magnum 61 RFS (4 str) and it manages torque rolls which takes more power than hanging, but it is slow out the top... not much to spare...

I would say 46fx with 12,25x3,75 or12x6 would be fine.

One of those flown at Sandown had an ST 50 with 11x7 on the front and it had plenty of guts... OS 46FX should be equally capable.

i think the best set up Ive seen is the YS 63 and the Saito 72.

Best 2 stroke Ive seen is probably the West 50, but as Baron says, we have one flying here with West 36 and pipe on 11x4. Its a bit heavy now after repairs (was one of the original protos) but the owner seems to get on with it just fine at around 5lbs !

Ive made a bit of a long job of answering this havent I ! sorry !

welcome to the family luke !

I have same problem

Must get 140 finished for " The Boy"

oh yes get on with it Malcolm!
I can just picture that chap breathing fire as the comp nears!

LOL

I must be the only one on this thread with out a capiche (awwwwww)

Ive got to many progects at the moment for my mum to let me have one

Ian

I think Malcolm was a bit surprised by my West 50, need full power to KE loop my ass LOL
currently using a 13x4, got a 12x6 and 12.25x3.75 to try as well thanks to Petes Prop Box

Use a 13x4w its BALLISTIC

lol i got a dust and magnum for that.

oh yes, Archie, did i get a thumbs up to make the review public now?

Were are you posting the review?

it'll be on my site, linked thought the existing Capiche page. theres also a few movies to come from Woodsprings, and a inflight video from our display

Phil I didnt say you needed full power just a little more than you were trying on that wobbly pass

To be fair it was your first go.

Try a 13x6 its good. the 12.25 x 3.75 is not a good choice for the plane on that motor to little pitch.

Plane needs very little power to fly but needs pitch to fly forward.

Baron

Actually I dont think the 12,25x3,75 is a bad prop for this motor on a two stroke 50 such as the west.

Its the fourstrokes at lower rpm that are not suiting the lower pitch props.

I do agree though that 13x6 is a good selection for a motor that will swing it... i.e. fourstroke.

I think that these 13" blades are too much ultimately on the 50 size two strokes... if not at the beginning, in time lag will ocur and perhap extra heat and then just when you are trying to get out of a low level 3D manouvre you dont have what you want when you want it
IMHumblestO

Before anyone starts saying ahh but my West 50 swings a 13x4W and a 13x6 is good and so on I dont believe that they do this without some lag... especially the 13x4W...

Theres a difference between it swings it and it works well long term.

I like the 12,25x3,75 because it has a unique blade shape, originally for free flight and it does pull better than its pitch suggests, but it must have rpm.

The Fun Fly blades now are too fat at the tips in my opinion, but that said, on the right motors with torque they do work on fun fly models but they are not being swung fast enough for good forward pull which the Capiche needs to fly its full repetoir (spelling !?)

crikey its been hot here today... 35... hardly been able to do anything ! apart from hose myself down in the garden every five mins
:stupid:

My 63 pulls 11,900 on a 13x4w the west on a throttle pipe 12,200 flat out on a test rig! Airbourne I reckon the YS has more grunt therfore more revability.

I still say the 13x6 is a better option and loads both motorslessthan the 13x4w

The 12.25x3.75 will rev better on the west50.

but still lacks forward pitch relative to rpm

In my most humblest of opinions sire

In my even more humblest opinion your grace... I agree about 13x6 being less load than the 13x4W.

12,25x3,75 still works well on a 2 str though.

For more pitch I would use the 12x6 on the 50, not the 13x6.... but perhaps the West T1 has a little more to offer to be fair...

Jester departing your greatshipness

bow

bow

hand comes out to my left palm up

... oh its just all too much !

OK agreed 12x6 better than 12.25x3.75 for 2 strokes

It will make less noise and allow the less torquey 2 strokes a faster pick up

YS still rules

Consider palm kissed my boy

ahhhhhhhhh, progress at last, here is my cap 50 wing bottom , top is not sheeted yet but will be after work tomorrow.

then its onto the fuz

i am amazed how quickly and easily this thing is going together,
the only thing that stopped me tonight was running out of cyano-damn and blast

now now boys you can't say the 12" props are bad coz Archie recomeneded them LOL
so far the 13x4 ha been ine, no lag, but in the hang i need a bit more control, i have a power band right where i'm hanging and it pops in and out of it. a 13x6 would go alright i reckon, but not that higha RPM so i'd loose a bit of climb, the 12.25 should be good for a bit of 3D and hanging, the 12x6 good for pattern. but i'm happy with the 13x4 so far, will have to try the others.

i have tried a 12.25x3.75 on my Leo 37 Cougar, constant throttle in the hang it was ok, but it had no power to get out and got very hot, not enough RPM's on that pop to make it work, thats why i use a Master 11x4, they work better at 0 airspeed where as the APC likes to bite in and move.

isnt there something missing from that shot ?

gimmeee five and Ill figure it out...

i still got to cut the fuz sides!
thats why i built the wing first

do you mean the balsa on the inside of the fuz slot and the belly?

wingtips too...

i didnt want to add these until the fuz is built, to get it nice and snug

you can add them now if you want coz you have to sand them down anyway. i made another booboo there, i used scrap balsa, then when i came to build the bell pan my balsa bits where a bit high, ummmmm DOH!