Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
02-05-2013 | 10:24 AM
#51
RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
Not so fast there , ol Hoss ,
To most folks minds , a membership card is a document proving that a person has paid their membership dues for the current time period .
A License is a document obtained after passing a TEST to prove skills worthy of engaging in the Licensed activity . Now , Just cause AMA may have in the past , and may even in some documents still do , call our membership card a "License" , does NOT mean they are using the term in the way that the 99% of the rest of the general public does .
Ask anybody outside this discussion what constitutes the difference between a "Membership Card" and a "License" , and the educated respondent will counter with a LICENSE requiring some sort of TEST .
Anyone here take any kind of TEST to get their toy plane "License" ? .....
I musta ditched "school" that day
02-05-2013 | 10:35 AM
#52
RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
PS ,
Our closest thing to a "License" would have to be the oddly named "Turbine Waiver" , due to in fact having to demonstrate skills with Turbine powered Model Aircraft to pass among other things a flight test .
Lets ALL join hands and pray that the "Big Truck Guys" don't band together to require such tests for ALL of RC model aircraft . In their self important views , only THEY would have the knowledge of who should "pass" or "fail" , and that will be the final stranglehold on a once happily unregulated , or more properly spoken , SELF regulated , hobby that needs NO such "License" , "Regulation" , or whatever the "Big Truck Guys" wanna call it .
Some people just ain't happy till they're tellin OTHER people how THEY should live .
Toy plane license , , indeed !
02-05-2013 | 10:42 AM
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RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
ORIGINAL: init4fun
PS ,
Our closest thing to a ''License'' would have to be the oddly named ''Turbine Waiver'' , due to in fact having to demonstrate skills with Turbine powered Model Aircraft to pass among other things a flight test .
Lets ALL join hands and pray that the ''Big Truck Guys'' don't band together to require such tests for ALL of RC model aircraft . In their self important views , only THEY would have the knowledge of who should ''pass'' or ''fail'' , and that will be the final stranglehold on a once happily unregulated , or more properly spoken , SELF regulated , hobby that needs NO such ''License'' , ''Regulation'' , or whatever the ''Big Truck Guys'' wanna call it .
Some people just ain't happy till they're tellin OTHER people how THEY should live .
Toy plane license , , indeed !
PS ,
Our closest thing to a ''License'' would have to be the oddly named ''Turbine Waiver'' , due to in fact having to demonstrate skills with Turbine powered Model Aircraft to pass among other things a flight test .
Lets ALL join hands and pray that the ''Big Truck Guys'' don't band together to require such tests for ALL of RC model aircraft . In their self important views , only THEY would have the knowledge of who should ''pass'' or ''fail'' , and that will be the final stranglehold on a once happily unregulated , or more properly spoken , SELF regulated , hobby that needs NO such ''License'' , ''Regulation'' , or whatever the ''Big Truck Guys'' wanna call it .
Some people just ain't happy till they're tellin OTHER people how THEY should live .
Toy plane license , , indeed !
Regards
Frank
02-05-2013 | 04:17 PM
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RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
Huzza. It is like injury or criminal attorneys , so very easy to castigate and scorn them , but the same people flock to them when in dire need of help.
ORIGINAL: countilaw
Tradition..... I remember when I was just a kid about 8 years old and I got my first AMA card, I was extrmely proud. My grand father took me to Motts Five & Dime and bought a wallet just so I could carry my AMA card in it. It's nice that some things don't change and that some traditions continue. AMA is saving some money. They used to send out a NEW Rule book each year along with a sheet of AMA decals and the Annual membership sticker.
I see too many people *****ing about AMA, that is.... until they need something like insurance coverage. I wonder what would have happened to the hobby if AMA went out of existance 30, 40 or 50 years ago? Would we have flying fields today? Who knows?
I think we should be proud that we have the AMA, and appreciate what the AMA does for us, the hobbyist.
Frank
ORIGINAL: on_your_six
So why send out any membership cards? You could get a e-mail certificate to indicate membership... print it, and allow anyone to check and make sure you were current.
Why waste any of the membership card money? That's some low fruit to pick. And the rate to mail a 1st class letter just went up to $0.46
You could even do that with renewals... and vote on-line.
So why send out any membership cards? You could get a e-mail certificate to indicate membership... print it, and allow anyone to check and make sure you were current.
Why waste any of the membership card money? That's some low fruit to pick. And the rate to mail a 1st class letter just went up to $0.46
You could even do that with renewals... and vote on-line.
I see too many people *****ing about AMA, that is.... until they need something like insurance coverage. I wonder what would have happened to the hobby if AMA went out of existance 30, 40 or 50 years ago? Would we have flying fields today? Who knows?
I think we should be proud that we have the AMA, and appreciate what the AMA does for us, the hobbyist.
Frank
02-06-2013 | 06:30 AM
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RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
ORIGINAL: mongo
since those cards are sent out by a 3rd party, there is a bit more outlay involved that just the postage mentioned. i promise ya, the third party is not doing the work for just the cost of postage.
since those cards are sent out by a 3rd party, there is a bit more outlay involved that just the postage mentioned. i promise ya, the third party is not doing the work for just the cost of postage.
02-06-2013 | 10:01 AM
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RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
ORIGINAL: init4fun
Not so fast there , ol Hoss ,
To most folks minds , a membership card is a document proving that a person has paid their membership dues for the current time period .
A License is a document obtained after passing a TEST to prove skills worthy of engaging in the Licensed activity . Now , Just cause AMA may have in the past , and may even in some documents still do , call our membership card a ''License'' , does NOT mean they are using the term in the way that the 99% of the rest of the general public does .
Ask anybody outside this discussion what constitutes the difference between a ''Membership Card'' and a ''License'' , and the educated respondent will counter with a LICENSE requiring some sort of TEST .
Anyone here take any kind of TEST to get their toy plane ''License'' ? .....
I musta ditched ''school'' that day
Not so fast there , ol Hoss ,
To most folks minds , a membership card is a document proving that a person has paid their membership dues for the current time period .
A License is a document obtained after passing a TEST to prove skills worthy of engaging in the Licensed activity . Now , Just cause AMA may have in the past , and may even in some documents still do , call our membership card a ''License'' , does NOT mean they are using the term in the way that the 99% of the rest of the general public does .
Ask anybody outside this discussion what constitutes the difference between a ''Membership Card'' and a ''License'' , and the educated respondent will counter with a LICENSE requiring some sort of TEST .
Anyone here take any kind of TEST to get their toy plane ''License'' ? .....
I musta ditched ''school'' that day
I never insinuated that the AMA use of "license" was any more than the 2013 Membership Manual containing terms that are way beyond being correct for today's use of the Membership Card. AMA is, IMO, far behind where they should be.
As far as License being used as per your "Testing" is concerned, I took a test for a Texas driver's license - judge approved - at age 14 (1950). Years later I moved to IL and had to take an IL test for an IL. License. (1968) In 1985 I returned to TX. I went to the TX DL office and they traded me a TX DL for my IL. one. NO TEST
Now last month I went on line and received a new DL good until 02-19-2020. NO TEST. [8D] Maybe surviving these women TEXTING through the red lights is "test" enough.
Same for my TX CHL. I did not have to test for the last renewal. Current license is good until 02-19-2017.BTW I ditched school a lot of days. When I graduated from High School (1954) the Principal had something to say about each student. Mine was that either Horrace was too sick to go fishing or fish were not biting because those were the days he came to school.
I suppose he forgot those days of flying CL in my back yard with an 80 Ft radius circle. HA.IMO again, AMA is too far into today's problems to bring their manuals up to date. They P & M about "Leader Members" not doing anything yet when there are a number of projects that LMs could assist in getting some of the old stuff restructured, they never move in such direction. Government is government no matter the level.
Edited to correct that which CBP brought to my attention.
02-06-2013 | 11:59 AM
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RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
ORIGINAL: Hossfly
Sounds like you may have ditched several days when reading skills were being presented.
I never insinuated that the AMA use of ''license'' was any more than the 2013 Membership Manual containing terms that are way beyond being correct for today's use of the Membership Card. AMA is, IMO, far behind where they should be.
As far as License being used as per your ''Testing'' is concerned, I took a test for a Texas driver's license - judge approved - at age 14 (1950). Years later I moved to IL and had to take an IL test for an IL. License. (1968) In 1985 I returned to TX. I went to the TX DL office and they traded me a TX DL for my IL. one. NO TEST
Now last month I went on line and received a new DL good until 02-19-2020. NO TEST. [8D] Maybe surviving these women TEXTING through the red lights is ''test'' enough. Same for my TX CHL. I did not have to test for the last renewal. Current license is good until 02-19-2017.
BTW I ditched school a lot of days. When I graduated from High School (1054) the Principal had something to say about each student. Mine was that either Horrace was too sick to go fishing or fish were not biting because those were the days he came to school. I suppose he forgot those days of flying CL in my back yard with an 80 Ft radius circle. HA.
IMO again, AMA is too far into today's problems to bring their manuals up to date. They P & M about ''Leader Members'' not doing anything yet when there are a number of projects that LMs could assist in getting some of the old stuff restructured, they never move in such direction. Government is government no matter the level.
ORIGINAL: init4fun
Not so fast there , ol Hoss ,
To most folks minds , a membership card is a document proving that a person has paid their membership dues for the current time period .
A License is a document obtained after passing a TEST to prove skills worthy of engaging in the Licensed activity . Now , Just cause AMA may have in the past , and may even in some documents still do , call our membership card a ''License'' , does NOT mean they are using the term in the way that the 99% of the rest of the general public does .
Ask anybody outside this discussion what constitutes the difference between a ''Membership Card'' and a ''License'' , and the educated respondent will counter with a LICENSE requiring some sort of TEST .
Anyone here take any kind of TEST to get their toy plane ''License'' ? .....
I musta ditched ''school'' that day
Not so fast there , ol Hoss ,
To most folks minds , a membership card is a document proving that a person has paid their membership dues for the current time period .
A License is a document obtained after passing a TEST to prove skills worthy of engaging in the Licensed activity . Now , Just cause AMA may have in the past , and may even in some documents still do , call our membership card a ''License'' , does NOT mean they are using the term in the way that the 99% of the rest of the general public does .
Ask anybody outside this discussion what constitutes the difference between a ''Membership Card'' and a ''License'' , and the educated respondent will counter with a LICENSE requiring some sort of TEST .
Anyone here take any kind of TEST to get their toy plane ''License'' ? .....
I musta ditched ''school'' that day
I never insinuated that the AMA use of ''license'' was any more than the 2013 Membership Manual containing terms that are way beyond being correct for today's use of the Membership Card. AMA is, IMO, far behind where they should be.
As far as License being used as per your ''Testing'' is concerned, I took a test for a Texas driver's license - judge approved - at age 14 (1950). Years later I moved to IL and had to take an IL test for an IL. License. (1968) In 1985 I returned to TX. I went to the TX DL office and they traded me a TX DL for my IL. one. NO TEST
Now last month I went on line and received a new DL good until 02-19-2020. NO TEST. [8D] Maybe surviving these women TEXTING through the red lights is ''test'' enough.
Same for my TX CHL. I did not have to test for the last renewal. Current license is good until 02-19-2017.BTW I ditched school a lot of days. When I graduated from High School (1054) the Principal had something to say about each student. Mine was that either Horrace was too sick to go fishing or fish were not biting because those were the days he came to school.
I suppose he forgot those days of flying CL in my back yard with an 80 Ft radius circle. HA.IMO again, AMA is too far into today's problems to bring their manuals up to date. They P & M about ''Leader Members'' not doing anything yet when there are a number of projects that LMs could assist in getting some of the old stuff restructured, they never move in such direction. Government is government no matter the level.
You really are a credit to your type . Course , which type that is , exactly , has yet to be determined ........ But , your a credit to em , allright .........
02-06-2013 | 12:34 PM
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RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
Nobody gonna contest Hoss's claim that he graduated high schol in 1054...?
Who was the principal, Hoss.......Charlemagne..?
When I applied for my fishing license they had me go out back to their pond to demonstrate proper casting and baiting technique.
Who was the principal, Hoss.......Charlemagne..?
When I applied for my fishing license they had me go out back to their pond to demonstrate proper casting and baiting technique.
02-06-2013 | 11:02 PM
#59
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RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
Good one CBP. Sometimes I feel that old!!!
Trying to edit that out but the machine here keeps throwing me to a list of other websites. Trying to get rid of me. BOO HOO!!
Trying to edit that out but the machine here keeps throwing me to a list of other websites. Trying to get rid of me. BOO HOO!!
06-25-2013 | 04:19 PM
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RE: Forget the DOGS. It's Bash AMA time.
ORIGINAL: Hossfly
The AMA Membership Card is still a "license".
Anyone here ever read any of the AMA Membership Manual?
>>>>>>>>
Sanctioned Events starting page 16, 2013 Membership Manual
Page 18
"4. Who May Compete. Only those holding a current model flier’s
license may compete in sanctioned competition as outlined above.
The CD or his/her representative shall examine the sporting license
of each contestant to determine its validity and the contestant’s eligibility to compete.
4.1. A licensed flier is one who holds a current model flier’s sporting
license issued by the AMA"
>>>>>
May be More. Go look for it if you want to know more
ORIGINAL: Jim Thomerson
When my son went in to get his learner's driving permit, they wanted two forms of ID. He used his school ID and his AMA card. That was back when the card was a license. Lady remarked she didn't know you needed a license to fly model airplanes.
When my son went in to get his learner's driving permit, they wanted two forms of ID. He used his school ID and his AMA card. That was back when the card was a license. Lady remarked she didn't know you needed a license to fly model airplanes.
Anyone here ever read any of the AMA Membership Manual?
>>>>>>>>
Sanctioned Events starting page 16, 2013 Membership Manual
Page 18
"4. Who May Compete. Only those holding a current model flier’s
license may compete in sanctioned competition as outlined above.
The CD or his/her representative shall examine the sporting license
of each contestant to determine its validity and the contestant’s eligibility to compete.
4.1. A licensed flier is one who holds a current model flier’s sporting
license issued by the AMA"
>>>>>
May be More. Go look for it if you want to know more
