Okay Andy, I'll take your word on that. IIRC, there was some talk of those meetings, primarily with Amazon and some of the shipping companies, that was supposed to be advisory at most. Now, in the middle of a lawsuit, it comes out that was not the case. This could almost be considered an "antitrust" case the way things are starting to shake out

What's important is NOBODY has joined the lawsuit. The title of the email, "Drone Pilots Strike Back ..."in big block letters tells me it's all hype.Remote ID or no Remote ID, Jonathan Rupprecht's business is providing services to commercial drone operators, waivers, compliance, etc. This is a hobby drone lawsuit. Rupprecht gets to send out emails and put his name out there.

Spot on. Even if they win, as Taylor did, Congress will just turn around in put language in legislation that authorizes FAA to do what they want under the rule (and probably throw in a little more).

And here we are again. Been a month and there's not been a post in any of the AMA threads. Did everyone lose interest or what?

Same old song and dance, there's really nothing new going on.

Mike

There are some positive things happening such as clubs going through the process to get approved for higher altitude limits. Of course just like MSM nothing positive is reported in this forum by the group that controls the forum. Others simply don’t bother to post anymore.

Really? I've heard of one or two getting higher altitudes for special events but nothing permanent. I've been staying away from RCU as the freaking ads are driving me crazy.

Mike

For some reason the AMA and clubs have been quiet on getting higher altitudes approved by the FAA. I can only speculate on the reasons why so I won’t bother going there. Late last year in this forum I had said that the CVRC soaring club in Visalia California was going through the process to get approved for a permanent 2,000’ altitude limit and that they had put all events on hold until that approval was finalized. If you look on their events calendar today, you will find that they have resumed hosting events.


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Plenty of clubs requesting and getting permanent waivers for higher altitudes, in fact, I'm not aware of any that have gone through the SRM process that have been denied.

I have no issues getting our waiver to fly High Powered Rockets to 15,000 ft at our flying field renewed every two years with the FAA. As matter of fact they are more than accommodating every time I deal with them for launch NOTAMS and commencing and ceasing operation. Maybe the AMA needs to get with NAR and Tripoli on how to get things done. Last I heard they still were having issues identifying where fields were located in anticipating helping clubs get FRIA waivers.
Mike

Sorry Mike but I’m not going there with you. Originally you asked about permanent increased altitudes and I provided a fairly decent example. You then proceed onto another perceived fault with the AMA. I’m not jumping into the same *** for tat conversations you guys seem to enjoy. Good day.

Wow. Make a suggestion and you get in a huff. Were did I bash the AMA? That calendar while nice doesn't provide any information on the topic.

Mike

"Plenty" and "permanent" ............I'd like to contact those clubs for more info. Do you have any more info? I have ad blocker but this forum has gotten worse.
Mike

DAMM, that was quick. Maybe I should have left things well enough alone.

LOL. Never fails. I'll check back in 6 months or so.

Mike

Feel free to reach out to your VP in Texas, Lawrence Harville, he may be able to assist

Every time I've been offered the ol "teat for tat", , , my immediate answer has always been to blurt out an instant "!!!!TAT!!!!", , , , hasn't worked yet, darn it ......

How many?

Astro

Actually, you didn't provide anything that that shows any compelling evidence of a club receiving a permanent altitude exemption.

There seems to be an awful lot of secrecy surrounding all of these supposed exemptions. I would think that the AMA and every club that has received one would want to publicize it and help other clubs to achieve the same. I'm curious as to your speculation regarding the hush-hush nature of these supposed exemptions. BH has stated a couple of times that, "plenty" of exemptions have been granted, but has yet to cite ANY examples. I find that extremely odd.

Astro

Without a long-term model aircraft hobby an altitude exemption doesn't mean much.

How about turning the question around. How many of the clubs that you guys belong too have applied for an exemption and been refused? The next question would be what was the reason given for the refusal?

I'll give that a shot.

Mike

Agreed.

Mike

Typical that you would fail to see how odd it is that a couple members post here numerous times that plenty of clubs have been granted exemptions, yet not one shred of proof and try and turn it around on the one who is asking simple questions.

How about this; None of the clubs I belong to have applied, so I am here, where an AMA rep and others have posted numerous times that "plenty" of clubs have been, and are being granted exemptions.

How about this; BH and Speed could simply answer the question that was posed and supply evidence of the claims that they have made here.

Can you think of any reason that exemptions that have been granted are being kept under a veil of secrecy?

Astro

I wouldn’t say secrecy. Like the soaring club I referenced. I received an email from my soaring club president here in Oregon forwarding an email from the CVRC club letting us know that until further notice CVRC was suspending all events until their altitude request had been processed. The email made mention of 2,000’ altitude limit. The email was sent out as a courtesy by the CVRC president to clubs that had people attending events at CVRC. Now that they have events posted on the calendar for 2022, it would appear the higher altitude was approved. Not really secrecy but more along the lines of need to know. Astro states that the clubs that were granted higher altitudes should publicize this information. Through what means? Should AMA send out an email to every member every time a club is granted a higher altitude? Does that seem reasonable? Suppose that happens, how many here in this forum aren’t members? IMO each club that is granted a higher altitude only has a responsibility to notify their members and those who come to their club for events.